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shcrane71

(1,721 posts) Thu Jun 7, 2012, 09:19 AM Jun 2012

WI voter hack issue

http://www.thomhartmann.com/forum/2012/06/emergency-%E2%80%94-please-read-%E2%80%94-serious-wisconsin-vote-hack-issue

Command Central Makes Its Move—A Shady Deal With WI County Clerks

Last September, Election Integrity investigators discovered that unbeknownst to average citizens of Wisconsin, Command Central sent those 46 districts an offer: trade out your old Optech Insight Scanner for two DRE Touch Screen models, at no charge. The Optech machine is the one that paper ballots are fed through to read and register the votes.

While these machines are also susceptible to hacking (see Rep. Pridemore explain how to game the machine) in the case of a recount, it is possible to physically monitor the paper ballots as they are fed through the machine to see if they match the machine totals.

With DRE Touch Screens, however, one’s vote could be flipped and one would never know because there is no receipt or paper trail voters receive to confirm their vote was counted as voted. All that is left is a paper tape that shows votes and vote totals. If the machine is hacked, those totals have no other verifiable trail to confirm the results.

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WI voter hack issue (Original Post) shcrane71 Jun 2012 OP

Dammit. We need to press for answers. liberalla Jun 2012 #1

Thanks for the info... oh this is sad. shcrane71 Jun 2012 #2

Also interesting is that John Washburn is a Republican, liberalla Jun 2012 #3

liberalla

(9,249 posts)

1. Dammit. We need to press for answers.

Reply to shcrane71 (Original post)

Thu Jun 7, 2012, 11:06 AM

Jun 2012

continuing...

"And yet according to John Washburn, this swap-out two-for-one offer violates the statutes issued by the GAB for State approved system as described on the Government Accountability Board’s website that requires the inclusion of an Optech Insight Scanner.

On January 13, 2012, Washburn emailed the GAB about this situation. When he did not receive an answer, he submitted an Open Records request to the GAB, with no reply. On May 2, he submitted another, again to no response. On May 4, he turned the case over to Dane County Attorney, and on May 14 he kicked it up to the Department of Justice.

Why is Command Central offering free machines? Why does the GAB not respond? Will the Department of Justice respond in time to help protect our June 5th recall elections?

Are these the “tough questions” clerks were being trained to answer?"

Lots of details and info I've never read before, in the original article:
http://wcmcoop.com/members/meet-command-central-the-people-in-charge-of-wisconsin-voting-machines/

Something stinks.

Also, found a post on this by Omaha Steve from May 23rd...
http://www.democraticunderground.com/1002720995

shcrane71

(1,721 posts)

2. Thanks for the info... oh this is sad.

Reply to liberalla (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 7, 2012, 11:15 AM

Jun 2012

liberalla

(9,249 posts)

3. Also interesting is that John Washburn is a Republican,

Reply to liberalla (Reply #1)

Thu Jun 7, 2012, 11:17 AM

Jun 2012

and he supported Walker.

Bradblog wrote this yesterday:

"John Washburn of Fair Elections Wisconsin is both a Republican supporter of Walker's in Wisconsin and a Election Integrity colleague. We spoke to him tonight and he too questions the accuracy of the results, though he averred the possibility that Walker's reported victory could be due to a number of tax levies that were removed over the past year, resulting in a smaller tax bill for many Badger State voters in April, just before they then went to the polls in June.

He asks, however, when looking at the much closer Exit Poll results versus the computer-reported tally of ballots: "Why is it that the media simply presume the election results are correct, but that the Exit Polls are not? Why is one set of unverified data more trusted than the other, especially when neither are made publicly verifiable?"

http://www.bradblog.com/?p=9332

[font size=4]Why is it that the media simply presume the election results are correct, but that the Exit Polls are not? Why is one set of unverified data more trusted than the other, especially when neither are made publicly verifiable?[/font]

Excellent question, Mr. Washburn.

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