These things need to constantly present in the minds of policy makers. Vastly more important than keeping the flow of money into the corporate trough.

maybe humans aren't smart enough to 'own' this planet

...look what we are doing to the world. I think it is indeed too late and no one in power seems to care one wit.

i think that was the beginning of the end

300 tons of hot water entering the Pacific everyday for over 5 years now is changing the ocean temperatures, which in turn kills the oxygen levels which in turn kills the sea life...it is a separate threat from the actual radiation being released

like 70% of the planet's population feed themselves from the oceans

Those reactors would never produce enough heat to have an effect on the ocean's temperature

...thankfully for me I don't believe in God, Heaven or Hell...just a deep deep sleep of nothingness...so I welcome the coming rest. For others - I think it will be horribly fearful.

I hope the earth has the power to recover and that the other creatures that live here with us somehow adapt.

I think we are the last of our kind - thankfully.

These findings get essentially ignored in the E&E group.

I feel stomach-punched when I read articles confirming that we're killing most life on the planet.

...rather than pay any attention to this.

Industrial Revolution on has been self destructive in the extreme and still so many, apparently, don't see doom looming in our path.

I drive a Volt, but burn gas for heat, and some fuel.

The price of carbon sequestration should be included in the price of all carbon fuels.

Then we could move off them in a flash.

The only answer.

That and plant a trillion trees to soak up what we already burned.

Some suck.

Others will work tirelessly to fix this.

We're the result of millions of years of evolution. Sure, we can be stupid and are easily led - gullible as hell (witness the prevalence of beliefs in supernatural and superstitious bullshit) but we are also capable of incredibly great things.

Art

Music

Literature

Science

Medicine

Throwing it all away because we are "parasites" is foolish. We would be the only parasites capable of actually repairing our host.

'God' created us and then HE had to rest.. That we have 'dominion over the animals' and if we pray we'll get our own apartment in Heaven. Don't you think that's insane? Many of us give up our responsibility too easily and just say "it's fate" or "the Lord is in control"..

I would say that it is incorrect to say as you have that we are the result of "millions of years of evolution" since modern man has only been around for less than, what 300k years? More like 200k years actually..

Yes, we've created great things for US. Other living organisms? Not so much. Humans have been a very successful parasite so far. We are an infestation on the planet. Our own waste is killing us and other life-forms, how smart is that?

Yes, we're intelligent enough to believe that we are all 'that special' in the universe. It's too bad that we cold not stay humble.

I believe that our 'doom' if you will, was set when we learned to control fire.

Nature never did betray the heart that loved her. -William Wordsworth (7 Apr 1770-1850)

Fair enough and well said!

non-human animal, plant or organism that developed slave coffles, gallows and guillotines, mustard gas, DDT, genital mutilation, frontal brain lobotomy, land mines, nuclear bombs and financial fraud.

mouths!

Yes, I know, it's a human trait.. "God forgive me".

also referring to what Quantess said four posts earlier..

Got it! My bad....

Is that your excuse for multiplying your offspring onto the planet? Ooh we need more of these smart humans! I fuckimg wish it were this simple in realty!

"Multiplying your offspring"??!?!?!

I have no children, and your tone with me, several days now after our last exchange on this thread, frankly sucks!

How do you go through life hating people so much?

And humans won't be extinct within a 100 years. We've survived an ice age or two. We aren't going anywhere.

Yes I do, mostly, despise humanity. We are disgusting creatures, more destructive to the planet than cockroaches or bedbugs or even those horrible mosquitoes transmitting the Zika virus.

No point in reproducing, when the climate is so fucked.

But other members of my family did and I love them all. I would prefer humanity did it's best to repair the damage we have done so that my nieces and nephews have a planet they can live on instead of saying "Fuck it! Let's all just bugger off!"


Humans can do it. An international effort to curb the loss of the Ozone layer was largely successful by eliminating the propellants and other gasses primarily responsible.

We can do the same with this present difficulty.

We have wounded Mother Earth, without question. But all we have to do is stop poking the wound and she'll heal herself in short order.

Of this I have no doubts.

in short order."

Not so sure greed will allow that to happen before it's too late if it isn't already.

The next mass extinction will likely be our species' fault.

the people are f*cked

All products ever made are symbols of oppression. Therefore, we should buy nothing and live in caves and eat plants even though they don't like to be eaten and not talk to each other because all oppression begins when two people communicate. We will then be pure and world peace will arrive.

Long live the revolution! Long live ideological purity. Long live those who refuse to sell out. We shall inherit the dirt of the earth and revert back to apes.

Oh, excuse me, "revert" is a politically incorrect term, an example of specie-ism gone amok. Hopefully, the apes will eat us and put an end to the human race which has done nothing but cause trouble.

Long live mass suicide! Long live the absolutely unfettered and pure liberalism that recognizes that life itself is an act of oppression since no creature can survive without eating another and freedom will not reign until the earth is a cold lifeless rock floating aimlessly through space.

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of the planet by 2040. The sea coasts are the most populated areas of nearly every continent.

We have probed the earth, excavated it, burned it, ripped things from it, buried things in it, chopped down its forests, leveled its hills, muddied its waters, and dirtied its air. That does not fit my definition of a good tenant. If we were here on a month-to-month basis, we would have been evicted long ago. -Rose Bird, Chief Justice of California Supreme Court (2 Nov 1936-1999)


I think the environment should be put in the category of our national security. Defense of our resources is just as important as defense abroad. Otherwise what is there to defend? -Robert Redford, actor, director, producer, and environmentalist (b. 1936)


Anthropocene, noun: The geological period marked by a significant human impact on climate and the environment.
... Anthropocene is sure to be a short period of the planet's history.

Human beings are our own worst enemy

Think of the time we lost because of Bush-Cheney being forced onto this nation by the Supreme Court and over the rightful winner in 2000 - Al Gore.

CO2 levels on earth have been much higher in the past and all life in the oceans didn't just die. It will be bad, but it's not like the apocalyptic scenario some are making it out to be. I believe in Anthropomorphic climate change, but people blowing everything out of proportion doesn't really help matters.

There is believed to be a link between CO2 levels and mass extinction events

http://thinkprogress.org/climate/2015/04/13/3646211/boom-youre-dead/

So much for carbon dioxide being a “harmless” gas.

The worst mass extinction in Earth’s history may have been caused by huge amounts of carbon dioxide that accumulated in the atmosphere and the ocean after colossal volcanic eruptions in Siberia 252 million years ago, according to a new study.

In addition to coating ancient Siberia with thick lava, the famed eruptions also released massive amounts of carbon dioxide into the atmosphere, which the study says may have turned the oceans sharply acidic. That acidity is thought to have driven a “global environmental calamity” that killed 90 percent of Earth’s species — also known as the “Great Dying” between the Permian and Triassic periods.

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I find that it's a juggling act between established scientists conducting peer-reviewed work and anonymous Internet posters, with the truth lying in between.

/s

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Permian in particular comes to mind.

without the ability to piggyback the sports teams of these 90 universities, 268 limbaugh stations, which do global warming denial all over the country and elect republicans, would probbaly fold or change programming. the entire rw radio monopoly and the republicans most important media advantage would fall apart, giving dems supermajorities to do something.

Lovely, just lovely

We need to pay attention - right now, not 50 years from now - to what is happening on the planet we have conquered and are supposed to be protecting. Marine life can't tell us why depleted oxygen levels threaten them. Only we, the human species, have the ability to understand the threat – and do something about it.

The Planet we have conquered. That's what we do. We take it over, build it, destroy it, conquer it. We have never made plans to care for it. People truly are a virus on this planet. Sadly we will take so many other lifeforms out while we destroy ourselves.

We're quickly reaching the tipping point and we just decide on what we leave in the time capsules instead.