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You will often hear conservatives say, "We can't have a school system like Finland's because we have immigrants," or "We can't fix childhood poverty, because we have so many immigrants," or "the Scandinavian countries can have such a high standard of living because they don't have immigrants."
Complete nonsense.
According to a UN report from 2015, the percentage of immigrants in various populations is:
The U.S. 14.3%
Sweden also 14.3%
Denmark 9.0%
Norway 13.1%
Finland 5.09%
Iceland 10.46%
The stereotype of the Nordic countries being homogeneous lands of blue-eyed blonds is way out of date. And as you would know if you had been there recently, most of the immigrants in Scandinavia are from the Middle East, Africa, or Southeast Asia.
Furthermore, Canada has a whopping 20% immigrant population and a lower child poverty rate than we do. Australia, New Zealand, and Ireland also have a higher percentage of immigrants in their populations than the U.S. does. Germany, the UK, and France are all over 10%. They also have lower child poverty rates, although the UK is catching up since the Conservatives took over.
You have to use a different excuse for our child poverty rate, especially since so many of the nation's poor children are natural born American citizens from Appalachia, industrial towns deserted by corporate America, Indian reservations, African-American ghettos, and other pockets of poverty.
Oh, by the way, isn't it just a little bit racist to blame our social problems on immigrants, most of whom are hard-working, law-abiding individuals?
dembotoz
(16,808 posts)Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)First of all, even bona fide refugees get a whole three months of subsidies before they're expected to be on their own.
If they're legal, they can receive benefits on the same basis as American citizens, and like American citizens, they can't get welfare just by walking into the welfare office and saying, "I don't want to work."
Illegal immigrants are not eligible for any kind of benefits, not welfare, not unemployment, not food stamps, not Section 8 housing.
There are two minor exceptions:
1. Children of illegal immigrants are eligible to attend school. This is actually a good thing. They learn English, and they aren't hanging out on street corners or staying home unsupervised.
2. Due to the requirement that emergency rooms take everyone, illegal immigrants can be treated in hospital ERs. However, like every other uninsured user of an emergency room, they are billed. If, like some legal citizens, they give a fake address, then the hospital will not be able to track them down. Still, this is better than having sick people spreading communicable diseases or having injured people bleed to death in public.
pampango
(24,692 posts)Conservatives do not let facts like how progressive countries all over the world have even more than the country that prides itself on being the land of immigrants. And these progressive countries maintain strong middle classes and effective safety nets.
Lydia Leftcoast
(48,217 posts)they see people who don't look or act like them moving into the community.
The prejudice against Somalis here in Minneapolis is huge, so much so that the local paper does not allow comments on any article having to do with the Somalis.
There is racism in Europe as well, but the major parties don't encourage it.