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marmar

(77,081 posts)
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 01:10 PM Jun 2012

Talking about masturbation causes grave harm, according to the Holy See


(TIME) As if the Vatican weren’t already knee-deep in scandals, the Holy See is now at odds with a group of American nuns over one sister’s book on sexuality. Demurely titled Just Love: A Framework for Christian Sexual Ethics, Sister Margaret Farley’s 2006 treatise has nevertheless drawn the ire of the Vatican’s orthodoxy office, which said Monday that the work poses “grave harm” to the Catholic flock for its comparatively progressive positions on homosexuality and masturbation, among other issues.

Farley told the Associated Press that she never meant for the book to reflect official Catholic teaching but, instead, wanted to explore sexuality across religions, theological doctrines and human experience.

A prominent theologian and professor emeritus at Yale’s School of Divinity, Farley is a member of the Sisters of Mercy religious order, a group represented by the Leadership Conference of Women Religious (LCWR) — the largest organization of American nuns.

The indictment is the latest flashpoint in a years-long conflict between the Vatican and the LCWR—a group that the church has characterized as “radically feminist”—and comes just days after the LCWR publicly challenged a recent two-year-long investigation of its activities by the Vatican. .................(more)

The complete piece is at: http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/06/06/a-nuns-guide-to-sex-the-latest-vatican-scandal/#ixzz1x4RB1ZaG



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Talking about masturbation causes grave harm, according to the Holy See (Original Post) marmar Jun 2012 OP
Causes grave harm? To the institution claiming LaurenG Jun 2012 #1
But it doesn't seem to await get the red out Jun 2012 #9
So don't talk about it, just do it! Wounded Bear Jun 2012 #2
Since those old boys have forsworn sex and any contact with women Warpy Jun 2012 #3
A nun with her own opinions? Heaven forfend! aquart Jun 2012 #4
Not to mention the possibility of a self pleasuring nun! yellowcanine Jun 2012 #15
He must be correct, being resounding silent over child-raping priests decades worked... rustydog Jun 2012 #5
Don't do that! In the argot of the junkie, you just have to stop. . . Journeyman Jun 2012 #6
And talking about child rape causes grave harm as well... hughee99 Jun 2012 #7
I find it ironic that a church that is so out of touch with the world around it Angry Dragon Jun 2012 #8
Spank the Monkey, Jerk off, wank off, beat off, bash the bishop, choke the chicken, flog the log, yellowcanine Jun 2012 #10
Talking about mastubation leads to talking about going blind cthulu2016 Jun 2012 #11
Not to mention hairy palm discussions. yellowcanine Jun 2012 #14
"I'll quit when I need glasses!" LongTomH Jun 2012 #18
The Holy See causes grave harm. Orsino Jun 2012 #12
It is so much better just to lie about it...... yellowcanine Jun 2012 #13
To hell with talking about it - where do you think the phrase "Just Do It" came from? HopeHoops Jun 2012 #16
The Clan of the Red Beanie hifiguy Jun 2012 #17
Isn't masturbation evil because it prevents you from having kids? 4th law of robotics Jun 2012 #19

Warpy

(111,273 posts)
3. Since those old boys have forsworn sex and any contact with women
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 01:17 PM
Jun 2012

perhaps it's time for the combined Catholic laity to tell them to shut the fuck up about things they know nothing about.

The Catholic laity is already wise enough to ignore their silly pronouncements on sex and reproduction choices.

aquart

(69,014 posts)
4. A nun with her own opinions? Heaven forfend!
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 01:18 PM
Jun 2012

I mean, why masturbate when there are altar boys?

Yes, that was just mean. I feel mean.

Angry Dragon

(36,693 posts)
8. I find it ironic that a church that is so out of touch with the world around it
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 01:35 PM
Jun 2012

that they are afraid of a little touching of oneself


The Catholic Church claims that their god created humans. So it would follow that god created orgasms so people could enjoy one of his creations.

yellowcanine

(35,699 posts)
10. Spank the Monkey, Jerk off, wank off, beat off, bash the bishop, choke the chicken, flog the log,
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 02:04 PM
Jun 2012

Pleasure yourself, beat the meat, whack off, etc. Much harm done yet?

 

hifiguy

(33,688 posts)
17. The Clan of the Red Beanie
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 05:20 PM
Jun 2012

(tip of the hat to Esquire's Charlie Pierce) is perilously close to disappearing up its own fundament. May that day arrive soon.

 

4th law of robotics

(6,801 posts)
19. Isn't masturbation evil because it prevents you from having kids?
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 06:33 PM
Jun 2012

Or rather, is done in place of sex that could produce children?

I thought that was the angle they were coming at on this.

If so that means it ought to be ok for nuns/priests to masturbate since they are forbidden to have children* anyway.

*which ultimately stems not from the Bible or any of Jesus' teachings but from a 12th century decree intended to keep church property within the church rather than disseminating it via inheritances.

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