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Flaxbee

(13,661 posts)
Thu May 5, 2016, 10:39 PM May 2016

Shut down the Yulin dog meat festival!

(I have edited some of the more horrific details out - I don't need to be shocked into awareness -- if you do, read the full text at the link or read further about this "festival&quot .

https://secure.avaaz.org/en/stop_the_puppy_slaughter_95/?tnCCggb


For the Yulin dog meat festival, dogs are stolen from their owners, then beaten or bled to death.

The suffering must be unbearable -- new research shows that in terms of emotion, dogs' brains are much like ours, something dog owners and lovers understand well. When we see dogs for what they are -- living beings with thoughts and feelings -- the torture they endure at this 'festival' becomes inexcusable.

Thousands of Chinese citizens have protested the festival, but authorities won’t act until they see how badly it’s hurting China’s global image, which they’ve been working hard to improve. That’s where we come in. Let’s show the Chinese government that the world is calling on them to stop this puppy slaughter immediately!

When our numbers are great enough, Avaaz will take out ads, work with influential celebrities, run the first independent national poll on dog-eating in China, and put this issue on front pages everywhere until Chinese authorities act. Add your name and tell everyone.

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Shut down the Yulin dog meat festival! (Original Post) Flaxbee May 2016 OP
I realize that this is cultural but radical noodle May 2016 #1
there's no gore at the link ... a photo of a dog (alive but tethered) Flaxbee May 2016 #2
Shark finning was only banned in California a couple of years ago KamaAina May 2016 #3
Thank you! radical noodle May 2016 #5
toss in bbq chicken pork and beef fesivals and i am with you. JanMichael May 2016 #4
I agree with you. Flaxbee May 2016 #6
This message was self-deleted by its author Liberal_in_LA May 2016 #7
Done!!! Rhiannon12866 May 2016 #8
Signed. Duppers May 2016 #9
Why do the French like horse meat? NT 1939 May 2016 #10
You tell me! Do they raise horses to eat? Duppers May 2016 #11
No 1939 May 2016 #17
Thanks. Duppers May 2016 #20
I have talked to Vietnamese 1939 May 2016 #21
Why do posters pretending to be clever answer a question with poor attempt at making a point? LanternWaste May 2016 #13
This message was self-deleted by its author GulfCoast66 May 2016 #14
Sterotype much? GulfCoast66 May 2016 #16
It depends on the sources of protein available to the population 1939 May 2016 #18
I suspect GulfCoast66 May 2016 #22
I can understand. Duppers May 2016 #19
... napkinz May 2016 #12
I recently signed another petition against this horror. MoonRiver May 2016 #15
kicking this again. effort still ongoing. Flaxbee May 2016 #23

radical noodle

(8,003 posts)
1. I realize that this is cultural but
Thu May 5, 2016, 10:47 PM
May 2016

there is no one I detest more than a person who would abuse an animal. Can I sign up without seeing the gore?

Flaxbee

(13,661 posts)
2. there's no gore at the link ... a photo of a dog (alive but tethered)
Fri May 6, 2016, 05:44 PM
May 2016

but no awful videos or anything. I can't handle those, either.

Just focus on the right side of the page and add your email address. That's it. Then the link will ask you to spread the word if you can.

Some cultural practices need to be retired. Everywhere in the world, not just China (but damn if Asia doesn't have some practices I'd like to see halted immediately - whaling, poaching for ivory and other animal parts, bear bile, shark finning, dog/cat eating....)

 

KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
3. Shark finning was only banned in California a couple of years ago
Fri May 6, 2016, 05:49 PM
May 2016

thanks to Chinese-American assemblymember Paul Fong (D-Cupertino).

radical noodle

(8,003 posts)
5. Thank you!
Fri May 6, 2016, 06:30 PM
May 2016

I will also share with my many animal loving friends, and I totally agree that some cultural practices need to cease.

JanMichael

(24,890 posts)
4. toss in bbq chicken pork and beef fesivals and i am with you.
Fri May 6, 2016, 06:27 PM
May 2016

if not then selective caring 8s bullshit.

Flaxbee

(13,661 posts)
6. I agree with you.
Mon May 9, 2016, 01:46 AM
May 2016

But this issue is about the dog meat festival. Then let's move on to the others.

And in all honesty, I can't say I totally disagree with people eating meat. What I vehemently disagree with is factory farming, gross overeating of meat and gluttonous indulgence, and the hideousness of slaughterhouses. If an animal is humanely raised and treated with dignity and kindness during its life, and then killed with absolutely no pain, while I won't partake, I wouldn't be as revulsed as I am by humankind's meat-eating culture.

Response to JanMichael (Reply #4)

Rhiannon12866

(205,595 posts)
8. Done!!!
Mon May 9, 2016, 02:54 AM
May 2016

My parents visited China back in 1985 and when they passed through a marketplace there were cages that had once held dogs. My mother was so upset - even though she hadn't seen anything but the cages - that she was still freaked out after they came home. And she wasn't even the biggest animal lover in my family, that was my Dad. What a horrible thing...

Duppers

(28,125 posts)
11. You tell me! Do they raise horses to eat?
Mon May 9, 2016, 08:43 AM
May 2016

I've traveled in China for 6 weeks. DH has been there 3xs; we have a dear Chinese friend. I only report what I know.

So, eating horse meat is equivalent to a general lack of empathy for animals, sez you?

1939

(1,683 posts)
17. No
Mon May 9, 2016, 03:27 PM
May 2016

What I am saying is that different cultures have culinary traditions that sort out animals as "meat" or as "beloved pets" in different ways than the United States.

Even within a culture, some classes of the population agree with the choice of an animal as "meat" while others look down on it.

1939

(1,683 posts)
21. I have talked to Vietnamese
Mon May 9, 2016, 08:42 PM
May 2016

who are disgusted that we eat rabbits and squirrels, but see no problem with the underclass in their country chowing down on Fluffy..

When the Pacific Islanders set out to populate Micronesia, they took along chickens, pigs, and dogs. As you get to various islands, apparently some had deaths on the way in their canoes as some islands have all three, some have chickens and dogs, some have pigs and dogs, and some have pigs and chickens.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
13. Why do posters pretending to be clever answer a question with poor attempt at making a point?
Mon May 9, 2016, 11:33 AM
May 2016

Why do posters pretending to be clever answer a question with poor attempt at making a point?

Response to Duppers (Reply #9)

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
16. Sterotype much?
Mon May 9, 2016, 12:38 PM
May 2016

Perhaps because many of them remember a time of starvation. If you were watching your child starve to death Fido is on the menu.

And if over the generations you regularly have to resort to that measure it loses its repulsiveness.

1939

(1,683 posts)
18. It depends on the sources of protein available to the population
Mon May 9, 2016, 03:34 PM
May 2016

Rice or corn are much poorer sources of protein than wheat. Asian and Native American populations then turned to other domestic animals for their protein. Europeans and Middle Easterners had wheat and ample grazing land for herds of cattle which allowed the Israelis and Arabs to disdain the pig as a source of meat. The most protein deficient societies often turned to "long pig" (cannibalism).



GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
22. I suspect
Mon May 9, 2016, 08:54 PM
May 2016

You share my crazy love of finding ecological explanations to current or past realities. I assume you have read Ecological Imperialism?

MoonRiver

(36,926 posts)
15. I recently signed another petition against this horror.
Mon May 9, 2016, 12:36 PM
May 2016

It is heartbreaking how cruel and stupid most of humanity is.

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