Yes, he was a traitor, straight up, without question.

Know your BFEE: A Crimeline of Treason

http://www.democraticunderground.com/discuss/duboard.php?az=show_topic&forum=104&topic_id=2748315


JFK Lone Nut Debunker John McAdams, of TIME and Marquette U fame, keeps a copy on hand for his readers:

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/blog/DU_Bush.htm

I am always amazed how righty will accept treason and assorted crimes as long as the person has an R after their names.

Here's what we were talking about on DU in 2005:

Know your BFEE: The Secret Government

And 2008:

Know your BFEE: War and Oil are just two longtime Main Lines of Business

So. How come it's the capitol instead of capital? Money.

Since the Safari Club, the place has served as Cash Cow for Capitalism's Invisible Army.

to win.

and blame Reagan and the Reagan democrats for the rise of the GOP and the poisoned political environment.

Those Reagan democrats were mostly the silent generation, not mostly the boomers.
But the one thing that Reagan and the current political parties can always count on...is the willingness of American's to turn on other americans.

Without that horrid national trait, we might be more progressive.
But no, the middle class non-labor union turns of the middle class labor union..
and the middle class pretty much everyone turns on the lower class

And very occasionally the moneyed class gets a little tiny bit of shit on it.
But not to worry, the average american is more than willing to pound on the other average american's to such a great degree that the moneyed need only throw another piece of meat in the ring...

amazing how easy it is for the rich to sit back and watch everyone else tear themselves apart.

TRANSGENDERS IN BATHROOMS!

you can always count on us for 'divided we fall'

Nixon did the same with Vietnam. That has more traction than St Reagan's shenanigans.

Not sure either story will ever be seen on our various corporate mainstream media outlets.

Nixon sabotaged the Paris talks so there wouldn't be peace in November 1968.

the man was sickening

I think this version from PolitiFact rings more true:

According to Gary Sick, a Columbia University professor and the author of October Surprise: America's Hostages in Iran and the Election of Ronald Reagan. The agreement that led to the release involved $11 billion to $12 billion in Iranian assets that Carter had frozen 10 days after the seizure of the U.S. embassy. Sick told us that the Iranians feared having to start negotiations over with a new administration and believed that they had extracted most of the benefits from holding the hostages.

There are much better documented scandals from his time as president - stick to them .

He still publishes thoughtful analysis online under his own blog.
Also - his son is an awesome violinist - Geoffrey Castle.

over politifact
https://consortiumnews.com/the-new-october-surprise-series/

politifact not close to perfect, not bad but not the end all

also has an article with concerning Carter's view and his discussion with Gary Sick
https://consortiumnews.com/2011/05/12/jimmy-carters-october-surprise-doubts/

There are multiple sources that confirm what St. Ronnie Raygun's handlers did to insure he would be perceived as the saviour of the hostages. He was a simulacrum, and a pathetic one at that.

Had they made a deal with the old administration before the new administration was sworn in ... then that would make sense. But since they purposefully waited for the new administration....

But wishful thinking kicks in, especially among our Republican friends for whom St. Ronzo could do no wrong.

We'll probably never know for sure.

You think anyone paid attention.
The national "media"?
Hell no.
To them it was just a happy coincidence.
That's when I finally realized that they were in the tank for "ACCESS!"
bastids

I have been very vocal about this since the 80's. Most people aren't aware of this FACT, and those that are, keep their mouths shut. When arguing with Reagan fans, once you explain that their idol was, quite simply, a traitor, they are lost for words. As I'm sure you know, there were also other impeachable offense.

He's the best the GOP has. Sorry. Plus MSM isn't ever going to breath a word of it.

He needed to win. Because he just did. Because Republicans need to win. So they have power. So they can do Republican things. Because they're better. It's fair because Republican things are better. See?

Seriously, I've heard that.

Ronald Reagan was the Worst President Ever, until GWB. But he needed to win. Because.

Conservative Means Criminal.

They gin themselves up BOTH to think they are completely righteous AND that the liberal boogyman is the spawn of satan, so any means is completely righteous toward republicans winning elections.

And according to my HusbAnd, who was a gerontologist, showed early Signs of dementia early in his Presidency.

Same thing, different decade.

The Lyndon Johnson tapes

Criminals.

I wanna scream. Even back in the day, the cat was out of the bag for anyone that bothered to read. It was no scret that Reagan made arrangements with the Iranians to keep the hostages from being released until after the election to embarrass President Carter and swing the election.

……story at the time through out the progressive media. The delay of the hostages was absolutely engineered to help Reagan win the election.

Not that Carter was all that "pure". He should not ever have allowed the Shah into the country. But I suppose after the CIA coup in Iran that put the Shah into power, ousting the democratically elected president, and creating great suffering of the Iranian people and their decades long enmity—perhaps Carter felt he had no choice. But he was a weak leader, and a better post-President than President.

A tawdry tragedy from beginning to end. And I think Cheney and Rumsfield were again in the deep background—plotting for oil.

Thom Hartmann has done an entire segment on this hostage timing. Perhaps it's on the "interwebs".

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/04/15/world/new-reports-say-1980-reagan-campaign-tried-to-delay-hostage-release.html#h[]

New Reports Say 1980 Reagan Campaign Tried to Delay Hostage Release
By NEIL A. LEWIS,
Published: April 15, 1991


¶ WASHINGTON, April 14— Persistent but unproven accusations that Ronald Reagan's 1980 presidential campaign negotiated a secret deal with Iran to prevent the release of American hostages until after the election are being revived this week with fresh accounts of meetings between campaign officials and an Iranian cleric.

¶ One of the accounts is provided by Gary Sick, a Middle East specialist who helped handle the Iranian hostage crisis as a member of the White House staff in the Carter Administration. Mr. Sick, in an article published Monday on the Op-Ed page of The New York Times, says he has heard what he considers to be reliable reports that a secret deal involving the hostages was begun during two meetings between William J. Casey and the Iranian cleric in a Madrid hotel in July 1980.

¶ The allegation that there were meetings between Mr. Casey, Mr. Reagan's campaign chairman, who went on be the Director of Central Intelligence, and Hojatolislam Mehdi Karrubi, a representative of Ayatollah Ruhollah Khomeini, has been reported for the first time by Mr. Sick. Research for a Book

¶ He says in his article that the accounts of the meetings in Madrid are part of an accumulation of information he has developed in research for a book. He says it has led him to conclude, despite earlier doubts, that some kind of discussions took place between the Reagan campaign and Iran.

¶ "The story is tangled and murky, and it may never be fully unraveled," Mr. Sick writes.

more at link

http://www.nytimes.com/1991/04/15/world/new-reports-say-1980-reagan-campaign-tried-to-delay-hostage-release.html#h[]

It was obvious to me.

LOL what are the odds of both a president and vice president from the same corrupt administration both leaving office early in disgrace? I guess they have done a pretty good job of making people forget Agnew but all the boxes of 20 mule team Borax in the world can't whitewash Ronnie's filthy legacy.

They sell it as keeping the bad guys out of power while the real intent is to help multi-national corporations gain access to local, valuable resources. Hopefully the TPP will make it all above board and then we can freely steal from one another.

No shit sherlock!

Ronee was, well, a real turd.If I stepped on Ronnie, I would have to clean my shoes off, befpre I came in the house or even the barn.

as a californio, I am much chagrined by RR.

Yeah....

Funny tho' how they didn't mention any connections or timing issues when they blipped over it in CNN's "The Eighties". But they did cover the Iran Contra thing pretty well in the next episode, speculating about his involvement but still keeping Reagan sorta distant.

Anyway, they may come back to it later.... but it is CNN....

So Many People Forget That The First Country The Nazis Invaded Was Their Own.

n/t

Then Casey had a very timely incapacitation/death.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/101663280#post6

Hopefully the above details are true, I just found them using Google. It has long been established, though that the secret meetings you refer to did take place. I've heard rebuttal about GHWB's actual presense, but I did a ton of reading on this in the 80's and was convinced he was there, as well as Casey.

The details of Casey's incapacitation and eventual death from the above excerpt are what I am less certain of, they were certainly suspicious and remarkably coincident to his scheduled testimony to the House Select Committee on Intelligence.

.... missing and or different time cards for the 2 or 3 days that HW was supposed have met w/the
Iranians in Paris.

But please let's impeach Bill Clinton for a blow job and spend 6.7 million dollars to look into
HRC's emails.

It was 30 years ago, so I'd have to go research it all over again, but this did go down, whatever the precise details.

told him, with little or no independent action or thought on his own.

He played a role, made speeches and said what he was told to say. The opening statement says it all; 'the advance team'. Bush regime, every single one of them.

the "Think Tanks" started laying out all the Oligarchs plans on how to subvert and destroy our Democracy. They did a pretty good job. Even Jimmy Carter said the US is an Oligarchy today.

Former President Jimmy Carter had some harsh words to say about the current state of America's electoral process, calling the country "an oligarchy with unlimited political bribery" resulting in "nominations for president or to elect the president."

in the 70's. Deregulation, change laws for business, elevate MIC, Media consolidation and ownership rules relaxation, cancel Carters plans of energy independence, repeal and sabotage any and all liberal initiatives built int he last 40 years, etc. The general rape+pillage the Republicans and RW Oligarchs have been doing actually started as hard plans under Ronnie Raygun.

May he rot in hell.

The October Surprise X-Files

http://www.consortiumnews.com/archive/xfile.html

It's got all the latest, and I do mean latest.