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MADem

(135,425 posts)
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:01 PM May 2016

Harry Reid to Rep. Alan Grayson: 'I want you to lose'

Rep. Alan Grayson angrily confronted Senate Minority Leader Harry Reid on Wednesday, disrupting a meeting of the Congressional Progressive Caucus in front of dozens of staffers and members of Congress.
Grayson (D-Fla.), whose bid for the open Florida Senate seat Reid vehemently opposes, arrived at the meeting with Reid’s February statement in hand, according to two sources in the room. In that statement, Reid said Grayson has “no moral compass” and “used his status as a congressman to unethically promote his Cayman Islands hedge funds.”

As each member took a turn to speak to Reid, it was Grayson’s turn. He asked Reid if the Nevada senator knows who he is. After Reid answered in the affirmative, Grayson went on the attack.
“Say my name, senator. Say my name,” Grayson told Reid as Rep. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) tried to shut down the confrontation. Ellison chided Grayson, asking him what he was doing and why he was distracting from the meeting’s goals.
Grayson responded by angrily waving a printout of Reid’s searing quote that called on Grayson to drop out of the primary race against Rep. Patrick Murphy (D-Fla.).
“Why’d you say that?” Grayson said, insisting Reid’s statement was false.
Reid calmly faced his inquisitor: “I want you to lose. It’s true.”


.....“The Progressive Caucus is a place to fight for progressive values, not fight for Alan Grayson’s narcissistic desire to hear someone say his name,” Murphy said.



Read more: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/05/harry-reid-alan-grayson-fight-223081#ixzz48OmzRSZr



I smell toast!
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Harry Reid to Rep. Alan Grayson: 'I want you to lose' (Original Post) MADem May 2016 OP
here you go dlwickham May 2016 #1
Went through my mind, as well!!!! nt MADem May 2016 #2
LOL dlwickham May 2016 #3
Reid is a badass Renew Deal May 2016 #4
Cool, determined, and oh-so-savvy. No one messes with Harry. He's a real-life tough guy. nt MADem May 2016 #6
It's "badass" to want Florida Dems to nominate a conservative(a "centrist" is a conservative)? Ken Burch May 2016 #10
A far-left liberal firebrand who happens to be a loose-cannon can not win Florida Reter May 2016 #13
Your post is a great example of the problems with purity tests Renew Deal May 2016 #14
So it doesn't matter that Murphy doesn't stand for much of anything that's progressive? Ken Burch May 2016 #17
Of course his ideology matters. These candidates run Hortensis May 2016 #19
I wish that was on video madville May 2016 #5
lol Renew Deal May 2016 #7
The worst thing about Grayson is RandySF May 2016 #8
I wonder what Dena Minning sees in him. MADem May 2016 #9
One of Bernie's buddies, bringing that Flea Party mentality to the Progressive Caucus. Yay? IamMab May 2016 #11
When the guy loses Ellison, who is the soul of kindness, he's lost the bubble. nt MADem May 2016 #12
Harry Reid is a true blue dog, Grayson is a True Leftist coffeeAM May 2016 #15
Nah, guys who beat their wives aren't true leftists. blue neen May 2016 #16
Do we now have proof that he beat his wife? Chan790 May 2016 #18
From the Orlando Sentinel: blue neen May 2016 #22
Link? trumad May 2016 #20
Here's one: blue neen May 2016 #21
LOL trumad May 2016 #23
You asked for a link. Period. I gave you one. blue neen May 2016 #24
I'm laughing at you for believing one side of a story. trumad May 2016 #25
This is what I found looking on the net: LostOne4Ever May 2016 #27
Thank you! sheshe2 May 2016 #26
I think you could argue that True Leftists don't run Cayman Island hedge funds nemo137 May 2016 #28
 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
10. It's "badass" to want Florida Dems to nominate a conservative(a "centrist" is a conservative)?
Wed May 11, 2016, 10:14 PM
May 2016

It's "badass" to want a Democratic Senator from Florida who is going to spend most of his time voting against anything any Democratic president wants, and against anything significantly different from what Republicans want(as Murphy generally did in the House)?

What good does it do to elect somebody as a Democrat who defines himself, as Murphy always has and always will, by how many times he votes to the right of the vast majority of the Democratic Party?

It's not as though Murphy could get any more votes in the fall than Grayson. In Florida, if you're a voter who agrees with the Republicans on any significant number of issues, you aren't going to vote for ANY Democratic candidate.

 

Reter

(2,188 posts)
13. A far-left liberal firebrand who happens to be a loose-cannon can not win Florida
Wed May 11, 2016, 10:25 PM
May 2016

So yes, I want to win.

Renew Deal

(81,866 posts)
14. Your post is a great example of the problems with purity tests
Wed May 11, 2016, 10:33 PM
May 2016

All a person has to do is check off the ideological checkboxes and their acts are irrelevant. Grayson is a guy that should be repulsive to true "progressives." He's an ethically challenged Cayman Islands hedge fund managing millionaire that allegedly got physical with his wife.

He's the kind of person Democrats and "progressives" should run away from, but integrity isn't as important as politics to some people. It's hypocrisy that leaves a blind spot for people like Grayson.

 

Ken Burch

(50,254 posts)
17. So it doesn't matter that Murphy doesn't stand for much of anything that's progressive?
Thu May 12, 2016, 04:21 AM
May 2016

OK, he's probably pro-choice, but in isolation that isn't much of anything. It's worthless to elect someone as a Democrat if they are against us as often as they are with us.

Murphy has never been with us on much of anything but issues that don't threaten the rich.

We don't HAVE to revive the right wing of the party to get a Democratic Senate.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
19. Of course his ideology matters. These candidates run
Thu May 12, 2016, 05:11 AM
May 2016

themselves, though, and this time there is just no good choice on the Democratic side. And, of course, the GOP side is absolutely terrible, making Murphy look positively leftish by comparison.

But remember the issue of character? SBSers are constantly attacking Hillary on character, but it's not right to consider this loose flywheel down in Florida's? So-called "principles" that are used like brass knuckles on some while others get a pass are not principles and need to be examined.

As for Grayson, the FDP's record in who they support and why does not seem impressive, and normally I might ignore their position and feel that the strong left candidate would be the obvious choice, even if flawed.

However, Harry Reid's an entirely different matter. Reid is a liberal and a progressive, an extremely competent one trying to elect a Democratic Senate majority, and he's trying to keep Alan Grayson from running for a Senate seat that could well go blue. We may not know all the reasons so many party leaders want Grayson out of the race, but for sure Reid does. In any case, the likelihood that the GOP would slice and dice a man with such a questionable record in the general would be enough by itself.

madville

(7,412 posts)
5. I wish that was on video
Wed May 11, 2016, 09:12 PM
May 2016

Would be hilarious to see, you can tell Harry is retiring, he's speaking honestly lol

RandySF

(58,935 posts)
8. The worst thing about Grayson is
Wed May 11, 2016, 10:01 PM
May 2016

You can ask him if he stopped beating his wife and could actually answer.

MADem

(135,425 posts)
9. I wonder what Dena Minning sees in him.
Wed May 11, 2016, 10:05 PM
May 2016

I think she hooked up with him for his access; if he's "out of the club" I wonder if this "engagement" will ever result in a church visit!

 

IamMab

(1,359 posts)
11. One of Bernie's buddies, bringing that Flea Party mentality to the Progressive Caucus. Yay?
Wed May 11, 2016, 10:22 PM
May 2016

Now I hope Grayson loses too.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
18. Do we now have proof that he beat his wife?
Thu May 12, 2016, 04:34 AM
May 2016

I ask because I genuinely don't know, haven't been following the story for some time, and the last I heard it had been discredited.

If that changed, I want to know...I liked Alan but I despise perpetrators of domestic violence.

 

trumad

(41,692 posts)
23. LOL
Thu May 12, 2016, 07:05 PM
May 2016

He wife says. That's your fucking proof? I live in Orlando and for you to say the Orlando Slantenel in reputable is laughable.

blue neen

(12,322 posts)
24. You asked for a link. Period. I gave you one.
Thu May 12, 2016, 09:43 PM
May 2016

Sorry that you don't like the link or the source.

My mom lived in Orlando, too, until she died of Parkinson's Disease. The nature of that horrible illness, including the brain surgeries, paralysis, rehabs, nursing homes, etc. necessitated my living in Orlando quite a bit of the time to help with her care. It was a very lonely time, and one of the things I looked forward to was reading the daily paper, The Sentinel. Maybe it's not the Boston Globe, but I got plenty of news out of it.

My mom lived in Alan Grayson's district. My step-father was there when Grayson gave out blank pieces of paper saying that was the "Republican's health care plan". My step-father also volunteered for Grayson's campaign. Not anymore.

It seems there has been quite a bit of negative news about Alan Grayson, too much for it to just be rumor. It is out there if you want to find it.

Now, go find someone else to laugh at.

LostOne4Ever

(9,289 posts)
27. This is what I found looking on the net:
Fri May 13, 2016, 03:35 AM
May 2016
http://www.mediaite.com/tv/alan-grayson-releases-video-of-alleged-domestic-dispute-with-wife-she-hit-me/

http://articles.orlandosentinel.com/2014-03-12/news/os-alan-grayson-no-arrest-domestic-violence-20140307_1_u-s-congressman-play-date-congressman-grayson

http://www.cbsnews.com/news/rep-alan-grayson-wont-be-charged-after-domestic-violence-allegation/

[font style="font-family:'Georgia','Baskerville Old Face','Helvetica',fantasy;" size=4 color=#009999]This includes both a a video of the incident and the Grayson's daughter disputing the mothers claim. Not to mention a recording from her 911 call in which she flat out says he didn't touch her.[/font]

nemo137

(3,297 posts)
28. I think you could argue that True Leftists don't run Cayman Island hedge funds
Fri May 13, 2016, 11:27 AM
May 2016

Really, how anyone could see Grayson as anything other than an influence-peddling cartoon of a congresscritter after that, I don't know.

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