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KamaAina

(78,249 posts)
Thu May 5, 2016, 11:37 PM May 2016

Duggar-Linked Ministry Building A ‘Retreat’ Where Christian Dads Can Trade Their Teen Daughters

Not. The. Onion.

http://www.addictinginfo.org/2016/05/05/duggar-linked-ministry-building-a-retreat-where-christian-dads-can-trade-their-teen-daughters/

It’s becoming increasingly clear that when TLC decided to promote a story of the fundamentalist Christian Duggar family, they weren’t just idolizing right-wing anti-gay bigots, they were legitimizing a toxic cult that for years had lived in the shadows and now – thanks to increasing exposure – has begun to fester and grow.

“Quiverfull,” the fundamentalist movement run by a man named Vaughn Ohlman, works to silence and control women in ways that wouldn’t seem entirely out of place in regions controlled by the Taliban. Its “pitch” is that women should be subservient to their husbands, and relied on primarily for household chores and churning out babies. (The “full” quiver in the name is a nod to the number of children each family is encouraged to have – as many as possible.)...

Enter Ohlman’s brand new “retreat” designed specifically for Christian dads to meet up and plan who they will give their daughters to, particularly troublesome ones who may be nearly out of high school and haven’t found a husband yet....

“Unforeseen contingencies” might include the fact that nowhere in Let Them Marry Ministries’ lengthy post is the consent of the children ever acknowledged. “Let them marry” really means “let us marry them off.”


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Duggar-Linked Ministry Building A ‘Retreat’ Where Christian Dads Can Trade Their Teen Daughters (Original Post) KamaAina May 2016 OP
There is no difference between these people and the Taliban. None. Initech May 2016 #1
No difference at all. linuxman May 2016 #3
As young as 13 is illegal. Kalidurga May 2016 #2
Ugh, aggregators are the worst. Addicting Info cribbed Raw Story's very incorrect story. LeftyMom May 2016 #4
ugh Liberal_in_LA May 2016 #5

Initech

(100,085 posts)
1. There is no difference between these people and the Taliban. None.
Thu May 5, 2016, 11:41 PM
May 2016

They get their underwear in a wad over the fact that a trans person might need to take a piss, on the grounds that a "sex crime" might take place (which, um, has never happened ever in the history of man), but they see no problem with sex trading, child rape, and overpopulation. Dennis Hastert rapes kids and he gets letters of encouragement saying he's a "man of God". I think even Jesus is saying "fuck this shit" at this point.

 

linuxman

(2,337 posts)
3. No difference at all.
Fri May 6, 2016, 12:17 AM
May 2016

Except you know,

Marrying and raping 10 year olds
Killing gays
Killing anyone who damages their honor
Cutting off heads of rivals, apostates,non-believers, slightly different yet wrong believers, not as strong believers, etc...
Being the main pillar of the heroin trade
Fucking little boys as a matter of custom (see bachi-bazi)
Throwing acid in womens' faces
Disfiguring girls who reject their advances
Putting bombs on kids and sending them to markets
Orchestrating international acts of terror claiming tens of thousands of lives
Doing everything in their power to bring Afghanisan back to the glory days of the mid 90's
Using the the Olympic pool to massacre people in
Indiscriminately blowing up VBIEDs, maiming innocent men, women, and children
Destroying priceless, ancient works of art


Yep, it's a regular warzone here in the US, what with those Christians run-amok.

No difference at all. No-siree.

Before you give me the ol' "They would if they got power!", bear in mind the Taliban has not been in power for going on 15 years now.

Fundies suck, but you'd have to be completely divorced from reality to believe they are the same, or even close to the Taliban.

Kalidurga

(14,177 posts)
2. As young as 13 is illegal.
Thu May 5, 2016, 11:45 PM
May 2016

Unless they are in New Hampshire. Gebus they need to get on that wtf New Hampshire 13 years old kids can't even drive yet.

LeftyMom

(49,212 posts)
4. Ugh, aggregators are the worst. Addicting Info cribbed Raw Story's very incorrect story.
Fri May 6, 2016, 12:36 AM
May 2016


So here's what that article is wrong about:

1. The event is already canceled. The Salvation Army owns the camp where it was to be held and their response reads something like "not only no but hell no" only in Christianese.

2. Quiverful is not a movement, per se. It's a belief that pops up in a lot of different denominations and movements, promoted by a few different parachurch ministries. Ohlman's is just one of many parachurch ministries catering to socially conservative QF families. I don't know of any evidence the Duggars even know of the guy. As far as I can tell from his online presence he's a Calvinist of some sort (Presbyterian I'd guess, but not totally sure) and a Rushdoony enthusiast. The Duggars are Baptists, and the QF group they're associated with is ATI, so their cult leader is Bill Gothard. Namedropping them all over the story is either a sign that the writer knows next to nothing about fundamentalists or a sign that the writer is willing to lie shamelessly for clicks. I'm not sure which is more concerning.

3. I'm pretty familiar with these circles (I read their blogs and listen to their radio shows because I have weird hobbies) and I've never heard anybody interview or namecheck this guy. He has a blog, and a self-published book, but he doesn't seem to be any kind of a big deal. He has 51 followers on Facebook, which is less than a lot of my friend's pets' accounts. By contrast Kevin Swanson is about three times crazier and is a legitimately big deal in the same circles, so don't think these people reject this guy for being too out there. But giving him free publicity seems like bad strategy because he's currently somewhere between marginal and invisible, and the circles he travels in are likely to see criticism (and especially wildly inaccurate criticism) by the mean ol' librrul media as a sign that he's onto something.
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