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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRepublicans / conservatives already jumping ship hard:
After tonights stunning (or not so stunning) loss and Ted Cruz dropping out of the race, the question that I and others are being asked is will we unify behind the presumptive GOP nominee now that he is essentially inevitable?
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Those who subscribe to the idea are saying that Trump is a dangerous, unpredictable man whose aspirations dont align with conservatism. Whose morals are questionable at best. Whose relationship with the truth is not just tenuous, its borderline hostile.
#NeverTrump is not an endorsement of Hillary, its an acceptance that Hillarys ascension is inevitable when the alternative is a wannabe despot.
http://www.redstate.com/aglanon/2016/05/03/mantra-nevertrump-shall/
The comment section is a gold mine. These people really, really don't like Trump.
Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)and that leaves 60% of the electorate wide open for a new and succesful party for Democratic and Progressive ideals?
Hekate
(90,717 posts)Betty Karlson
(7,231 posts)Hekate
(90,717 posts)Though George Will was talking about just that thing when he said they would have to scramble to attempt to "save" as many GOP offices as possible from the coming disaster.
pampango
(24,692 posts)it be one whom we can oppose, and for whom we are not responsible, who will not involve our party in the disgrace of his foolish and bad measures."
To them Trump is 'the enemy'. They would prefer a Democratic 'enemy' whom they can fight and blame.
... Hillary would be more likely to face gridlock on liberal policies than Mr. Trump would.
The party is already destroyed simply by his nomination. #NeverTrump intends to at least salvage conservatism.
More of the gridlock that Obama has experienced if a Democrat is in the White House.
You are right. The comments are a hoot.
rpannier
(24,330 posts)That's been the very model of the modern conservative movement
And, in some countries, conservative movements period
d_legendary1
(2,586 posts)There are still plenty of yahoos out there who will vote for him. Let's not forget that George W. Bush was once POTUS of the United States...TWICE!!!
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Reince Priebus was one of the first to say that Trump was the presumptive nominee. The establishment has a rotten egg, and they don't like it. They've effectively nominated a teabagger to run for President.
d_legendary1
(2,586 posts)The Tea Party Republicans were a cancer to the Umpa Lumpa when he was in charge (had a hard time passing tax cuts to the wealthy). I don't see how a massive tumor as POTUS is beneficial to the establishment, especially since he's left of Attila the Hun on certain issues.
genxlib
(5,528 posts)He has had several blistering articles over the last few days.
I like this one from the day before even better http://www.redstate.com/aglanon/2016/05/02/i-lied-to-myself-for-years
It is his Mea Culpa for standing idly by while people he considered allies said crazier and crazier things.
Here is the zinger
Welcome to reality. Better late than never.
And yes, the comments section is surprisingly on board with this. Of course they are a little delusional as to why they hate Trump but I will take what I can get.
The bottom line is this. It isn't good enough to shun Trump. They should be shunning Trump voters as well.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)As if the Beck's and Coulter's of the world weren't always in it for the money.
Volaris
(10,272 posts)For the last 40 years isn't gonna do dick except piss off the proles MORE.
They built this monster, the only thing left to do is own it and let them live with the destruction it brings. To do otherwise is the height of intellectual dishonesty.
I say, let's MAKE them own it. No skating on their responsibilities THIS CYCLE. And when the idle and idiot rich bitch and cry cause their capital gains rate goes up to pay for Useful Public Things, let's remind them WHY there was no GOP powerbase to prevent it.
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)From a comment on that site:
"The saddest part is that Democrats get to say "I'm going to Canada." We don't have our version of Canada. When America is no longer America, we will have nowhere else to go."
North Korea?
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)whole existence catering to Trump's fascist base,now they're concerned?
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)Go to their front page.
Mind you it's like Kos with individual blog contributors. But the most popular articles are anti Trump.
sufrommich
(22,871 posts)players in every Obama conspiracy theory.They've given people like Pamela Geller center stage. Little Green Football does an excellent job of exposing their ugly underbelly:
http://littlegreenfootballs.com/article/44919_The_Stunning_Hypocrisy_of_Erick_Erickson
Skittles
(153,169 posts)FLPanhandle
(7,107 posts)I have many conservative friends. Only one has said he would vote for Trump. The rest are sitting out this election.
JSup
(740 posts)...I saw them posting about voting for Gary Johnson (their version of Jill Stein) or creating a new party and on the Hannity forums, some will vote Hillary and some will vote Gary Johnson.
Also a bunch of "RIP America" posts like Obama won against Romney all over again or something.
Behind the Aegis
(53,961 posts)There are rumors swirling in OK that our governor, Mary Fallin, might get a shot. She is female and a right-wing loon. She could be good at getting back some women and the right-wing nutjobs who just loved them some Cruz. I suggest people look her up; she's fucking HORRIBLE!