...that Republicans ACTUALLY filibuster.

One party, two faces.

What will be the reason to move goalpost if this happens.

The House did it because they found it cumbersome. The Senate should, too. Tinkering around the F-fule does nothing.

When the low-informed people (the vast majority of Americans) see nothing coming out of Congress that benefit them, they'll blame the party that's in the majority even though it's the minority party that's filibustering. Very few people even know there's such a thing as the filibuster rule, let alone how it's use and abused.

Democrats have been blamed due to Congress' inability to get anything done and the Republicans reaped the benefits as we've seen in 2010.

Reid needs to remove the filibuster rule completely or he needs to be replaced by a Democrat who will.

because they won't want Dems to try and block Rmoney the way they blocked Obama.

if so, why haven't they done it?

I don't think there's a procedure for altering them between Senates.

Each senate sets it's own rules with a simple majority vote. So they can change the rules every 2 years with 51 senators.

After those rules are set, it takes 60 senators to change them. Just like it takes 60 to break a filibuster. So you're not going to have the 60 votes to change the rules to stop filibusters.

And we will be extremely lucky to maintain control of the Senate.

But I guess at least he's saying it.

I would expect you to do everything you can to block any attempt by them to 'change the rules.' I expect you to use the filibuster just as the GOP did against Obama--fuck up everything that he wants to do and don't back down and say, 'we gotta begin to work together.'

If so, he should promise filibuster changes even if Rs become the majority - if the minority agrees, the majority can get rid of it. But it seems that both parties only want to get rid of the filibuster when they are in the majority.

Why would a change in the rules be dependent on Obama being re-elected, its not like he has to OK Senate rule changes and in fact if Romney might take the throne it will be more important than ever to stop Republican obstruction in the Senate.

Every Senators that wants to filibuster legislation must remain on the floor until they withdraw their filibuster support. Break out the cots, boys & girls, if you want to stop a legislation from proceeding, then be prepared to spend the night.

Also, they must keep talking. After 1 minute of no speechifying from anybody, then the filibuster is officially cancelled and no further filibusters will be accepted, and simple majority is needed to pass legislation.

No more 60+ senators needed for supermajority for filibusters. A simple majority will be fine to kill it.

We've controlled the Senate for several years and have done nothing about this. Now when we are in jeopardy of losing it (the next two Senate election years will have a disproportionate number of Dems defending seats), we want to end the filibuster? Sorry, but the timing stinks. Now if the Rs win the Senate, they can make these changes and say that it was what the Ds were going to do anyway. Sigh.

You have lost all credibility.

That is if you count Sanders, Lieberman and Angus King of Maine as Democrats.

So it is not clear whether Reid or McConnell will be changing the filibuster rule.

First thing is dropping the "bomb" that would pretty much outlaw any fillibusters. They almost did in the last time they controlled the Senate. Be assured that rushpublicans will ram through some of the most draconian "legislation" if given the keys to the House and Senate...not to mention confirmation of the next SCOTUS justice or two.

Reid has been a weak leader who should have never agreed to the 60 vote threshold...why do I doubt he'll follow through if Democrats prevail in November???