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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsJust watched HBO's "Confirmation", a movie based on the Hill-Thomas hearings
It really is shocking, if the details portrayed in the film are true, that Joe Biden didn't do more to support Anita Hill--I'm not at all surprised by the portrayal of Republicans but much more how little the Democrats wanted to do with it. Anyway, it seemed, Biden failed to make sure the corroborating witness actually got to testify, allowing Thomas' hard-core porn rentals onto the record, and how he kinda had to be pushed to look into the matter at all. It was also shocking that Kennedy sat through most of the hearing without a word because of his own issues of a sexual nature over the past summer.
The good thing that came from it was the rise in women running, and winning, seats in the Federal government.
Anyway, decent film, if you can catch it.
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt4608402/
Manifestor_of_Light
(21,046 posts)The movie showed one lady that went to DC and wasn't allowed to testify.
JHB
(37,160 posts)...so you can compare how it holds up compared to the film.:
...NOT because he was the most qualified jurist. He wasn't.
...NOT because he was the most qualified black jurist. He wasn't.
...NOT because he was the most qualified black conservative jurist. He wasn't.
He was the most qualified black conservative with reliable but obfuscatable views on abortion & other subjects, and was young enough that he'd stay on the court for decades.
The Democratic senators were initially ready to give him a pass, since 1) they didn't look forward to another SC nomination battle, and 2) initially the black community was receptive to Thomas -- not enthusiastic, but not inclined to oppose -- and a fight against him wouldn't be well received.
At the time I thought Thomas should have been voted down just because of his lackluster record and ignoring conflict of interest (Thomas failed to recuse himself in a case involving the Ralston Purina company, where his political mentor Sen. John Danforth owned millions in stock and had brothers on the board of directors. Thomas' decision in favor of Purina directly benefitted his pals).
Black opinion didn't shift until later in the process, after Thurgood Marshall made his "a black snake is still a snake" comment. The senators were finally forced to take a harder line when the harassment charges leaked out, and giving Thomas a pass would piss off another Democratic constituency: women fighting workplace harassment.
But all that happened too late: by that point conservatives were ginned up in support and the rest of the establishment didn't want another highly-visible fight, so the Thomas hearings were kept to a he-said-she-said with Anita Hill (Angela Wright was shunted off to the side), giving the senators their excuse to just put it behind them.
So here we are, a quarter-century later, and he's still a lackluster jurist who ignores conflicts of interest, and is a reliable conservative operative in the courts.
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10024571481#post47
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,182 posts)Although not nearly as bad as John Danforth or Alan Simpson, who were just disgusting pigs.
I think Biden's problem is that he's got a very congenial type of personality and it sometimes inhibits his ability to get tough when things need to get tough (It came out again during Alberto Gonzalez's confirmation hearings). Biden's a "slap the guy on the back, atta boy" type of person and I think if he laid into Thomas harder (as he should have....it's probably the guy's weakest moment in an otherwise distinguished and laudable political career) he'd be cast as the bad guy and I don't think he was mentally prepared for that. Plus, I think he may have still be subliminally reeling from the plagiarism incident a few years back, and if somehow Hill was completely discredited and he had strongly vouched for him, it would pretty much make him look like the town liar and his reputation would be finished.
So yeah, I think there was a lot of cowardice on Biden's part but there was a certain context behind it. As I said, it was probably Biden's lowest point in his otherwise distinguished career.
Interesting that Thomas in the movie was treated at the very least neutrally and arguably slightly sympathetically, even as it also treated Hill sympathetically.
brush
(53,778 posts)Punkingal
(9,522 posts)I had forgotten about the other witness. That was such a cluster fuck. It reminded me once again how dirty the Bushes are willing to play, how the democrats were weak and ineffectual, and what a nice lady Anita Hill was. Thomas won with the "high-tech lynching" speech. It pissed me off at Joe all over again. At least Teddy finally spoke up and told the Repubs to shut up with some of their outrageous talk.
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)was a brilliant move--strategically anyway. Though it was also disgusting to watch in the way that watching good strategy at the expense of a whole people is disgusting.
I think, initially when all this happened I was 20ish and not real tuned into it but last year I saw the Anita Hill documentary and got really pissed off. Then I watched this today and was shocked at how even-handedly they treated Thomas in the movie and got pissed all over again.
Punkingal
(9,522 posts)I watched those hearings and I never doubted her. She was a well-brought up unsophisticated woman. No way she could have made up his crude remarks. And his character has certainly become clear over the years, zero integrity.