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niyad

(113,552 posts)
Sat May 21, 2016, 06:33 PM May 2016

I was raped in the navy – and then discharged for a 'personality disorder' (but, NO war on women!!)

(and we continue having to pay for the rapists and their enablers in this rotten system)

I was raped in the navy – and then discharged for a 'personality disorder'


For many years this diagnosis was the fastest way for a commander to get someone out of service. It almost ruined my life


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‘Lawmakers have long been aware of the problem but have not made it any easier for veterans to have their records changed.’ Photograph: MC1 Martin Wright/US navy/EPA



Watching the twin towers fall on 9/11 as a high school student instilled in me a desire to serve my country. As soon as I graduated in 2002, I joined the navy. Initially I thrived. In boot camp I was one of the top four in my class and was given the “shipmate” award for exemplifying the ideal shipmate. I loved the navy and looked forward to a long military career.

My situation changed after I rejected the advances of my master chief. Shipmates told me that he was looking for me to make a mistake so he could kick me out of “his” navy. When I was raped by a marine not long afterward, I did not report it for fear of what would happen since I was already labeled a troublemaker.

My problems did not end when I deployed to the Red Sea in support of Operation Enduring Freedom. The environment was hostile and tense. I was raped two more times and abused in other ways by my shipmates and supervisors. Once I fell asleep in a meeting after taking sedatives prescribed by the ship’s doctor to help me cope with news that my brother had been shot. My shipmates sprayed me with aircraft cleaner and set me on fire with a lighter. I escaped serious injury, but when I complained, my supervisor told me I was overreacting to a prank.

I was given a new assignment on the ship but my immediate supervisor there groped my breast and made inappropriate sexual comments. My complaints went nowhere and the assaults continued. After a while I could not tolerate it so I requested an audience with a commander to tell him what was happening and request a transfer. Instead of getting any help, I was ordered to work the night shift with my tormentor. When I refused, I was ordered to stand at attention for six to eight hours a day for five days with breaks only to use the bathroom or eat. People walked by and called me a slut.

A sympathetic senior enlisted person who saw the tears running down my face told me to speak to a chaplain. I did and the next day I was told to pack my things. Within days I was sent to be processed out of the service. There I learned that I was being discharged for having a “personality disorder”. My commander told me they were “doing me a favor” and that this discharge was the only way to get off the ship. They also told me it would not have any ramifications. They were wrong.

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http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/may/19/navy-female-shipmates-discharge-labeled-personality-disorder-rape-discrimination

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I was raped in the navy – and then discharged for a 'personality disorder' (but, NO war on women!!) (Original Post) niyad May 2016 OP
Recommended. If this was the only report of its kind it would still be too much. guillaumeb May 2016 #1
please see this thread on whistleblowers about sexual assault in the military: niyad May 2016 #2
And these types of less than honorable discharges guillaumeb May 2016 #4
A disproportionate number of female servicemembers receive this type discharge: Here are statistics Jeffersons Ghost May 2016 #10
thank you for that additional information. niyad May 2016 #16
This message was self-deleted by its author carolinayellowdog May 2016 #3
fucking navy. Ilsa May 2016 #5
don't forget--it was only a prank, and she was overreacting. niyad May 2016 #6
I heard they recruit from Ilsa May 2016 #8
This message was self-deleted by its author mrr303am May 2016 #7
Immediately after first assault, you should have gone to the SARC yeoman6987 May 2016 #9
that is very kind, but please note that I did not write that piece. however, I knew a lot niyad May 2016 #17
And if Trump is elected POTUS mrr303am May 2016 #11
I couldn't imagine being a young female in the military madville May 2016 #12
I wasn't raped but... SusanLarson May 2016 #13
K&R ismnotwasm May 2016 #14
I've spent hours today reading this excellent series of articles: renate May 2016 #15
thank you for the links. it astonishes me that the hate-zette has done something so niyad May 2016 #18
. . . . niyad May 2016 #19

guillaumeb

(42,641 posts)
4. And these types of less than honorable discharges
Sat May 21, 2016, 06:50 PM
May 2016

have also been used for PTSD victims to deny VA accessibility. The Nation had a series on this some time ago.

Cover up the problem and deny benefits to the victims. Blaming the victim instead of attacking the problem.

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
10. A disproportionate number of female servicemembers receive this type discharge: Here are statistics
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:20 PM
May 2016
Servicemembers Lose Benefits after Improper Discharges for Alleged Personality Disorders

WASHINGTON — The U.S. military continues to use improper processes to diagnose significant numbers of servicemembers with pre-existing personality disorders (PD) and then discharge them, according to government documents obtained by an advocacy group.

The Vietnam Veterans of America (VVA) cited new documents released from DoD under the Freedom of Information Act to show the problem is continuing and may be increasing. Personality disorders are considered pre-existing conditions, and servicemembers discharged with those diagnoses are ineligible for financial or medical benefits.

VVA and other veterans’ advocates have spent years advocating reform of DoD’s procedure for identifying and diagnosing PD, contending the disorder can be confused with service-connected mental-health conditions. They also maintain that improper diagnosis of PD has cut hundreds, perhaps thousands, of servicemembers off from the benefits and healthcare services they are owed.

A 2008 GAO investigation had looked at a sample of soldiers discharged for PD and found that between 22% and 60% of those had not actually been diagnosed by a psychologist or psychiatrist as having a PD that interfered with their duties. Additionally, 60% of them never received counseling about their PD before leaving the service. http://www.usmedicine.com/agencies/department-of-defense-dod/servicemembers-lose-benefits-after-improper-discharges-for-alleged-personality-disorders/

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Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
5. fucking navy.
Sat May 21, 2016, 06:57 PM
May 2016

Way to protect American citizens, by SETTING THEM ON FIRE and then claiming it's her fault.

How many criminals did the Navy admit to service, you know, people with a history of violence? Or did the fucking navy turn them into evil raping animals?

On edit: if I was a hiring supervisor, a less than honorable discharge would mean jackshit to me because the navy treats perps better than victims.

niyad

(113,552 posts)
6. don't forget--it was only a prank, and she was overreacting.
Sat May 21, 2016, 06:59 PM
May 2016

based on what I have seen, does the navy willingly bring them in, or turn them once they are in?? a bit of both, I think.

Ilsa

(61,698 posts)
8. I heard they recruit from
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:03 PM
May 2016

Jails from time to time. Nineteen year old bad apples.

And yeah, I bet some seaman with no moral compass could be convinced to commit felonies that would land them in prison for ten years on the outside.

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yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
9. Immediately after first assault, you should have gone to the SARC
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:17 PM
May 2016

or CMEO. I wish I had known you back then. Sorry you had to go through that.

niyad

(113,552 posts)
17. that is very kind, but please note that I did not write that piece. however, I knew a lot
Mon May 23, 2016, 11:04 AM
May 2016

of female military personnel, and the story above was all too common.

 

mrr303am

(159 posts)
11. And if Trump is elected POTUS
Sat May 21, 2016, 07:28 PM
May 2016

The Republican congress will write legislation stating the act of rape doesn't exist, Trump will sign this legislation, and the Supreme Court (bolstered by Trump's nominee) will rule in favor of this legislation stating a woman cannot be raped because the female provoked the act by their behavior and/or dress and rule it as a non-existent crime, unless a non-white, or non-Christian male commits the act against a white Christian female.

madville

(7,412 posts)
12. I couldn't imagine being a young female in the military
Sat May 21, 2016, 08:49 PM
May 2016

They are typically viewed as "morale gear" plus the prevalence of excessive drinking makes people vulnerable and also emboldens predators at the same time. The last statistics I saw on sexual assault in the military had alcohol as a contributing factor in over 90% of the cases if I remember right. I advise both male and female military members to avoid drinking with their coworkers, around 90% of all "non-drug" discipline problems in the military are alcohol related in some way I would bet.

 

SusanLarson

(284 posts)
13. I wasn't raped but...
Sat May 21, 2016, 09:03 PM
May 2016

For me it was a pattern of misconduct aka they wanted me out. Mine was a third class petty officer. He was e4, I was a e3. We were riding in his personal vehicle while traveling to a shooting range for unit training and he turns to me and out of the blue tells me , "I am going to kick you out of my Navy." I asked him why but he would never tell me his reasoning.

Looking back, I think he discovered that I was trans due to a incident at my previous duty station.

It took him 9 months but 3 suspiciously arranged fights (I never started any of them but was always busted for it.) later I was put out of the navy for a pattern of misconduct.

The sad thing is I also lost my GI Bill, and so was unable to go to college.

niyad

(113,552 posts)
18. thank you for the links. it astonishes me that the hate-zette has done something so
Mon May 23, 2016, 11:07 AM
May 2016

noteworthy in this military town.

yes, you have it exactly correct. just like the church.

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