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Genghis_Sean

(39 posts)
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:42 PM Apr 2016

Thinking of dumping my longtime bank. Where should I go?

I've banked at Chase for many years. They're competent for the most part, but they've screwed me or attempted to do so one too many times. Is it not true that it's better for our country's citizenry if more people used credit unions? I'd welcome a person with some expert knowledge on the subject to advise me.

Here's the deal: I'm an 8th grade English teacher in Indiana married to another 8th grade English teacher in Indiana. We have one child and we've been struggling to get out of debt for a while. Some years ago, I bounced a few checks and Chase charged me a bunch of fees for each one. I went in and talked to someone and they waived the fee this one time. Years later, it happened again, and this time they refused. I don't object to them charging me a fee, but $20/check is ridiculous, particularly when the money is back in the account within 24 hours. I think I went over six times for a total of like $60. Nevertheless, I was charged $120 in fines for those six checks.

I asked what kind of overdraft protection they could provide for me, and they got me a Disney credit card that would draw $50 or whatever amount I was over whenever I bounced a check for a fee of $10. This provided me with some kind of protection.

Then Obama came along and revamped some of the banking laws so that they could no longer charge me these huge fees when I went over. So, Chase starts trying to get me to sign up for a plan to get money if I overdrew, but would charge a fee. Basically, as far as I could tell, they wanted to trick me into permitting them to fine me again. I said no thanks.

Yesterday, I deposited a check and they told me they needed to talk to me. They are now no longer permitting customers to use a credit card as overdraft protection. Instead, they have to use a savings account holding at least $300. Clearly, they want more fine money from me.

I'm considering switching to a local credit union, but how do I determine whether or not a bank is a subsidiary of a bank like Chase or not? Would this actually make any difference? I'd welcome someone's expertise on the matter.

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Thinking of dumping my longtime bank. Where should I go? (Original Post) Genghis_Sean Apr 2016 OP
Find a credit union! Fresh_Start Apr 2016 #1
Agreed. Local credit union. n/t FSogol Apr 2016 #2
I agree. Credit Unions are the way to go. yellowcanine Apr 2016 #3
Credit Unions are better. KPN Apr 2016 #9
I left Washington Mutual and Chase... northernsouthern Apr 2016 #4
Credit union. Blue_In_AK Apr 2016 #5
Credit Union Uben Apr 2016 #6
I have been a credit union member almost all of my working life. djean111 Apr 2016 #7
CREDIT UNION. They're great. Find a good one. Ask around, do the google. MADem Apr 2016 #8
Credit union Dyedinthewoolliberal Apr 2016 #10
Credit unions are good but they will still charge you a fee for bouncing checks. leftofcool Apr 2016 #11
Credit union n/t LiberalEsto Apr 2016 #12
Look at Fidelity NashuaDW Apr 2016 #13
I've done all my banking through credit unions for ... GeorgeGist Apr 2016 #14
A Credit Union IS the way to go! NWProf Apr 2016 #15
Local Credit Union Hekate Apr 2016 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author cyberpj Apr 2016 #17
So credit unions won't charge for overdrafts? whatthehey Apr 2016 #18
the solution is obvious nt msongs Apr 2016 #19
Credit Union. sense Apr 2016 #20
I don't have a good answer for you. But your name is awesome. nt Guy Whitey Corngood Apr 2016 #21
Near unanimous, Credit Union for the win... Wounded Bear Apr 2016 #22
I no local credit union or small bank- I have nothing but good to say about USBank. we can do it Apr 2016 #23

KPN

(15,645 posts)
9. Credit Unions are better.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:52 PM
Apr 2016

The only affiliation mine has with with another big finance is via the VISA debit and credit cards they offer their members. I don't use the credit card -- not sure what bank its affiliated with if any, but the Debit Card is in the Credit Union's name, not a Wall Street bank.

Don't think you'll get away from fees for overdrafts anywhere however.

 

northernsouthern

(1,511 posts)
4. I left Washington Mutual and Chase...
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:47 PM
Apr 2016

Opened a credit union. It can be harder going in to locations depending on where you are, but they have way more forgiving and they have been better on loans. F@cking WaMu refused to give me a loan, got one from the credit union after I was laid off during the recession because I was good with my credit...and WaMu went under for making bad loans??? If they did not loan to me, and I never miss a payment, then who the f@ck where they lending too?

So I would look in to credit unions a bit more. As a teacher you should have an auto in for many of them, and I also understand they are far better for our country.

Uben

(7,719 posts)
6. Credit Union
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:50 PM
Apr 2016

I've been using one as my bank ever since it became possible. To date, no problems whatsoever. My CU became like a bank around 1990, I think, not really sure. It's a small town CU, locally operated, and has been since the fifties. I'm through with the big banks. They really have nothing to offer me to make them a viable choice.

 

djean111

(14,255 posts)
7. I have been a credit union member almost all of my working life.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:51 PM
Apr 2016

I recommend credit unions over banks. And credit unions are not bank subsidiaries.

$20 a check for overdrafts is actually less than many places. My credit union charges $35, but will waive if the overage is not my fault. I am always hyper-aware of how much money, to the penny, I have. Since I am over 65, I pay no other fees, and get a tiny little dividend once in a while. I have not written a check for years, I pay everything online - mortgage, utilities - and I NEVER have anything automatically deducted. You never know if you can depend on the money being there.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
8. CREDIT UNION. They're great. Find a good one. Ask around, do the google.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 02:51 PM
Apr 2016

I belong to a military one, and have for decades. Wouldn't ever switch--great service.

Some members of my family are members at Digital Federal Credit Union--they are pleased with it.

NashuaDW

(90 posts)
13. Look at Fidelity
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 03:15 PM
Apr 2016

Free bill pay
Excellent website
Comes with an ATM and no ATM fees ever
They reimburse all ATM fees the next day
Deposit checks using the app and snapping a pic ... In the account the next day
No bounced check fees
Little bit of interest on balance
I've had them for many years- very pleased

GeorgeGist

(25,321 posts)
14. I've done all my banking through credit unions for ...
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 03:26 PM
Apr 2016

nearly 30 years. Never had a problem or unpleasant experience.

NWProf

(51 posts)
15. A Credit Union IS the way to go!
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 03:28 PM
Apr 2016

Out here in the great Northwest, specifically the Seattle–Tacoma area, Credit unions are the way to go. I am a member of the Boeing Employees Credit Union. Because they are a state credit union, I do not have to actually work for Boeing. I am a retired teacher. Our state teachers' credit union did not have many of the services that the BECU did when we joined.

Now I am not sure what your state has, so I can only give you some generic recommendations.

Your best bet is to see if you have a state chartered teachers' credit union. Hopefully they have a branch in your area. But, if they do not, then where ever they are located, call and physically talk to an employee to see if your local ATMs will accept their debit cards free of cash machine charges.

As with all things, you do have to do your homework. If there is no teachers' credit union, look at the various credit unions in your area and see if they will take members of the community. If they do, then tell them you would like to open a checking, savings, and credit card account. Ask them what protections they provide in case you accidentally overdraw. For example, when we joined, the Boeing Employees Credit Union offered three possible protections were we to bounce a check. They first took funds from our savings account. If that was too low then they withdrew cash from an emergency account we set up, and finally, if that was maxed out, our credit card was the last resort. The previous 3 options come with a fee. But BECU also gives you a grace period of one business day to put the funds in yourself with no fee attached. I check online daily.

See if there is a fee for any of the "banking" services they provide. Checking should always be free. Ideally you should always get an interest deposit on any funds that reside in your checking or savings accounts.

Corporate banks started to make the middle class pay through the nose with ever increasing fees since Reagan was in power. Credit Unions are our way to fight back. We, as members, own them. I hope this helps.

Response to Genghis_Sean (Original post)

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
18. So credit unions won't charge for overdrafts?
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 03:32 PM
Apr 2016

Personally I use a bank that pays 2.5% interest in checking and refunds all ATM fees, even though I live hundreds of miles away. I have no idea what they charge for overdrafts - will never be an issue.

Wounded Bear

(58,656 posts)
22. Near unanimous, Credit Union for the win...
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 04:59 PM
Apr 2016

especially a local or perhaps state wide one. I dumped big banks years before the movement told us to.

Hell, you're teachers association my help with that, maybe they have one of their own. Credit Unions are about membership, and their banking regs and methods tend to be more conservative and conventional, with none of the hedge fund crap and BS high risk investments.

And their loans are generally simple interest loans with minimal shenanigans.

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