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Garry Trudeau and rape in the military (Original Post) unhappycamper Jun 2012 OP
Excellent series. K&R. n/t FSogol Jun 2012 #1
K&R. Chorophyll Jun 2012 #2
and is often the only sane voice in the "news" papers. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2012 #3
Hell yes. Chorophyll Jun 2012 #9
+1 Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #10
du rec. nt xchrom Jun 2012 #4
Those figures are alarming and heartbreaking. dmr Jun 2012 #5
K&R Solly Mack Jun 2012 #6
"You guys should talk." Effectively coded, Mr. Trudeau. RadiationTherapy Jun 2012 #7
Disheartening! Plucketeer Jun 2012 #8
This guy's a national treasure. riderinthestorm Jun 2012 #11
Misogyny chervilant Jun 2012 #12
I discourage all young family members to stay out of the military but I would really hate to see jwirr Jun 2012 #13
A friend of mine, ex-army, told me... Shampoobra Jun 2012 #14
As a female vet this does not surprise me... cynatnite Jun 2012 #17
My little sister has decided to join the Navy Scootaloo Jun 2012 #15
Seriously? Rape stats in the armed forces of what many consider a "Christian" nation??? txwhitedove Jun 2012 #16
This explains a lot. w8liftinglady Jun 2012 #18
 

riderinthestorm

(23,272 posts)
11. This guy's a national treasure.
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 11:08 AM
Jun 2012

Whenever I get a chance to read his comics, I'm always amazed at how insightful he is every single time. And then I inevitably worry, there don't seem to be any others who are working at Trudeau's level. Who will replace him? The political cartoonists like Luckovich and Horsey are equally as savvy but they don't do the storylines like Trudeau.

Really masterful stuff.

K&R.

chervilant

(8,267 posts)
12. Misogyny
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 11:10 AM
Jun 2012

codified.

And, "if you report rape, your career is almost certainly over."

The Pentagon estimates that 80-90% of rapes and sexual assault on women in the military go unreported.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
13. I discourage all young family members to stay out of the military but I would really hate to see
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 11:31 AM
Jun 2012

any of my girls to go in. I did have a niece who was the first black woman to graduate from the Citadel but I suspect she was protected to avoid scandal.

Shampoobra

(423 posts)
14. A friend of mine, ex-army, told me...
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 03:46 PM
Jun 2012

...she never reported it when she was raped while serving in the army because:

1) she was drunk

2) she was alone with the man when he raped her

She explained that it would be fruitless to report the rape, because her female C.O. had warned her when she arrived: "To avoid being raped, never get drunk and never allow yourself to be alone with a man."

In fact, my friend didn't even call it rape. When she described the incident, I told her she had just described rape, and she said, "No, because I was drunk, and we were alone. I shouldn't have done either one." (That's when she told me about her C.O.'s warning.)

cynatnite

(31,011 posts)
17. As a female vet this does not surprise me...
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 08:05 PM
Jun 2012

When I was in, I was lucky. But the harrassment was horrible. We couldn't report it. If we did, we were weak and the last thing you were allowed to be in the Army was weak. We had to suck it up and take it.

Not only that, we had to work twice as hard as the men just to prove we had the "balls". I use that word because that's the word they used to us.

I've been out for some time now and it shames me that not much has changed in all these years.

 

Scootaloo

(25,699 posts)
15. My little sister has decided to join the Navy
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 04:29 PM
Jun 2012

My mother - a dedicated anti-military flower child even after all these years - has been worrying herself sick. Here I've been trying to calm her down, while worried about my sister myself.

w8liftinglady

(23,278 posts)
18. This explains a lot.
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 08:12 PM
Jun 2012

As an election judge,I worked the Democratic primaries alongside the Republicans.
There were two Army active duty home on leave-both female soldiers returning from Afghanistan.

They were bothered when they saw the Republican primary ballot,and came over after they had voted.I told them I was glad they made it home OK,and related a little about my son's multiple deployments.I gently told them the VA has come a long way since 2008 in the care of female vets... and that people are seeing what being female in a war zone is actually like.

"There was nothing on The Republican ballot about Vets".

I told them they were free to vote their conscience in the general election.

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