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Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
Wed May 4, 2016, 11:53 AM May 2016

May 4, 1970....It can happen again, you know.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kent_State_shootings



If a moronic narcissist takes over the WH, Drumpf, or a moronic/narcissist/religious fanatic,, Ted Cruz, we could very well see American soldiers shooting and killing American citizens for the crime of protest, again. Which is not a crime, by the way.


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puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
2. I dont remember people
Wed May 4, 2016, 12:05 PM
May 2016

getting killed or the police opening fire upon them.
Did that happen to people in OWS ?

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
3. It struck me as incredibly violent and unnecessary. We are on the verge of seeing similar
Wed May 4, 2016, 12:09 PM
May 2016

Things again and it could as easily happen with a democrat in office as a republican.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
5. Obama is hated here by some. But it makes sense if you read everything they say.
Wed May 4, 2016, 12:14 PM
May 2016

BTW, Obama will go down as one of the top 3 of all time as to successful accomplishments.

zalinda

(5,621 posts)
6. Did Obama say anything about all the pepper spray used?
Wed May 4, 2016, 12:15 PM
May 2016

If OWS had continued, it could have escalated to Kent State level. At this point, I distrust the government. What they have done in my name has been murder, maybe not in this country, yet. But, ask any one in the Middle East how our government has treated them and you might get a different answer. If Hillary can take out Qaddafi and laugh about it, I don't see her being any better than those who did the shooting at Kent State, except she wouldn't get her hands dirty.

Z

TeamPooka

(24,229 posts)
9. "Could have"? Pepper spray are not bullets. Also the national guard was not used to
Wed May 4, 2016, 12:23 PM
May 2016

break up OWS, local police units were.
Local police that were not under the authority of the President or Governor, like those at Kent State.
Comparing OWS to Kent State is the stupidest thing I've heard this week.

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
14. hhhmmmm
Fri May 6, 2016, 07:20 PM
May 2016
It was more sophisticated than we had imagined: new documents show that the violent crackdown on Occupy last fall – so mystifying at the time – was not just coordinated at the level of the FBI, the Department of Homeland Security, and local police. The crackdown, which involved, as you may recall, violent arrests, group disruption, canister missiles to the skulls of protesters, people held in handcuffs so tight they were injured, people held in bondage till they were forced to wet or soil themselves –was coordinated with the big banks themselves.

The Partnership for Civil Justice Fund, in a groundbreaking scoop that should once more shame major US media outlets (why are nonprofits now some of the only entities in America left breaking major civil liberties news?), filed this request. The document – reproduced here in an easily searchable format – shows a terrifying network of coordinated DHS, FBI, police, regional fusion center, and private-sector activity so completely merged into one another that the monstrous whole is, in fact, one entity: in some cases, bearing a single name, the Domestic Security Alliance Council. And it reveals this merged entity to have one centrally planned, locally executed mission. The documents, in short, show the cops and DHS working for and with banks to target, arrest, and politically disable peaceful American citizens.


http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2012/dec/29/fbi-coordinated-crackdown-occupy

Oh and here is Scott Olson



He might have died in another era from the pretty nasty head injury by the way. That is what happens when CS gas canisters are aimed at you though.
 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
12. Oh wow!
Fri May 6, 2016, 06:55 PM
May 2016

" If Hillary can take out Qaddafi and laugh about it, I don't see her being any better than those who did the shooting at Kent State, except she wouldn't get her hands dirty."
Do you even know who Qaddafi is? As far as I'm concerned he got what he deserved. She can laugh her butt off for all I care.
Honestly I couldn't care less if he died a brutal, horrible death. He had people publicly hanged and massacred by the thousands for daring to protest his regime and the rape of their economy. He warned he'd burn all of Libya if the protesters tried to overthrow his regime.

 

puffy socks

(1,473 posts)
16. Yep revolution is tough.
Fri May 6, 2016, 09:55 PM
May 2016

I still don't care. She can laugh and spit on his grave and dance.
It's like expecting people to be upset that Hitler was killed.

zalinda

(5,621 posts)
17. Except he wasn't Hitler
Sat May 7, 2016, 01:35 PM
May 2016

and it isn't a revolution. It is a forced revolution, the US forced it, which means that the US overthrew the government. That is not our job. Our governments job is to the people, yes protect, but not overthrow governments so corporations can go in and make money in the chaos that's left.

I am not happy about any one's death, even Hitler's. I would have much preferred that he would have faced a world court and be jailed, than take the easy way out.

Z

 

nadinbrzezinski

(154,021 posts)
13. I am amazed that you do not remember what happaned at OWS
Fri May 6, 2016, 07:03 PM
May 2016

by the way, the only reason it did not go to bullets was they had CS delivery devices and LRADs and it was coordinated. These days you do not need to outright kill people to suppress them.

On edit, this is from OWS Oalkland



Yup, that canister hurt him badly, almost killed him, and it was aimed according to witnesses. His name is Scott Olsen and in the end he received 4.5 million.

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