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applegrove

(118,770 posts)
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:24 PM May 2016

More Red States Embrace Obamacare, As Long As You Don’t Call It That

More Red States Embrace Obamacare, As Long As You Don’t Call It That

by Jeffrey Young at the Huffington Post

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/republican-states-embrace-obamacare_us_57291c97e4b0bc9cb04504bb?utm_hp_ref=politics

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WASHINGTON — Presidential candidates and other national politicians throw around a lot of rhetoric about health care reform, but the real action is happening in conservative state legislatures across the country.

Red state governors and lawmakers are deciding what health care for low-income people and those with disabilities delivered through Medicaid, the joint federal-state health benefit program, will look like in the post-Obamacare era.

“This, at this point, is largely a fight within the Republican Party,” said Joan Alker, executive director for the Center for Children and Families at Georgetown University, who is an expert on Medicaid issues.

In some cases, Republicans have concocted pretty convoluted ways to do Obamacare without saying they’re doing Obamacare, to get other Republicans to go along.



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More Red States Embrace Obamacare, As Long As You Don’t Call It That (Original Post) applegrove May 2016 OP
Typical. raging moderate May 2016 #1
Maybe that is a sign the GOP have given marching orders to the states to implement...lest health applegrove May 2016 #2
The commercials call it "Christian Health Care" louis-t May 2016 #3
Well played nxylas May 2016 #12
Millions in red states would have Medicaid years ago IronLionZion May 2016 #4
Obamacare is the name the Republicans gave the ACA. demosincebirth May 2016 #5
Thank you. liberalnarb May 2016 #17
I was confused by that as well LiberalLovinLug May 2016 #19
Reminds me of the law prohibiting signs announcing ARRA projects in Virginia underpants May 2016 #6
They're the ones who insisted on calling it that while they were trying to defeat it. Iggo May 2016 #7
Now that's some irony. The GOP named the ACA Obamacare. Nitram May 2016 #8
Fantastic article, thanks. So funny! Hortensis May 2016 #9
Only the Repuglicans started calling it "Obamacare." maddiemom May 2016 #10
That's the way to do it, Jeb Bartlet May 2016 #11
Just call it zentrum May 2016 #13
That's not its name anyway. drm604 May 2016 #14
But THEY'RE the ones who called it that, LOL rocktivity May 2016 #15
That's funny... Zambero May 2016 #16
Great, lets call single-payer "The Jesus System" liberalnarb May 2016 #18
k+r Blue_Tires May 2016 #20

applegrove

(118,770 posts)
2. Maybe that is a sign the GOP have given marching orders to the states to implement...lest health
Wed May 4, 2016, 10:30 PM
May 2016

Last edited Wed May 4, 2016, 11:08 PM - Edit history (1)

care, and INSURANCE FOR PREEXISTING CONDITIONS, become a wedge issue for democrats this fall.

nxylas

(6,440 posts)
12. Well played
Sat May 7, 2016, 06:46 AM
May 2016

It may stick in the craw of blue state dems, but if you want to sell it in the South, then that's the way to do it.

IronLionZion

(45,523 posts)
4. Millions in red states would have Medicaid years ago
Thu May 5, 2016, 06:56 PM
May 2016

if we had just one more liberal on the supreme court to avoid striking down the Medicaid expansion.

Life sucks in red states. I grew up in a conservative rural area and would not want to move back.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,176 posts)
19. I was confused by that as well
Mon May 9, 2016, 01:26 PM
May 2016

Its funny to watch these Republicans back away from their own brand name they concocted. At the time they thought, obviously, that it would tar the whole program as one shoved down the throats of Americans by one individual, a Black individual who usurped the Presidency, a Kenyan Muslim Socialist anti-Hetro, Terrorist loving, weak but at the same time dangeriously threatening...etc....

And it worked for awhile. But now as it has been proven to be an improvement and successful, (as much as a privately run insurance plan can be) they are scrambling to distance themselves of that moniker they invented.


But why oh why did even Obama himself use that term? Over and over. I'm sure he did it to rub it in their faces. But why not always use the term the Affordable Care Act when speaking of it? It would have put the emphasis on "affordable" which is the whole point of the policy in the first place. But by he and other Democrats using it as well, it further cemented the Republicans charge of arrogance and a one man show.

underpants

(182,876 posts)
6. Reminds me of the law prohibiting signs announcing ARRA projects in Virginia
Fri May 6, 2016, 07:01 AM
May 2016

Finds were set aside in the American Recovery and Reinvestment Act of 2009 to purchase roadside signs announcing that the project you were driving by was funded by the ARRA. This was to serve like signs in the Depression letting people know that SOMETHING was being done and also to inject money into the sign making industry and all their suppliers. The Virginia legislature, Republican majority, specifically prohibited this part of the Act. This served to cloud exactly what was being done and to serve the "Where'd all the money go?" talking point.

We drove to a wedding in Ohio in 2010 and we passed several road projects that had such signs once we were in WV and Ohio.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
9. Fantastic article, thanks. So funny!
Fri May 6, 2016, 08:57 AM
May 2016

Yes, might as well laugh. No matter how disgusting, it's to the good in the end.

I particularly enjoyed Arkansas's tricksterism to cover the obstructionist butts for reelection.

maddiemom

(5,106 posts)
10. Only the Repuglicans started calling it "Obamacare."
Fri May 6, 2016, 04:37 PM
May 2016

I've actually read some of them claim that "Obama was conceited in naming it after himself." Remember "Hillarycare?" Chose a political figure who's divisive among the dolts: a surefire way to turn them against what the rest of the civilized world embraces as a benefit to them..."Obamacare" being a poor copy of the healthcare benefits known in the other "first world" nations.

drm604

(16,230 posts)
14. That's not its name anyway.
Sun May 8, 2016, 11:33 AM
May 2016

The Republicans invented that name to make it seem undesirable to Obama haters. Now they're having to back away from it.

Zambero

(8,965 posts)
16. That's funny...
Sun May 8, 2016, 08:36 PM
May 2016

Obamacare was originally coined as a pejorative term. Now it need to be called something else, lest the "Obama" reference comes across as being a positive association?

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