Don't tell anyone.

Universe is 13.78 billion years old, give or take. Most of what we can see is hydrogen. Very, very, very, very, very...(X 24)... little of what is known is alive and even less of that, human. And we get to be some of that, that can think?

Nice.

And for that I say nonsense!

Still extremely unlikely, but not a zero percent chance.

did none of you read Douglas Adams?

I have my reasons for why I feel the way I do about "life, the universe and everything."

There's really no argument against that.

... I believe it was called, "Shit's Really Complicated, So God". Pretty sure the corresponding author is up for a Nobel Prize this year, and probably every year thereafter. Big find.

Thanks for sharing!

You'll have to excuse my schadenfreude. It's just so refreshing to see a poster who so routinely chides others to wake up and start thinking unironically belching out the vapid apologetics typical of young earth creationists.

Doesn't mean anyone need to respect that belief, especially when said belief is absurd on its face.

But whatever helps them sleep I guess.

It's called Sonoluminescence.

Nobody has seen it, nobody can show there is one, and there's no reason to think there might be one, so safe to assume there isn't.

Sperm chasing eggs!

Do you want to take the blue pill or the red pill, Neo?

Zinc IS divine.... on a Scrabble board.

Don't ask me for the pronunciation, let alone the definition. However, it IS the definitive winning Scrabble word (if one can get it past peer review).

Please forgive any false assumptions about Scrabble - I'm a Words With Friends peasant.

I hear religious people say that you can't be awe-stricken without a God. Life has and continues to humble me. This is one such example. There is beauty in life everywhere!

I wish we'd known this long ago when we were trying to conceive, and I hope that many young people will lie and wonder if the bright spark of an astonishing miracle will occur.

Thank you, Packman.

Yesterday as I was helping our elderly cat up into my chair, I was newly struck by what an amazing miracle his very being was. He won't be around much longer, but for now he is a miracle of creation. He saw me looking at him, marveling at his dainty profile and glowing eyes, and mirted at me in greeting as he settled onto his favorite heating pad, another yet miracle of life -- my somewhat too comfy lap.

You have a nice day.

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And your attempt, as a Southerner, to pretend it doesn't mean anything but snide condescension, again says more about you than anything else.

You have a nice day now, ya hear?

You're not fooling anyone.

You mean bless chemistry's heart.

That would explain a lot

the "spark" is actually due to a fluorescent marker--added to the system--that shows a spike in zinc.

A more accurate statement would be that the more zinc that is released upon conception, the higher the liklihood of viability.

The spark is artificial and is only something useful to researchers to visualize the zinc release.

(sorry!)

http://www.nature.com/articles/srep24737

I've already posted the text of your message and the link to the actual study in response to someone posting the 'spark of life' stuff to FB.

Thank you for the logical response.

Because it's already spreading to hyper-religious blogs & sites. Sample:
http://www.crosswalk.com/blogs/jason-soroski/the-light-of-life.html
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Upon reading the study and watching the video, I couldn’t help but to consider just how Biblical this is. Throughout Scripture light is equated with life and all that is of God. It only makes sense that the moment of conception, the very moment when we and all who have ever lived are endowed with life, would be marked by a flash of light.
<snip>

It is just very simply the truth, the actual facts of the matter.

I mean, this isn't something that is open for discussion or interpretation, you know (yes, I know you know).

Astonishing really. No wonder the world is in the mess it is.

But are you sure it was gleam or beam???

we are golden

We are all universal light.

It's already on display here and there in this thread.

That's the best part right there.

Like watching someone walk into a head-level 2x4, as the first person who walked into it is still standing there rubbing their head.

Already spreading to hyper-religious blogs & sites. Sample:
http://www.crosswalk.com/blogs/jason-soroski/the-light-of-life.html
<snip>
Upon reading the study and watching the video, I couldn’t help but to consider just how Biblical this is. Throughout Scripture light is equated with life and all that is of God. It only makes sense that the moment of conception, the very moment when we and all who have ever lived are endowed with life, would be marked by a flash of light.
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Another cudgel to use against women.

is a sin and murder and yadda yadda etc.

I like the symmetry discoveries like this provide; a glimpse into the workings of life, the universe, and everything

...for so many reasons.

As for the grumpy-pants reactions: Do you ever read poetry? Mythology? Do you understand or enjoy anything of the sort?

Have you read the essays of the great naturalists (scientists) -- such as Loren Eiseley? Watched Carl Sagan or Neil de Grasse Tyson?

And since I read it, I know there is NO FUCKING FLASH OF LIGHT IN NATURE DURING CONCEPTION; IT WAS INDUCED BY THE RESEARCHERS BY ADDING DYES THAT FLUORESCE IN THE PRESENCE OF ZINC.


This fuzzy-wuzzy shit you're appealing to is why WE CAN'T HAVE NICE THINGS

I think even more simplistic explanation may be necessary:

Since researchers cannot actually "see" zinc with the naked eye, they must use a chemical intermediary that produces something that they can see, to wit, light, when the zinc levels rise in the reaction chamber (or cell, or whatever).

Or, maybe it is just magic. :sigh:

But yeah. Spot on.

Sorry, pervo, but DU rules forbid posting explicitly pornographic pictures in this forum.

I am requesting this whole thread get moved to the Lounge immediately.

flash of light - in a lab test. That proves... Sorry, the "hard" sciences were never my strong subjects.

tests.

The lab test didn't even fertilize the egg. It 'tricked' the egg into thinking it had been penetrated by a sperm. That's all. The egg wasn't fertilized. It was given the chemical marker that suggests conception has occurred, and it was surrounded by a dye that reacts to zinc.

The egg, when it decides it has been fertilized, dumps zinc and takes up calcium. How strong that reaction is, is a strong indicator of how healthy the egg is, and how likely it will implant for IVF. that's all.

The flash is entirely due to the fluorescent dye. Nor is it a flash, it glows for hours.

Moreover, this has only been done with mice, not humans.


The ONLY thing this study tells us, the only thing it was looking for, is a less-invasive way of determining the most likely/best performing egg out of a series of eggs intended for artificial implantation for people who are having fertility issues.

It doesn't tell us anything else. (Except, maybe, how biased and full of shit the media is.)

I thought the thread title was the title of the article you linked to, and so let it go. But now I see that it is your personal editorialization.

Please post responsibly! That article does NOT say "We all start off as a flash of light."

Unless you want to suggest that "we all" started off as a lab experiment inside a petri dish with a fluoroscent chemical added to the process!

This thread and this topic is depressing as HELL because of how readily people accept pure disinformation as some sort of spiritual bullshit truth!