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struggle4progress

(118,282 posts) Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:25 PM Apr 2016

Prepper charged with tax evasion owned stockpile, bunker, authorities say (NC)

Blake Hanson
Updated: Apr 27, 2016 - 7:36 PM

CHARLOTTE, N.C. — A raid that uncovered a bunker full of firearms on a property in Cleveland County is another sign that anti-government rhetoric is on the rise, law enforcement experts said ...

Prosecutors have called Reuben DeHaan a "sovereign citizen" and said he didn't believe that he was required to pay taxes. Attorneys filed charges against him for tax evasion. A search of his property April 21 turned up about 80 guns and a fortified underground bunker.

Federal prosecutors filed additional charges on April 22 and said some of the guns were illegal. DeHaan's attorney said his client is what is commonly known as a “prepper" who built the bunker to prepare for economic or social government collapse. She admitted that some of DeHaan's behavior was unusual but said it doesn't make all his actions illegal ...

DeHaan claims that because he is a minister, he does not have to pay income tax, according to documents ...

http://www.wsoctv.com/news/local/prepper-charged-with-tax-evasion-owned-stockpile-bunker-authorities-say/245623696

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Prepper charged with tax evasion owned stockpile, bunker, authorities say (NC) (Original Post) struggle4progress Apr 2016 OP

They should go after real tax evaders WDIM Apr 2016 #1

this is guy is a "sovereign citizen" nut bag. Javaman Apr 2016 #2

So you believe a Person should have WDIM Apr 2016 #6

he didn't pay his taxes. Javaman Apr 2016 #8

Is that merely an allegation, or can you provide specific and relevant judicial case law to support LanternWaste Apr 2016 #5

Rational thinking is all it takes WDIM Apr 2016 #7

Actually there are several laws that prescribe the seizure of one's property for tax evasion. Glassunion Apr 2016 #9

Common mistake by Mr. DeHaan gratuitous Apr 2016 #3

We can thank Alex Jones and Infowars for this. Initech Apr 2016 #4

WDIM

(1,662 posts)

1. They should go after real tax evaders

Reply to struggle4progress (Original post)

Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:01 PM

Apr 2016

Multi-national corporations and billionaires evade taxes everyday.

Sounds like the Government is just being a bully to this citizen.

Yes not paying your taxes is wrong. But the law is not enforced equally. And raiding this guys home and taking his property is unconstitutional not paying taxes is not cause for searching a person's home

Javaman

(62,530 posts)

2. this is guy is a "sovereign citizen" nut bag.

Reply to WDIM (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 12:16 PM

Apr 2016

I have no problem with raining grief down upon this low life.

WDIM

(1,662 posts)

6. So you believe a Person should have

Reply to Javaman (Reply #2)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:01 PM

Apr 2016

Their rights violated because you disagree with their views?

Sovereignty of the individual is what this country was founded upon. That we are all kings and queens with equal rights and no Person has a right to tread on your rights and no Person has a right to tread on my rights.

Now we do agree to live in a constitutional republic when we live in this country and agree that the Government has the right to tax the citizens

But one could also argue that our taxes are being embezzled by corrupt crony politicians doing the bidding of the megawealthy and corporations. Hence not paying our taxes can be justified because they will be used for corrupt and deadly ends.

Javaman

(62,530 posts)

8. he didn't pay his taxes.

Reply to WDIM (Reply #6)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:31 PM

Apr 2016

he gets no free ride.

you may argue all you want, but at the end of the day, that's what this is about.

pile on that his affiliation with the sovereign citizens, then the amount of fucks I give for this guy decreases to zero.

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)

5. Is that merely an allegation, or can you provide specific and relevant judicial case law to support

Reply to WDIM (Reply #1)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:09 PM

Apr 2016

"And raiding this guys home and taking his property is unconstitutional..."

Is that merely an allegation, or can you provide specific and relevant judicial case law to support it?

WDIM

(1,662 posts)

7. Rational thinking is all it takes

Reply to LanternWaste (Reply #5)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:04 PM

Apr 2016

We have the right to be secure from unreasonable search and seizure. Not paying ones taxes is not a reason for a search and seizure of ones property.

Glassunion

(10,201 posts)

9. Actually there are several laws that prescribe the seizure of one's property for tax evasion.

Reply to WDIM (Reply #7)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 02:49 PM

Apr 2016

So it is not unreasonable. I'm assuming the law was followed, and a judge did sign the warrant for the search of the home and the property to be seized. However, upon searching the property illegal items were discovered (some of the firearms), the officers would be justified in seizing that other property as well.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)

3. Common mistake by Mr. DeHaan

Reply to struggle4progress (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:01 PM

Apr 2016

Ministers do indeed have to pay taxes on their income, a fact that confounds many on the right and the left.

Mr. DeHaan will soon learn a lesson that the Bundy Bunch is currently getting schooled on.

Initech

(100,076 posts)

4. We can thank Alex Jones and Infowars for this.

Reply to struggle4progress (Original post)

Fri Apr 29, 2016, 01:04 PM

Apr 2016

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