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MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 09:31 PM Jun 2012

This image is unfair to rats...



And this is why:




In a simple experiment, researchers at the University of Chicago sought to find out whether a rat would release a fellow rat from an unpleasantly restrictive cage if it could. The answer was yes.

The free rat, occasionally hearing distress calls from its compatriot, learned to open the cage and did so with greater efficiency over time. It would release the other animal even if there wasn’t the payoff of a reunion with it. Astonishingly, if given access to a small hoard of chocolate chips, the free rat would usually save at least one treat for the captive — which is a lot to expect of a rat.

The researchers came to the unavoidable conclusion that what they were seeing was empathy.

If only we could find a way to teach empathy to Republicans.

http://ilnemaimepasdutout.tumblr.com/



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brewens

(13,596 posts)
1. Washington State University has announced plans to use Republican's in their lab
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 09:57 PM
Jun 2012

experiments rather than rats. There are three reasons for this. Republicans are more easily obtained than rats. You don't become so easily attached to a Republican as you would a rat. And finally, there are some thing rats just will not do!

femmocrat

(28,394 posts)
2. That is really amazing.
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 10:08 PM
Jun 2012

The more we learn about animals' behavior, it convinces me that they have complex emotions and reasoning. I'm sure that dogs do.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
17. I've been reading "The Pig Who Sang to the Moon: The Emotional World of Farm Animals"
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 12:24 PM
Jun 2012

by Jeffrey Moussaieff Masson.

http://www.amazon.com/The-Pig-Who-Sang-Moon/dp/0345452828/ref=pd_sim_b_4

It's been a fascinating read! He has other books I'm going to check out too.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
10. Social darwinism has become so entrenched it's unsurprising the scientists are "surprised"...
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 11:19 PM
Jun 2012

...at this result. This result is frankly something Kropotkin pointed out over a century ago.

 

BlueJazz

(25,348 posts)
9. I've had pet Rats my whole life. They're smart as hell as sweet also.
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 11:19 PM
Jun 2012

They'll play with you and sit on your shoulder for hours just "hanging out"

loudsue

(14,087 posts)
12. And don't bother to tell Ayn Rand freaks.
Wed Jun 6, 2012, 11:56 PM
Jun 2012

They are SURE that it's basic instinct for animals to be assholes about everything.

starroute

(12,977 posts)
13. Empathy apparently triggers the pleasure centers in the brain
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 12:13 AM
Jun 2012

The experiment described below demonstrated that even thinking about being generous made the pleasure center light up. So if Republicans go through life being greedy or thinking about being greedy, where do they get any sense of pleasure? Does selfishness perversely make some people happy? Or are they just unhappy all the time and is that why they seem determined to make other people suffer as well?

http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2007/05/27/AR2007052701056_pf.html

"You gotta see this!" Jorge Moll had written. Moll and Jordan Grafman, neuroscientists at the National Institutes of Health, had been scanning the brains of volunteers as they were asked to think about a scenario involving either donating a sum of money to charity or keeping it for themselves. . . .

The results were showing that when the volunteers placed the interests of others before their own, the generosity activated a primitive part of the brain that usually lights up in response to food or sex. Altruism, the experiment suggested, was not a superior moral faculty that suppresses basic selfish urges but rather was basic to the brain, hard-wired and pleasurable.

CrispyQ

(36,478 posts)
18. That was excellent. Thank you for posting.
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 12:31 PM
Jun 2012

I liked this:

The more researchers learn, the more it appears that the foundation of morality is empathy.



dana_b

(11,546 posts)
15. Rats
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 12:24 AM
Jun 2012

They don't eat, don't sleep
They don't feed, they don't seethe
Bare their gums when they moan and squeak
Lick the dirt off a larger one's feet
They don't push, don't crowd
Congregate until they're much too loud
Fuck to procreate till they are dead
Drink the blood of their so called best friend

They don't scurry when something bigger comes their way
Don't pack themselves together and run as one
Don't shit where they're not supposed to
Don't take what's not theirs, they don't compare

They don't scam, don't fight
Don't oppress an equals given rights
Starve the poor so they can be well fed
Line their holes with the dead ones bread

They don't scurry when something bigger comes their way
Don't pack themselves together and run as one (2x)
Don't shit where they're not supposed to
Don't take what's not theirs, they don't compare..


LibertyLover

(4,788 posts)
19. I have had rats for pets for years now and they are wonderful animals
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 12:52 PM
Jun 2012

The two girls that I have now did get in a big fight the other day with poor Iris getting bitten by Snicklefritz. But after I cuddled Iris for a while, she was fine. Shortly after I put her back in her Maison d'rat, she and Snickle were cuddled up together like nothing had happened.

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