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morningfog

(18,115 posts)
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 09:24 AM Jun 2012

ANother Face-Eating "Bath-Salts" Attack...Time To Talk Seriously About Drug Policy/Legalization

Another violent face-biting incident associated with the drug mephedrone has taken place, this time in Louisiana, according to Lafayette, Louisiana’s KATC. Forty-three-year-old Carl Jacquneaux is accused of biting the face of Todd Credeur in a bizarre attack that took place over the weekend and bears a startling resemblance to a case that took place last month in Miami, in which 31-year-old Rudy Eugene attacked another man and tore off most of his face with his teeth before being shot dead by police.

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Wired magazine reports that regulators are engaged in an elaborate game of “Whac-a-mole” with the chemists producing the drugs. “Every time a compound is banned, overseas chemists synthesize a new version tweaked just enough to evade a law’s letter,” wrote Wired‘s Brandon Keim.

http://www.rawstory.com/rs/2012/06/06/new-face-eating-bath-salts-attack-in-louisiana/

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I have a suggestion for "regulators". You don;t have to play whac-a-mole. Legalize the drugs that are preferred, but currently illegal, and don't cause violent face-eating reactions in the users. The "bath-salt" industry will dry up to lack of demand. This list to be legalized should include, but not be limited to, marijuana, LSD, ecstasy and psilocybin. We need a smart drug policy, not a reactive and ineffective drug policy.

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ANother Face-Eating "Bath-Salts" Attack...Time To Talk Seriously About Drug Policy/Legalization (Original Post) morningfog Jun 2012 OP
yep 2pooped2pop Jun 2012 #1
+1 (nt) enough Jun 2012 #3
Given some of the high-profile "bad trips" Blue_Tires Jun 2012 #2
Because they can easily access it without having to engage in "illegal activity." morningfog Jun 2012 #8
why would anyone use Meth? LSD? crack? dixiegrrrrl Jun 2012 #9
LSD is addictive?,,,,, you throw that into the mix ? what ignorance Ichingcarpenter Jun 2012 #11
You are correct, but do not have to so rude about it. dixiegrrrrl Jun 2012 #12
Just edit your post and exclude LSD... science would appreciate that Ichingcarpenter Jun 2012 #13
Your off-the-cuff ignorance is offensive to those of us who favor a rational drug policy. nt Romulox Jun 2012 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Romulox Jun 2012 #24
one of those drugs is not like the others..one of those drugs does not belong. one of those drugs is dionysus Jun 2012 #26
I know a bunch of folks who choose booze or harder stuff 'cause they can't get pot. Scuba Jun 2012 #4
Only Meiko Jun 2012 #5
The gov't is powerless to stop this. POWERLESS! Now suit up boys, time to raid another dispensary! Romulox Jun 2012 #6
His whole department is filled with Bush Boys Ichingcarpenter Jun 2012 #14
Nonsense. They're "Obama boys", now. The President and Eric Holder have prioritized busting Romulox Jun 2012 #23
they all have a new boss now. sad, but true. piratefish08 Jun 2012 #27
Pot is the most benign drug imaginable. hifiguy Jun 2012 #7
Bands like Styx and REO Speedwagon would probably have coalition_unwilling Jun 2012 #15
Ba-zing! hifiguy Jun 2012 #18
Exactly. Nobody wants a drug like this (or so many others) except that they can get it Egalitarian Thug Jun 2012 #10
In neither of these cases has the link to "bath salts" been proven. Comrade Grumpy Jun 2012 #16
Exactly right! The victims may have had delicious-looking faces... Spike89 Jun 2012 #17
Maybe faces are delicious 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #21
Since Florida clamped down on painkiller "pill mills", HooptieWagon Jun 2012 #19
I hope this isn't becoming a trend. smirkymonkey Jun 2012 #20
I think "face eating zombies" wannabes are coming out Bryn Jun 2012 #22
 

2pooped2pop

(5,420 posts)
1. yep
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 09:28 AM
Jun 2012

I know many many people who have used other drugs when all they want is a little pot to smoke after work. It's our beer but with much less side effects and problems than beer. (which is the true gateway drug)

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
9. why would anyone use Meth? LSD? crack?
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 12:32 PM
Jun 2012

Because denial tells them they are the exception to the bad results.
And the drugs are addictive.
I do not know if bath salts are addcitive.
But since the story says an "overdose" leads to violent and psychotic behavior,
something is telling those people to use more than they intended to use.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
11. LSD is addictive?,,,,, you throw that into the mix ? what ignorance
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 12:34 PM
Jun 2012

Maybe Heroin instead and you should modify your post.

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
12. You are correct, but do not have to so rude about it.
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 12:55 PM
Jun 2012

I did not mean to include LSD as addcitive in my statement.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
13. Just edit your post and exclude LSD... science would appreciate that
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 12:59 PM
Jun 2012

usually your posts are right on. not that one

Ignorance forgiven.

Response to dixiegrrrrl (Reply #9)

dionysus

(26,467 posts)
26. one of those drugs is not like the others..one of those drugs does not belong. one of those drugs is
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 08:57 AM
Jun 2012

not like the others...

see if you can figure it out before i finish my song...

 

Scuba

(53,475 posts)
4. I know a bunch of folks who choose booze or harder stuff 'cause they can't get pot.
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 09:53 AM
Jun 2012

There are no winners in the war on drugs.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
14. His whole department is filled with Bush Boys
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 01:01 PM
Jun 2012

I don't like how he is holding down the fort for democrats

I don't like a ton of things he has let slip by because of the bush boys.

Romulox

(25,960 posts)
23. Nonsense. They're "Obama boys", now. The President and Eric Holder have prioritized busting
Fri Jun 8, 2012, 08:53 AM
Jun 2012

cancer patients and sick people.

I know it sucks, but it's the truth.

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
7. Pot is the most benign drug imaginable.
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 10:36 AM
Jun 2012

Its only notable side effects are the munchies and, in some, a tolerance for bad rock 'n' roll. Potheads do not become zombie cannibals. I speak from extensive personal experience, especially in the 1970s and 1980s.

 

coalition_unwilling

(14,180 posts)
15. Bands like Styx and REO Speedwagon would probably have
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 01:04 PM
Jun 2012

remained confined to the bar circuit without the influence of the demon weed.

Not sure weed alone explains Ted Nugent though - think Jack Daniels and meth\crack\crank may have something to do with his continued success.

 

Egalitarian Thug

(12,448 posts)
10. Exactly. Nobody wants a drug like this (or so many others) except that they can get it
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 12:32 PM
Jun 2012

and anything is better than living in this hell-on-earth we have created for so many that we then, in turn, pretend don't exist or blame for their problems. So sure, they'll drink smoke, swallow, or shoot anything that removes them from the suffering for awhile.

We ignore the fact that drug abuse has a cause and more often than not, that cause is us.

 

Comrade Grumpy

(13,184 posts)
16. In neither of these cases has the link to "bath salts" been proven.
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 01:46 PM
Jun 2012

No toxicology report from Miami, no toxicology report from Louisiana.

At this point, this is nothing but media-driven speculation.

Spike89

(1,569 posts)
17. Exactly right! The victims may have had delicious-looking faces...
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 01:54 PM
Jun 2012

It may have been just about anything that set the attackers off. Maybe bath salts, but maybe bad prescription drug combos, maybe just hunger--it is all conjecture at this point.

However, the points people make about legality and drug shifting are absolutely spot on. If cocaine were cheap and easily available, meth wouldn't disappear, but it would be much less common. If meth were legal, bath salts would be less likely. People will seek mood altering drugs and many will go for the easiest, most available option.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
21. Maybe faces are delicious
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 03:38 PM
Jun 2012

I've never eaten one so I can't say.

Perhaps we should be working on some alternative to wean them off real faces and on to something more sustainable, like tofu flavored and shaped to resemble a human face. Or perhaps pig faces would do the trick.

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
20. I hope this isn't becoming a trend.
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 02:58 PM
Jun 2012

It's just beyond my imagination how someone could do such a thing. Are we becoming less than human because of the society we've been forced to live in? Or is it just some really, really bad drugs?

Bryn

(3,621 posts)
22. I think "face eating zombies" wannabes are coming out
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 07:12 PM
Jun 2012

Rudy Eugene, the "Miami Zombie" is the first one, really really crazy, very unnatural. I've heard of cannibalism, but not like this. Then when a cop arrested a guy in Miami recently, he threatened to eat cop's face, growled & tried to bite cop's hand. This one clearly is just a wannabe even though cops said he was on drugs.

I can't wait for drug tests on Rudy to come out, but it will take a long while. It could be something else. It's not in a Psychiatrists' text book. Very strange... I hope they have an answer soon.

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