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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:53 PM Apr 2016

Donald, hitting 1,237 won't matter: RNC delegate

https://www.yahoo.com/finance/news/donald-hitting-1-237-wont-171452529.html

Donald Trump may be the only Republican presidential candidate who can realistically hit the magic 1,237 number for the majority of delegates, but according to a senior Republican National Committee official that does not mean he will become the GOP presidential nominee.

Curly Haugland, a longstanding RNC official and an unbound delegate from North Dakota who will be on the convention rules committee in July, told CNBC that attaining 1,237 during the primaries does not secure the nomination.

"Even if Trump reaches the magic number of 1,237 the media and RNC are touting, that does not mean Trump is automatically the nominee," Haugland said. "The votes earned during the primary process are only estimates and are not legal convention votes. The only official votes to nominate a candidate are those that are cast from the convention floor."...

"You become the presumptive nominee when you get 1,237 bound delegates," RNC spokesman Lindsay Walters told CNBC. "You officially become nominee when you have 1,237 votes on the floor of the convention."


Extra butter on mine, please!
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Donald, hitting 1,237 won't matter: RNC delegate (Original Post) KamaAina Apr 2016 OP
He won't be their nominee. roamer65 Apr 2016 #1
But can he get ballot access at such a late date? KamaAina Apr 2016 #3
No, not on all of them. He still has time to get in some. morningfog Apr 2016 #8
Two issues. Chan790 Apr 2016 #18
Perhaps but GOP elites are beginning to fold. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Apr 2016 #24
an independent like that may really mess up their election certainot Apr 2016 #25
it will be the most interesting RNC to date. I can't wait. SummerSnow Apr 2016 #2
Have a few months to buy some gourmet popcorn elmac Apr 2016 #17
Republican Party suffering Multiple personality syndrome "GOP elites are accepting Trump as their" Agnosticsherbet Apr 2016 #4
by cleveland they will be in love with the donald...a win is a win. spanone Apr 2016 #9
Agree Renew Deal Apr 2016 #30
This Republican Convention is going to be so much fun! CherokeeDem Apr 2016 #5
Somehow, we've got to get weapons approved for carry on the convention floor . . . Journeyman Apr 2016 #6
A distinction without much of a difference. Igel Apr 2016 #7
GOP strategy Califonz Apr 2016 #10
I would love to see Bernie win and I seriously doubt a Trump/Bush ticket would beat Hillary. nt ohnoyoudidnt Apr 2016 #14
So if it's a Trump/Bush ticket and, God forbid, they won dflprincess Apr 2016 #16
Interesting. DCBob Apr 2016 #11
They will united behind Trump davidn3600 Apr 2016 #12
The GOP is not going to win the White House no matter what they do, IMO. ohnoyoudidnt Apr 2016 #13
This Trump run is like herpes. the gift that keeps on giving. Feeling the Bern Apr 2016 #15
I will be shocked if they have the balls to not give Trump the nomination. LS_Editor Apr 2016 #19
GOP elite says popular vote does not matter keithbvadu2 Apr 2016 #20
There is a chance that the delegates change the rules to unbound all the delegates Renew Deal Apr 2016 #21
This part is interesting. LiberalFighter Apr 2016 #22
Hmm. I see dead people. forest444 Apr 2016 #23
Four dead in Ohio... KamaAina Apr 2016 #27
Things are getting ugly around some people in this country. forest444 Apr 2016 #29
They don't want Trump,but they don't want Ted mainstreetonce Apr 2016 #26
This is going to be good! dlwickham Apr 2016 #28
 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
3. But can he get ballot access at such a late date?
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:57 PM
Apr 2016

Especially in the many states that have "sore loser" laws?

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
18. Two issues.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:17 PM
Apr 2016

1.) It's generally thought sore loser laws won't withstand legal scrutiny.
2.) Virtually every state with one either has a precedent legally (virtually all of which concern John Anderson in 1980 or Lyndon LaRouche in multiple years) or writing in their statute that excludes their application to Presidential races.

It came up previously regarding Sanders ability to do the same thing--run an an independent after losing the primaries.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
17. Have a few months to buy some gourmet popcorn
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:13 PM
Apr 2016

and some French Chardonnay for this special event.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
4. Republican Party suffering Multiple personality syndrome "GOP elites are accepting Trump as their"
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:58 PM
Apr 2016
With varying enthusiasm, GOP elites are accepting Trump as their nominee
Throughout the Republican Party, from New Hampshire to Florida to California, many leaders, operatives, donors and activists arrived this week at the conclusion they had been hoping to thwart or at least delay: Donald Trump will be their presidential nominee.

An aura of inevitability is now forming around the controversial mogul. Trump smothered his opponents in six straight primaries in the Northeast and vacuumed up more delegates than even the most generous predictions foresaw. He is gaining high-profile ­endorsements by the day — a legendary Indiana basketball coach Wednesday, two House committee chairmen Thursday. And his ­rivals, Sen. Ted Cruz of Texas and Ohio Gov. John Kasich, are making the kind of rushed tactical moves that signal desperation.

The party is at a turning point. Republican stalwarts opposed to Trump remain fearful of the damage the unconventional and unruly billionaire might inflict on the party’s down-ballot candidates in November. But many also now see him as the all-but-certain nominee and are exhausted by the prospect of a contested July convention, according to interviews this week with more than a dozen party figures from coast to coast.

spanone

(135,833 posts)
9. by cleveland they will be in love with the donald...a win is a win.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:30 PM
Apr 2016

they don't give a shit what they do to america or the rest of the world.

Journeyman

(15,031 posts)
6. Somehow, we've got to get weapons approved for carry on the convention floor . . .
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 07:59 PM
Apr 2016

The nation would be watching Youtube repeats of this convention long after grammar school students of today had retired . . .

Igel

(35,309 posts)
7. A distinction without much of a difference.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:03 PM
Apr 2016

It will require bound delegates to not vote as they were bound. This would be ... interesting.

Alternatively, it would require that the bound delegates not be registered as being bound to the results of their state. That, too, would be interesting.

Will they be so short-sighted and have such short-term thinking as to forget that we repeat this entire charade in a little less than 4 years?

 

Califonz

(465 posts)
10. GOP strategy
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:45 PM
Apr 2016

Should be to maneuver Trump into selecting Jeb or some other establishment stooge into the VP slot, then when he crushes Hillary in the general, impeach Trump and install Bush III.

I'm an evil genius.

All this can be avoided if we nominate Bernie instead of you-know-who.

dflprincess

(28,078 posts)
16. So if it's a Trump/Bush ticket and, God forbid, they won
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:12 PM
Apr 2016

what makes you think the BFEE would bother with impeachment...It's so messy and time consuming. Besides, they've probably learned from the mistakes Poppy made trying to get Reagan's job early and would do a much cleaner job of it this time.

 

davidn3600

(6,342 posts)
12. They will united behind Trump
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 08:51 PM
Apr 2016

As Hillary enters general election mode, there is already signs many of the GOP establishment are ready to move on and just accept Trump.

ohnoyoudidnt

(1,858 posts)
13. The GOP is not going to win the White House no matter what they do, IMO.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 09:00 PM
Apr 2016

I think it's just a matter of what they can do to retain the most seats in congress.

LS_Editor

(893 posts)
19. I will be shocked if they have the balls to not give Trump the nomination.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:22 PM
Apr 2016

The GOP has, without fail, allowed the worst in the party to control its direction. I doubt that will change.

Trump is threatening violence, and his inane supporters are just waiting to be unleashed.

keithbvadu2

(36,806 posts)
20. GOP elite says popular vote does not matter
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:39 PM
Apr 2016
http://rinf.com/alt-news/newswire/popular-vote-doesnt-count-in-us-gop-official/

"A member of the US Republican National Committee has admitted that the GOP candidate in the 2016 presidential election will be chosen by the party establishment and voters have no say in the matter."

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"When asked what is the point of holding primaries if the party can disregard popular vote, Haugland refused to offer any explanation.

“That’s a very good question,” he said."

Renew Deal

(81,859 posts)
21. There is a chance that the delegates change the rules to unbound all the delegates
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:45 PM
Apr 2016

especially considering most of the delegates will probably not be favorable to Trump.

It would be criminal election theft, but I don't put it past them.

LiberalFighter

(50,928 posts)
22. This part is interesting.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:45 PM
Apr 2016
Haugland explained the primary number is really an estimate. That's because the eligibility of some delegates in how they are voted in could be questioned and their status may not be considered valid, Haugland said.

"Remember every state has a different delegate allocation process," he said. "Delegates are picked up in state contests that can be winner take all, open primaries, and remember there are seven states that allow the candidates to pick their own delegates. Until those delegate challenges are settled, there is no 1,237."


That apparently is what happens when states use different criteria.

forest444

(5,902 posts)
29. Things are getting ugly around some people in this country.
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 11:15 PM
Apr 2016

The Donald, such as he is, is their nominee. If the RNC tries to pull anything, there may indeed be blood.

mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
26. They don't want Trump,but they don't want Ted
Thu Apr 28, 2016, 10:56 PM
Apr 2016

The GOP has no candidate.

Why not save money and just not have a convention to nominate anyone?

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