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LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:38 PM May 2016

So I remember that Poppy Bush, Gerald Ford and Richard Nixon all not

being able to recall where they were when JFK was shot. I told this to my mother, and she told me I was crazy. There is NO WAY that any of them ever said that. Now, mind you, years ago, I told her the confederate flag flew over SC's state building and she said it was just not possible in the 21st Century that a confederate flag was flying anywhere in the USA at all (over any State building). Of course, I was right, and now she has no recollection of us ever having that conversation.

She is now saying that it is impossible that Poppy Bush said he did not know where he was. That there is no way Gerald Ford ever said he doesn't remember nor did Richard Nixon ever say this. I found out about this back in the bartcop days.

Does anyone have any knowledge of this? Of course, I googled before I came here, just putting that out there.

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So I remember that Poppy Bush, Gerald Ford and Richard Nixon all not (Original Post) LaydeeBug May 2016 OP
Who is "her?" Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #1
I left a sentence out. I have fixed it. It was my mother LaydeeBug May 2016 #2
Thanks. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #4
THE poster's mother. n/t truedelphi May 2016 #5
Thanks. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #6
I remember Poppy Bush as not being able to recall where he was. peace13 May 2016 #3
bart was explaining it in a chat room LaydeeBug May 2016 #7
I do remember reading that GHWB said he didn't remember where he was LisaM May 2016 #8
I was in my gradeschool auditorium, watching Kennedy on Television. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #9
We all know where Poppy Bush was......... thelordofhell May 2016 #10
with Cruz's father? LiberalEsto May 2016 #13
He was very close there is a pic of him with police at the book depository. CK_John May 2016 #20
Poppy Bush could not remember, or so he said, truedelphi May 2016 #11
In case some members don't recall, Poppy Bush is the one in the middle ... Scuba May 2016 #12
Damn...looks like a Governor's picnic or something with the futre First Gentleman. nt LaydeeBug May 2016 #14
Crime Family Meeting Scuba May 2016 #15
Poppy was "somewhere in Texas" RufusTFirefly May 2016 #16
The FBI recorded that a GHW Bush of Zapata called the FBI about 45 minutes after the shooting. Festivito May 2016 #17
truedelphi, Bob the drummer and Octafish, all members here, can help you out... Ghost in the Machine May 2016 #18
Link to Octafish's Journal Ghost in the Machine May 2016 #19
 

peace13

(11,076 posts)
3. I remember Poppy Bush as not being able to recall where he was.
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:42 PM
May 2016

Probably from Bartcop. I don't remember the others.

 

LaydeeBug

(10,291 posts)
7. bart was explaining it in a chat room
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:44 PM
May 2016

something about Gerald Ford having amnesia because then he would have been a Witness to the Warren Commission and would not be bale to be a member of it.

LisaM

(27,813 posts)
8. I do remember reading that GHWB said he didn't remember where he was
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:47 PM
May 2016

I also read a couple of other strange things about him in relation to the assassination, one being a strange letter he wrote about it - details escaping me at the moment, but some of the strangeness is in this letter (http://www.rense.com/general62/letter.htm), and then the other bizarre thing you can look up is what may or may not have happened to Dorothy Kilgallon, who was supposedly going to write an expose.

The second two references are definitely for conspiracy theorists, but I agree that George HW Bush said he didn't know where he was when it happened.

Agnosticsherbet

(11,619 posts)
9. I was in my gradeschool auditorium, watching Kennedy on Television.
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:52 PM
May 2016

They had set a big console TV for the kids to watch. After he was shot, the Principal, Mr. Stevenson, turned off the television and dismissed the school. I walked four blocks home. Back then, kids did not wait for their parents to pick them up. Anyone who lived close enough not to need to ride the "Blue Bird Bus" walked. About twenty of us walked in the same direction. I don't remember what we talked about.

truedelphi

(32,324 posts)
11. Poppy Bush could not remember, or so he said,
Tue May 3, 2016, 03:54 PM
May 2016

Where he was at the time JFK was murdered.

He later became the head of the Nixon Campaign Fund, during the 1972 election cycle, in order to eliminate the possibility of the shenanighans that went on going public. These shenanighans would be relating to the weird way that Nixon handled his campaign monies and also maybe even the Kennedy killing itself! that went on going public. (And the powers that Be never thought that Woodward and Bernstein's "funny accounts" in the Washington Post would amount to anything.

Some people that have studied the JFK assassination point out that Bush the Elder was CIA, and that there is that official memo that shows a George Bush being in Texas on the day of the Assassination.

There was another George Bush that worked for the CIA, but he denied that the Bush mentioned in the memo was him.


It is important to note that at least one of the oil vessels registered to Bush the Elder during the late 1950's and 1960's was possibly also utilized to gather intel regarding Cuba.

From "George Bush -- the Unauthorized Biography" --
A body of leads has been assembled which suggests that George Bush may have been associated with the CIA at some time before the autumn of 1963. According to Joseph McBride of The Nation, “a source with close connections to the intelligence community confirms that Bush started working for the agency in 1960 or 1961, using his oil business as a cover for clandestine activities.” 1 By the time of the Kennedy assassination, we have an official FBI document which refers to “Mr. George Bush of the Central Intelligence Agency,” and despite official disclaimers there is every reason to think that this is indeed the man in the White House today. (I.e. Jan 1989 to Jan 1993)




RufusTFirefly

(8,812 posts)
16. Poppy was "somewhere in Texas"
Tue May 3, 2016, 04:12 PM
May 2016
"Somewhere in Texas”

George H. W. Bush may be one of the few Americans of his generation who cannot recall exactly where he was when John F. Kennedy was shot in Dallas on November 22, 1963.

At times he has said that he was “somewhere in Texas.” Bush was indeed “somewhere” in Texas. And he had every reason to remember. At the time Bush was the thirty-nine-year-old chairman of the Harris County (Houston) Republican Party and an outspoken critic of the president. He was also actively campaigning for a seat in the U.S. Senate at exactly the time Kennedy was assassinated right in Bush’s own state. The story behind Bush’s apparent evasiveness is complicated. Yet it is crucial to an understanding not just of the Bush family, but also of a tragic chapter in the nation’s history.


And excerpt from Family of Secrets, by Russ Baker

In fairness to Bush, both C.S. Lewis and Aldous Huxley both died that day, too. (Granted, they weren't shot by lone gunmen, either.) As a result, Poppy may have been too distraught to think clearly.

Festivito

(13,452 posts)
17. The FBI recorded that a GHW Bush of Zapata called the FBI about 45 minutes after the shooting.
Tue May 3, 2016, 04:21 PM
May 2016

He said he was calling from a payphone about an hours drive from Dallas. (I wonder if he had a fast car.)

The car must have had a radio so that he knew as he was driving to pull over and implicate a Mr. Parrot. (A smoke screen for the FBI)

Where was he when he first heard that news report?

He says that tall man in a photo that looks like him outside the Book Depository Building was not him.

But, where was he when he heard? That he does not seem to know.

J Edgar Hoover would write a memo stating that he was met with several persons telling him not to investigate the JFK shooting. Hoover filed the paper inside 10,000 other pages. Was not found for several decades.

Where was JHW Bush when he first learned it? Before or after he got into that fast car.

Ghost in the Machine

(14,912 posts)
18. truedelphi, Bob the drummer and Octafish, all members here, can help you out...
Tue May 3, 2016, 04:36 PM
May 2016

Use the "site search" function at the top of the page and put in "Octafish + Journal".... his Journal is a PRICELESS treasure trove of information about the Bush Family Evil Empire (BFEE).

BTW... NIXON was in Dallas, in a plane at the airport, with LBJ! There's a document floating around, and I KNOW that Octafish has it in his Journal, that shows where "a Mr. George Bush, of the Zapatta Oil Company, called about 40 minutes AFTER the assassination, giving info on a conversation he overheard about someone plotting to kill the President. He was in route TO Dallas..." yet there's a picture of Poppy IN Dallas at the time of the shooting, and I saw a picture the other day that was supposedly Ted Cruz' father with Lee Harvey Oswald... don't know if it is true or not, but isn't the first time I have heard his name linked to the murder of JFK...

Peace,

Ghost

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