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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIt's Obama's fault! It's the DNC's fault! It's Koch Bros. fault!
It's the stars, the moon, and the sun's fault! Anyone's fault but where the fault really lies: In the hearts and hands of Wisconsin voters.
In the end, Wisconsin went to the polls and voted how they wanted to vote. They decided the recall decidedly and definitively.
You have causes you are going to vote for. No 30 second ad is going to make you vote for Romney in November. No amount of Koch Bros. money will make you vote to end Social Security. No pleading by Obama or the DNC will make you vote to end Medicare.
The Wisconsin voters knew what was going on in their state. They went to the polls and spoke loudly and clearly.
It's sad, it's infruriating, it's disheartening. But instead of looking to place the blame in all sorts of baskets, look to place the blame where it belongs: those who voted to keep Walker in office.
Why did they vote that way? I don't know. We should be seeing interviews all over tv and on the internet of Democrats who voted to keep Walker in office, asking them why they voted that way. Did they not like the idea of a recall? Are they against unions? Did they just like Walker? The only way to know what happened is to ask the people who made it happen.
liberal N proud
(60,336 posts)sybylla
(8,514 posts)But you said it much better.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)Why isn't the media talking to some of those people to find out why they voted that way. Surely some of them, or most of them, are Democrats. Are they union workers at private companies, and they think Walker is only after public worker unions? Do they belong to unions when they didn't want to join but felt they had to? It's important to find these things out, if the Democrats are going to address the problem.
Instead, I see media pundits blaming everything and everyone else, with no one even attempting to get to the facts through the voters. I've seen a couple of very brief interviews with REPUBLICANS who voted for Walker. No surprise there. What's the point of that kind of interview?
Xedniw
(134 posts)That might explain why some union members got messages (propaganda) that made them vote against their own interests.
Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)I personally don't think ads could make a union worker vote against unions. There had to be something else involved. But like I say, no one has asked them. That's the only way to know.
The Walker actions have been front and center in the news, and talked about extensively by union members, for a year, now. There's no way a union worker didn't know what Walker was trying to do. That's what I think.
Initech
(100,081 posts)That's the kind of finger pointing that's going on here. I think everyone needs to take a deep breath, chill the fuck out and we need to regroup and come back stronger than ever to defeat the Koch dipshits in November. That's what needs to happen.
emilyg
(22,742 posts)pampango
(24,692 posts)The secret is not to learn anything from a bad event but to make sure that the people that matter know that "it is somebody else's fault".
The voters in Wisconsin are "to blame". If we want to learn anything from this "sad, infuriating, disheartening" event that's up to us. After we gain some knowledge on why they did what they did, we can decide whether to use that knowledge in our future campaigns or ignore it as irrelevant.