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Scuba

(53,475 posts)
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 04:58 PM Jun 2012

Bankers or democracy and the nation state? Which is it to be?

http://www.taxresearch.org.uk/Blog/2012/06/07/bankers-or-democracy-and-the-nation-state-which-is-it-to-be/



Spanish banks are now recognised to be broke. If we are candid, so too are the UK’s banks. Tim Bush at PIRC reckons their undisclosed losses are between £40bn and £80bn, and knowing Tim as I do I am sure he is right. Portugal is bailing out banks.

The Irish have voted to accept austerity, a loss of sovereignty, the exodus of their young and the loss of hope which has always been such a part of their national narrative.

And still those in power don’t get it. Merkel insists against all logic that all Europe can be like Germany. Osborne demands that we have austerity even though it has obviously failed to deliver growth and jobs. The bankers demand investment from the government and cuts in spending, all at the same time. The incoherence is palpable.

And throughout it all things just get worse. As self interest is the dominant and prevailing sentiment (indeed, some would argue, the only acceptable logic in economic theory; although that’s wrong) Germany with the capacity to pay for its mistakes (and it was its mistake to lend to the indebted nations and its mistake to not require the Euro area to clear its debts) is refusing to accept its duty to bear the cost of those mistakes. And its similar refusal to allow the creation of new money has much the same effect: its phobia about inflation is demanding in its place the sacrifice of nationhood and democracy to that paranoia. We’ve been here before. And what is sickening is that there are alternatives.

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Bankers or democracy and the nation state? Which is it to be? (Original Post) Scuba Jun 2012 OP
fear of inflation abelenkpe Jun 2012 #1

abelenkpe

(9,933 posts)
1. fear of inflation
Thu Jun 7, 2012, 07:03 PM
Jun 2012

Instead the people should all labor to erase the fictional worth of financial debt products with no new money and no new credit. It's impossible.

Like this bit from the article:

Of course, even more effectively, the Bank of England could lend directly to the Treasury, cutting out the commercial bank middle-man that is simply enriching a few at cost to the vast majority and making the consequences of this crisis so much worse in the process. And that is what should be happening in the EU as well. To argue that there is no money is absurd: money is costless to create and need carry no interest rate. If that is what we’re short of at this moment it is a travesty that we’ll put human rights at risk to preserve banker’s margins.

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