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(85,998 posts)
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 11:11 AM Jun 2012

Jeb Bush Won't Accept Pick As Romney VP -- Says Today's GOP 'Short-Sighted'

from an interview with Charlie Rose for "CBS This Morning,"interview with Charlie Rose for "CBS This Morning,": http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-505267_162-57448736/unshackled-jeb-bush-offers-light-praise-advice-for-obama/?tag=showDoorLeadStoriesAreaMain;thisMorningLeadHero


"I don't have to play the game of being 100,000 percent against President Obama. I got a long list of things that I think he's done wrong. And I, with civility and respect, I will point those out if I'm asked. But on the things that I think he's done a good job on, I-- I'm not gonna just say, 'no, no,' " Bush said.

Former Florida Gov. Jeb Bush said he‘s worried about the direction of today’s Republican Party, calling the GOP “short-sighted” for its failure to recognize changing demographics.

“In terms of the tone of the debate, it sends the signal, ‘we want your support but you really can’t join our team,’” Bush said in a wide-ranging interview with CBS’ “This Morning” aired Thursday. “That’s the short term implications of this and demographically, Latino voters and Hispanic voters will be important, but going forward even more so.”

He added, “I think it is short-sighted. I think there needs to be more efforts to recognize the demographics of our country are changing and…how we message our views needs to change as well.”


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Jeb Bush Won't Accept Pick As Romney VP -- Says Today's GOP 'Short-Sighted' (Original Post) bigtree Jun 2012 OP
Yawn. And Duh. rocktivity Jun 2012 #1
missing the point bigtree Jun 2012 #2
He's gambling Mittens will win and he will run in 2016. WI_DEM Jun 2012 #3
how does this statement 'help Mitt win?' bigtree Jun 2012 #4
Mitt's already going to have a lot of trouble winning this year. AverageJoe90 Jun 2012 #5
? sadbear Jun 2012 #6
I suppose. AverageJoe90 Jun 2012 #8
no. he's gambling Mittens will lose magical thyme Jun 2012 #9
Exactly. Mutiny In Heaven Jun 2012 #14
The opposite get the red out Jun 2012 #13
The smoothest smartest scariest Bush tblue Jun 2012 #7
short-sighted = getting harder to sell same * to the same people Johonny Jun 2012 #10
Jebbie's Doing A Lot Better Than A President... KharmaTrain Jun 2012 #11
Statistical anomaly... Wounded Bear Jun 2012 #12
he does have a point datasuspect Jun 2012 #15

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
1. Yawn. And Duh.
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 11:14 AM
Jun 2012

1. Run as moderate to get elected.
2. Execute a sharp right turn once in office
3. Rinse and repeat...


rocktivity

bigtree

(85,998 posts)
2. missing the point
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 11:16 AM
Jun 2012

To the majority of the public, this will be seen as a serious divide in the republican party which we should be more than willing to exploit.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
5. Mitt's already going to have a lot of trouble winning this year.
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 11:19 AM
Jun 2012

And ironically, Jeb here has only made things worse for him.

 

AverageJoe90

(10,745 posts)
8. I suppose.
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 11:21 AM
Jun 2012

Even after Walker's win in WI I'm still more concerned about 2016 than this year, because once Obama wins, he can't run for another term, sadly......

 

magical thyme

(14,881 posts)
9. no. he's gambling Mittens will lose
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 11:22 AM
Jun 2012

and rehabilitating the family name and positioning himself as reasonable and moderate to run in 2016.

I don't think it's much of a gamble, either. Just as McCane was the throwaway candidate in 2008, Mittens is the throwaway candidate in 2012.

It's going to be quite the spectacle watching them try to foist some idjit as Mitten's running mate. Jeb has already tried, multiple times, to foist that role onto Rubio. But Rubio is running for his life too.

Nobody wants to be that close to Mittens. They'll probably be reduced to using death threats to coerce somebody to take on the task.

Mutiny In Heaven

(550 posts)
14. Exactly.
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 11:57 AM
Jun 2012

He's positioning himself as HW II.

I do wonder about the WH meetings with Obama. I dunno, they peddle an agenda that is anathema to me, but excluding the obvious, the Bushes are not stupid. They know that today's GOP isn't sustainable without Koch money in every election. It's in their best interests that Romney loses.

Should Obama win this year, Jeb will be along in 2016 and he won't have much to say about same-sex marriage and so on. Going forward, a GOP that is not socially dogmatic is one that will win more elections over the next hundred years and hideous as I find fiscal conservatism, I'm always happy to debate people on that issue.

A division along the lines of genuine policy is infinitely preferable to having ludicrous wedge issues thrown into the mix; I suspect that there are plenty in the Republican party who remember that when they go home at night. Shame on them for being too beholden to power to speak up for it.

get the red out

(13,466 posts)
13. The opposite
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 11:38 AM
Jun 2012

He's betting on Romney losing and he is setting himself up to "re-create" a kinder and gentler Republican Party and be the nominee in 2016. Of course he will be nothing of the sort, but he's setting his stage now. A Romney win wouldn't help his aspirations in the least.

tblue

(16,350 posts)
7. The smoothest smartest scariest Bush
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 11:21 AM
Jun 2012

When and of he ever runs, he will win. And he will be deadly for the 99%.

I've heard it said that the Bushes are the most powerful family in the country.

Johonny

(20,851 posts)
10. short-sighted = getting harder to sell same * to the same people
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 11:22 AM
Jun 2012

I enjoy he wants to change the way they message but not the message.

KharmaTrain

(31,706 posts)
11. Jebbie's Doing A Lot Better Than A President...
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 11:24 AM
Jun 2012

Other than ego, what's he got to prove or accomplish? He's seen close-up what a nutcracker job being a President is...even with his dumbass brother. It's ten years out of your life where you have little privacy and in the end you get put down and ignored. He's making a nice buck in the "private sector"...comfortable in his own skin that he doesn't need this headache.

Wounded Bear

(58,670 posts)
12. Statistical anomaly...
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 11:27 AM
Jun 2012

VPs from a losing ticket don't win the presidency at a later date.

If Jeb runs now as VP and The Mittster loses-which he probably will-Bush is cooked.

I have no doubt he has further ambitions. But running as VP now would be suicide for him.

 

datasuspect

(26,591 posts)
15. he does have a point
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 12:04 PM
Jun 2012

third way repubs might eventually save whatever is left of the republican party after the misanthropic nincompoop tea baggers are done playing with it.

there used to be a time in this country when you could reach across the aisle for the sake of all Uhhhhmericans.

extremist partisanship wasn't always the end all, be all.

i don't play the "us vs. them" WWF version of Uhhhhmerican politics, but the tea baggers have done so much to drag our national discourse and polity into the sewer, it might take a generation for the republican party to recover once more old white people start dying off in droves.

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