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Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:52 AM May 2016

Chilcot report: Tony Blair set to be savaged in ‘absolutely brutal’ Iraq war inquiry verdict

The long-awaited Chilcot report into the Iraq war is reportedly set to savage Tony Blair and other former government officials in an “absolutely brutal” verdict on the failings of the occupation.

The former Prime Minister “won’t be let off the hook” over claims he offered military assistance to the former American President George W Bush, a year before the invasion of Iraq, a source told the Sunday Times.

The Inquiry, which was set up by former Prime Minister Gordon Brown in June 2009 to look into the run-up to the 2003 invasion of Iraq, will release its 2.6 million word report just two weeks after the EU referendum. It is expected to “damage the reputations” of a number of high-ranking officials.

snip

The Iraq Inquiry will be based on the testimony of more than 150 witnesses, who contributed to more than 130 sessions of oral evidence. It also incorporates the results of the examination of 150,000 Government documents examined.

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/chilcot-report-tony-blair-set-to-be-savaged-in-absolutely-brutal-iraq-war-inquiry-verdict-a7041926.html


Bush, Cheney, Rumsfeld,,,,, you will be judged too when this inquiry comes out

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Chilcot report: Tony Blair set to be savaged in ‘absolutely brutal’ Iraq war inquiry verdict (Original Post) Ichingcarpenter May 2016 OP
renews what little faith that I had left in justice....nt Jack Bone May 2016 #1
It's standard practice in the UK for former PMs to be awarded a peerage. Nye Bevan May 2016 #2
He said some time ago (2005) he didn't want one muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #6
Will the poodle have to pay for the crimes of his master(s)? deminks May 2016 #3
Watch US tv news stations and see if they even Ichingcarpenter May 2016 #4
Oh cry me a river n2doc May 2016 #5
. tk2kewl May 2016 #7
They are war criminals and should be treated as such malaise May 2016 #8
David Kelly killed himself Ichingcarpenter May 2016 #9
I had a private convo with a retired CIA analyst mainer May 2016 #11
sometimes my sarcasm Ichingcarpenter May 2016 #13
The official Hutton Inquiry website is now owned by personal injury lawyers muriel_volestrangler May 2016 #22
Getting up off the floor malaise May 2016 #23
No, I got your sarcasm! mainer May 2016 #25
LOL malaise May 2016 #18
He's part of the top 1/2 %. He couldn't care less about any report. WinkyDink May 2016 #10
Like they signaled the Banksters, time to look forward. Octafish May 2016 #12
Well I do expect a tongue lashing in the press in Europe Ichingcarpenter May 2016 #14
A right-wing Republican editor of my acquaintance... Octafish May 2016 #15
I get all my news on the internet.. Ichingcarpenter May 2016 #16
At least someone is going to suffer for their greedy actions. jwirr May 2016 #17
Who? malaise May 2016 #19
Well you are correct he is not going to suffer economically. jwirr May 2016 #21
You get it malaise May 2016 #24
I want to see Richard Clarke's suggested fate for all these people come to pass 90-percent May 2016 #20
Here's a good link malaise May 2016 #26
Maybe this will make him spill on BushCo librechik May 2016 #27
Any of the guilty not in prison has been "let off the hook" Solly Mack May 2016 #28

Nye Bevan

(25,406 posts)
2. It's standard practice in the UK for former PMs to be awarded a peerage.
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:57 AM
May 2016

I wonder if this will interfere with Blair's?

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
6. He said some time ago (2005) he didn't want one
Sun May 22, 2016, 11:27 AM
May 2016
http://www.mirror.co.uk/news/uk-news/the-blair-interview-i-wont-be-lord-blair-569131

It's fairly irrelevant to his business - he's more about trying to make bastards (whether corporations or regimes) look respectable on the international circuit, rather then being a lobbyist for them in Britain. Maybe if a Blairite got into power in the UK, he'd consider how much he could make by spending more time here to influence them.

deminks

(11,014 posts)
3. Will the poodle have to pay for the crimes of his master(s)?
Sun May 22, 2016, 09:57 AM
May 2016

There is discussion about impeaching the lapdog, even at this late date. But of course, impeachment is off the table here, and we don't look backward.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
4. Watch US tv news stations and see if they even
Sun May 22, 2016, 10:10 AM
May 2016

mention this story when it breaks with more than a 15 second spot

It will or should have political implications for our presidential election
since 'we' pushed this bullshit. Gee didn't an x president write an editorial
in the British papers telling them to 'trust Tony Blair' on going to war with Iraq? Let me see how I voted on that.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
9. David Kelly killed himself
Sun May 22, 2016, 12:11 PM
May 2016

Geez.........everyone knows that.

Which is why


Lord Hutton decided that evidence related to the death, including the post-mortem report and photographs of the body, should remain classified for 70 years. and only one Dr.was allowed to view and inspect the body and decided it was suicide

Although suicide was officially accepted as the cause of death, some medical experts have raised doubts, suggesting that the evidence does not support this. The most detailed objection was provided in a letter from three medical doctors published in The Guardian,[28] reinforced by support from two other senior physicians in a later letter to the newspaper.[29] These doctors argued that the autopsy finding of a transected ulnar artery could not have caused a degree of blood loss that would kill someone, particularly when outside in the cold (where vasoconstriction would cause slow blood loss). Further, this conflicted with the minimal amount of blood found at the scene. They also contended that the amount of co-proxamol found was only about a third of what would normally be fatal. Dr Rouse, a British epidemiologist wrote to the British Medical Journal offering his opinion that the act of committing suicide by severing wrist arteries is an extremely rare occurrence in a 59-year-old man with no previous psychiatric history.[30] Nobody else died from that cause during the year.

mainer

(12,022 posts)
11. I had a private convo with a retired CIA analyst
Sun May 22, 2016, 12:18 PM
May 2016

and he said it's well-accepted among his colleagues that Kelly's death was not a suicide.

muriel_volestrangler

(101,321 posts)
22. The official Hutton Inquiry website is now owned by personal injury lawyers
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:16 PM
May 2016

This does not bode well for the authorities taking this seriously in 70 years time.

eg

1) There are no ongoing Police enquiries into the death of Dr. Kelly. Our enquiries were substantially complete by the time ACC Page gave evidence to the Hutton Inquiry on the 23rd September 2003. Mr Page’s evidence can be found at 195.1 at:

http://www.the-hutton-inquiry.org.uk/content/transcripts/hearing-trans42.htm

http://www.thamesvalley.police.uk/aboutus/aboutus-depts/aboutus-depts-infman/aboutus-depts-foi/aboutus-depts-foi-disclosure-log/aboutus-depts-foi-disclosure-log-investigate/aboutus-depts-foi-disclosure-log-item.htm?id=168158


http://www.the-hutton-inquiry.org.uk now gets you pages headed "Personal Injury UK Advice on making personal injury or accident claims in the UK." Nominet records show they've had it since Oct 2013.

malaise

(269,054 posts)
18. LOL
Sun May 22, 2016, 12:52 PM
May 2016

because otherwise I'd jump. That Kelly murder was one of the worst crimes in my lifetime - killed him because he knew their illegal war was a lie. He knew there were no weapons. They'd all be in prison for that alone

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
12. Like they signaled the Banksters, time to look forward.
Sun May 22, 2016, 12:20 PM
May 2016

YET We Hope for Change.

Thanks for the heads-up, Ichingcarpenter. Tony the Poodle is gonna piddle his widdle pantsuit.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
14. Well I do expect a tongue lashing in the press in Europe
Sun May 22, 2016, 12:24 PM
May 2016

but not much more than bad press for him.

But we can be hopeful
it might go further

I hope the US covers the story....LOL....... ok
I'm a joker.....

Octafish

(55,745 posts)
15. A right-wing Republican editor of my acquaintance...
Sun May 22, 2016, 12:28 PM
May 2016

...covers the auto industry. Always with the talking points...liberals blah blah.

Goes to Europe and comes back with jaw open. Says the media there (Deutschland, France, real continental stuff) cover so much stuff they miss here.

I just stare.

Ichingcarpenter

(36,988 posts)
16. I get all my news on the internet..
Sun May 22, 2016, 12:35 PM
May 2016

but I look at many sources just like you to decide what's what.
Some US news are good but it usually comes from alternative media that has to be filtered too.

The US mainstream news is corrupted but sometimes they say things they don't realize what it really said.

This British paper isn't bad but also has an agenda like everyone does.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
21. Well you are correct he is not going to suffer economically.
Sun May 22, 2016, 01:03 PM
May 2016

And I suppose he doesn't really have a good reputation to lose. So I reconsider - no one is going to suffer yet.

90-percent

(6,829 posts)
20. I want to see Richard Clarke's suggested fate for all these people come to pass
Sun May 22, 2016, 12:56 PM
May 2016

"These people" being every world leader and their henchmen that knowingly lied America into an unnecessary and tragic and crime against humanity invasion.

And Richard Clarke's hope re that these people are no longer welcome in polite society.

Although in these times they'd give Rummy and Condi their own reality show. Tagline: SYRIA! You're invaded!

-90% Jimmy

malaise

(269,054 posts)
26. Here's a good link
Sun May 22, 2016, 02:46 PM
May 2016
http://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2016/apr/22/chilcot-real-scandal-tony-blair-iraq-invasion-radicalising-british-muslims
<snip>
What has received far less attention is the devastating evidence Chilcot heard about the invasion making Britain more vulnerable to terrorism. Blair has always dismissed suggestions that his foreign policy decisions were in any way responsible for encouraging terrorist attacks and “radicalising” young British Muslims as a charge perpetuated by “the left”.

The evidence to Chilcot contradicts his assertion. Lady Manningham-Buller, head of MI5 at the time, bluntly told the inquiry the invasion “undoubtedly increased the threat” of terrorist attacks in Britain.

She said she communicated her view to Blair via Whitehall’s Joint Intelligence Committee (JIC). “The number of plots, the number of leads, the number of people identified, and statements of people as to why they were involved,” all pointed to the increased terrorist threat to the UK.

“Our focus was then on dealing with the manifestations of terrorist threats in the United Kingdom since 9/11. Our work was increasing exponentially. It increased very much more when we went into Iraq … ”

She told the inquiry: “To my mind Iraq, Saddam Hussein had nothing to do with 9/11,” and continued: “Our involvement in Iraq radicalised, for want of a better word, a whole generation of young people. Some British citizens saw our involvement in Iraq as being an attack on Islam.”

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