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This is a big "if," but IF it is demonstrated 100%, no wiggle room, that he actually ever put on a state police uniform and pulled anyone over then he cannot remain the Republican nominee.
That is "if." I. F.
We are talking about a very serious crime that people will take seriously. It is one of those crimes that is both serious, legally, and also universally associated in the public mind with being insane.
I am not predicting Romney will go down for this. It's hearsay. But if it gets to the point of Romney having to talk about why he did it, rather than whether, I can't see his candidacy being viable.
But, as with all such things, the ability of Republicans to overlook "youthful indiscretions" is great and any wiggle room is probably enough.
When I read about this story I automatically pictured the victims being young white women driving alone, because the crime is so associated with serial rapists, and that seemed to me who Mitt would get off on terrorizing. I also considered him pulling over men who reminded him of his father. So it took me longer than it probably should have to ask myself this question.
What race were the people he was pulling over? (If we were talking about George Allen the question would answer itself.)
Indydem
(2,642 posts)What happens in the youth of a candidate is really not that important; Americans are forgiving and they don't particularly care if you played a prank dressed up like a cop, or did cocaine and smoke marijuana; they care about what you've done with your life.
Rmoney on the other hand, has been a vulture capitalist, fucked up Massachusetts while governor, and has no way to relate to the rest of America.
Let's focus on the real issues rather than what he did or did not do when he was a fucking kid.
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)so you can just cut with the "what he did as a kid" shit. IF he actually went around with a Michigan State Troopers uniform on and pulled people over, you can bet your butt he did it as an adult- and it does count.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)twisted bunch
notadmblnd
(23,720 posts)maybe he stole it? You think he is above stealing? I don't.
tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)The stoy say "he got it from his father", not his father gave it to him.
TexasTowelie
(112,251 posts)tk2kewl
(18,133 posts)cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)If this is TRUE (I have no idea) then it is a better reason to vote against somebody as President than anything that happened at Bain.
Lot's of people know someone who did drugs or fathered a baby out of wedlock or cheated on a test.
Very few people know anyone who dressed up as a cop for the purpose of pulling people over, and of the few who do know someone like that also know that that person was the scariest, most fucked-up person they ever knew.
yoyossarian
(1,054 posts)Or should've been, anyway...
Marie Marie
(9,999 posts)Or should be, anyway...
Marr
(20,317 posts)It's fucking creepy as hell, and about 20 miles past the point of being a "prank".
yoyossarian
(1,054 posts)I probably even drove around once or twice going "WHOO WHOO WHOO!", in the relative privacy of my car, pretending I was a police car or a fire engine or suchlike... probably...
But I NEVER dressed up like a cop and pulled people over.
Cuz I'm NOT insane.
Just rather silly at times.
jeff47
(26,549 posts)It's far more effective than talking about Bain and his time as MA governor. Making those arguments requires facts and figures, and will be rebutted with facts and figures from the Republicans, and requires an electorate willing to pay enough attention to understand who's figures are correct and what they mean.
On the other hand, "Mitt is really creepy" is very, very easy to get across to low-information voters.
mittromneyisatool
(4 posts)Agreed. That's our whole mission: getting low-information voters engaged. Obviously, we chose "Mitt Romney is a tool".
Voice for Peace
(13,141 posts)and there may be voters for whom such a "prank" would make a difference.
How do cops in general feel about people impersonating them and pulling people over?
Do they think it's a funny prank?
sinkingfeeling
(51,460 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)drugs.
Also which of the two different kinds of behavior is more common, similar to other people's average behaviors, and which is pretty damned unusual and similar to what other more rare kinds of behaviors and what are those behaviors, e.g. psychotic behaviors, with the difference being pretty much a matter of degree.
Segami
(14,923 posts)Who did he stop?
Where did he stop them?
Were they women or men?
Did he ask for their ID or License?
What reason did he give for stopping them?
When did he conduct these stops, daytime or evening?
HOW MANY TIMES DID HE VENTURE OUT IMPERSONATING HIMSELF AS A COP? I imagine that after his first Cop-dress up Super-rush, he was embolden to repeat it once again? Why let a good cop uniform go to waste?
Oh, and BTW, couple such acts along with a serious bully assault on a gay student and you have a pattern of a real disturbed individual with issues.
nadinbrzezinski
(154,021 posts)it can rise to the level of felony.
I guess it's ok... it's a republican.
treestar
(82,383 posts)It's not a cute prank or something a lot of teen did, like smoke mj or do coke. This is not something "normal" teens do.
geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)Most folks are not gonna believe that a kid not old enough to shave is a state trooper.
Uncle Joe
(58,366 posts)against his will.
Mairead
(9,557 posts)coming from work. I was stunned by how young he was, but his uniform and cruiser certainly looked real enough to me. (He was apparently trolling for dates because he let me go immediately.)
cthulu2016
(10,960 posts)geckosfeet
(9,644 posts)I suspect that most troopers these days have gone through a four year academy or military police training. I just can't believe that anyone would believe that turd was really a trooper.
Ian David
(69,059 posts)patrice
(47,992 posts)EOTE
(13,409 posts)But given that sanity seems to be in extremely short supply in this country, I'm somewhat doubting your assertion. I hope beyond hope that what you say is true, I'm just not entirely convinced.
sandyshoes17
(657 posts)I worked with a guy years ago who was arrested for that same thing. He had a badge, not a uniform, and was pulling people over, mostly young girls. Someone took the badge number and called the station. Cops take that very seriously, he was charged with impersonating an officer and a few other charges. I would think it would be worse with state police.
K8-EEE
(15,667 posts)And I'm sure he's gotten away with a lot -- the rich tend to do that, you know?
summerschild
(725 posts)the account I read said he had the uniform laid out on his bed in his college dorm to show it off. If true, he did it in high school and wagged it to college with him. I've no idea if those accounts are true - if so, he's one weird puppy.
I totally believe he commandeered the high school "hair cut", and he was plenty old enough to know better. That was pure meanness and bullying.
Funny the reports from his neighbors surfaced just yesterday, reporting his complaints to the police about kids drinking and smoking on "his" beach at his new vacation home.
Jeez, all his life he's had to keep all this riff-raff under control!
cali
(114,904 posts)and those thinking it will are kidding themselves.
Wise Child
(180 posts)Police officer costume with smiling Romney mask.
I would assume that some novelty company will make a Romney rubber mask. Just add goofy looking officer's uniform and "ROMNEY" name tag. This would be great.