Your avatar is a beautiful tribute. Really lovely.

found it online last weekend when someone somewhere said that Prince's twitter avatar had been changed to that. It is an updated version of the latest album cover but the shades are removed and his eyes closed to represent his passing but with the 3rd eye open. I thought it was appropriate and I wanted to have others see it. I'll change it back to laser kitteh when I stop crying about Prince. Might be a while.

I find his tunes running through my head off and on throughout the day and night. Such a loss, I still haven't been able to quite wrap my brain around losing him.

I really think most of the guys who do this compartmentalize it the way they justify using violent gonzo pornography. "It's just representation." "It's my free speech." "It's just fantasy." "You're too sensitive." "I'm not that way in _real_ relationships."

The dirty truth of violent pornography that's become harder to ignore (with revenge porn, which is simply distributing sexually violating photographs of "good" women) is that these "bad" women are living breathing human beings to whom the violence is done while it's being filmed. They aren't some symbols just being re-arranged in somebody else's "free speech." The stuff that's said to women in porn is what's said by these assholes in the anonymity of the Internet. It reveals the political ideology of violent pornography, that all women are "sluts" whose only value is their sexual use by males. The text that goes along with Gonzo includes all of the woman-hating comments in online harassment, and it's said in part as an implied performance for other males, to imply a membership in a higher sexual caste of males that entitles its members to reduce females to nothing but sex.

Like road ragers in a car, these guys think they can actually participate in their women-hating porn fantasies with actual women via the Internet. It illustrates that in fact the ideology of violent porn does bleed over into life when these guys think they can get away with it.

I am so tired of this crap. It's one reason I want to see women take over all governments on the planet for the foreseeable future.

I also think our LGBT community suffers the same vicious sexual attacks every day. I see it in my news feed on FB. It's equally heartbreaking and anger inducing.

They've learned that women need to be 'taken down a notch' when they leave their perceived place. The sexist attacks are made to remind the victim that they are a woman, and that they should know their place in society.

People with low tolerance to change will often react violently when they perceive their norms to be violated, no matter how unreasonable they may be. You can easily decode the threats and insults - "You are a woman. I am a man, get back in your place!"

I'm a guy, so I'd be a liar if I said I never viewed porn, but I cannot stand the nasty violent stuff. Seriously, if you get off on that crap you need psychotherapy.

that crap out loud. The kind of man who writes such things is scum, but the guys in this video warm my heart.

I think the video is a good lesson in reminding us there are beautiful/loving/respectful men, and then there are the creeps.

I hope this video strengthens the beautiful/loving/respectful men, to speak out against the creeps. Even when those creeps are in their personal circle.

. . .done by the group who conceived and put the video together: Just Not Sports

http://justnotsports.com/

https://soundcloud.com/justnotsports/ep-26-online-harassment-w-julie-dicaro-andrea-hangst


Well worth the listen.

Laws are evolving re: internet abuse. However, I think only real change will come from men continuing to pressure men to knock-off the abusive shit.

Otherwise, a victim of stalking, domestic violence, or any other criminal situation that puts someone's life in danger would face higher risk of being victimized.

I agree in that online trolls and other bully-boy cowards ought to be doxed. Where's Anonymous when you need them?

Is it any better for men?

Pick any celebrity and I would bet you could find similar quotes.

but men who don't "get it" usually don't until someone they love gets hurt, that is if they ever do.

Why doesn't that surprise me.

You're excusing this behavior because there are men abusing everyone online equally, so it's okay? Surely, even the most misogynistic and homophobic among us know how much more horrible the abuse is for women and LGBT online.

Your post is a huge part of the problem.

I am pointing out the Internet can be a shitty place for anyone. It isn't news or unusual.

Nor is it a cause for martyrdom.

Pick any celebrity and you will find similar quotes how are these women different?

I guarantee bill orieley gets the same or worse daily. As does Bernie Sanders. There is absolutely nothing surprising about nasty stuff on the Internet.

Doesn't make it right it is just reality.

There's NO reason this abuse should be, "reality".

Your continued denial IS the problem.

People shouldn't kill each other but it happens daily after all the time we have been on the planet people still suck.

It isn't going to change any time soon.

You can cherry-pick death threats against any celebrity. It doesn't mean the treatment is equivalent. The difference is in the number, frequency, virulence and status of the victims. More or less any woman online who expresses an unpopular opinion on an unmoderated board can expect at least a death or rape threat at some point whether they are a celebrity or not. A number of women have been harassed out of entire industries by having their personal detail publicised, stolen naked pictures splashed all over the internet, etc.

Watch any "celebrities read mean tweets" compilation and you can see a qualitative difference between the types of comments made about men and the types made about women. Men get things like "He looks homeless", "He sucks", "He's ugly". Women get people threatening to track them down and rape them or expressing things they would like to do to them. The focus of the comments is not on putting them down, it is on putting them in their place as, in the video on this thread, the comment that the only thing women should do it suck cocks and cook. That's a comment putting down all women, not just the woman it is directed at.

Suggest you read the article below or any of the literally hundreds of other articles on this topic before continuing to explain to women what their experience online has been or how it fits into the larger context of online harassment:

http://time.com/3305466/male-female-harassment-online/

Hardly the same thing

Answer the question.

Not the same at all.

I don't dance at your beconing either try again.

I'm glad you live in a reality where you can disagree with people without them subjecting you to gendered slurs and threats of sexual violence. I just want women to have the same experience.

quotes indicating that the male be violently raped like the stud(?)/wimp(?) he is?

Then decide if it is said on line.


But it is clear this is a thread for people to be outraged so by all means cary on I am done kicking this.

You should be outraged about this treatment, as well ... not putting out some false equivalence claim.

It's okay to be outraged about something that happens to women/PoC/any other "others" ... without the caveat, "Well. It once happened to a man/white person/dominant culture member that I heard about."

It really is.

Points for consistency though. You came in belittling women's experiences and opinions and are going out in exactly the same way. Hope if you take nothing else away there's at least the hint of a spark of a suggestion of the insight that you and your false equivalence bullshit are part of the problem that this thread is about.

roughly equal online.

That is just a batshitily crazyily inaccurate thing to say. Women receive infinitely more crap just for having committed the crime of being born penisless. It's unbelievable how much scorn and insults men pile on women on the Internet and on gaming sites. A significant chunk of men are absolutely chronically furious with women and adamantly state that they are superior -- because they have a dick.

God knows sports would be way worse...This is a good campaign.

...get carried away I think, and it could be a overreaction for being called out and being overly defensive. People online get away with smack talk that they normally couldn't. Of the few times I was online and played games with text chat I don't recall too much hate, but on ones like the more recent Grand Theft I would get a bunch of smack talk calling me gay since I was a guy, and that is the default. When I owned it, said something along the lines of I am gay, and I love it, are you hitting on me, or do you need some advice...I found that it blew their minds that I was not affected. It seemed to destroy their power and they left or went quiet. Not sure what one could say as a woman to get around them. It would be a fun thing to do some research on the best anti-bully comeback for women dealing with this crap. It would be far better if it never happened, but just saying, it is fun to shoot down a online bully.

Oh but I just had the negative thought that my own actions of taking their power away may not be solving the issue, but making them bottle it up more since some people bully because they were bullied. Victims are far more important, but it still now I am feeling a bit bad for shooting down bullies.

are just young, stupid and don't know any better... I said a lot of things to women at 14-15 that I wouldn't have said at 19-20, even with a gun to my head... And there was no internet or social media back then, but I'd still say things knowing there would probably be some adverse consequences coming my way...

Yes, I've matured and grown wiser, but only god knows what I could have done if the internet was around then...

Man, it's hard to believe in 2016 we're still fighting this bullshit. My to all who are all in and willing to take a stand.

It's like they don't see them as people. They remind me of the Ferengi in Star Trek.