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(53,475 posts)n2doc
(47,953 posts)And unfortunately both sides have valid points.
curiouso
(57 posts)Both sides do have valid points - it's just that the points the Hillary-haters make are mostly a matter of perception, rumor and innuendo, while the ones being scored against Trump are his own words. It's time for Bernie supporters to join me in accepting that Hillary Cinton may not do everything Bernie Sanders would have, but she's a lot more like us and a damned sight better qualified to be president than Donald Trump. With Hillary we get not only someone who's going to move the progressive agenda forward but someone we can bitch about when she doesn't do it fast enough to suit us.
Bucky
(54,020 posts)She is not uninformed, irresponsible, immature, ill-mannered, reckless, bigoted, dangerous, naive, foul-mouthed, impulsive, narcissistic, or unpredictable.
In comparison to Trump, being only divisive, arrogant, and only occasionally dishonest isn't too bad.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)Bucky
(54,020 posts)Obviously she's the kind of pol you have to keep an eye on. That doesn't make her comparable to Trump.
Scuba
(53,475 posts)byronius
(7,395 posts)She's dealing with Citizens United differently than Bernie, but I think your charge requires far more actual information than you possess.
Simply assuming that she will support an industry that has given her money is an assumption not born out by her rhetoric or voting record. And the over-the-top speciousness of the charge does not help Bernie in any way; overstating the case and drawing such invisible lines of assumption hurts him deeply.
Just like the foofaraw in Nevada. The ire and rage of his supporters and their willingness to engage in absolute condemnation of a relatively liberal candidate is his number one enemy.
Fritz Walter
(4,291 posts)Everyone knows we should recite the Lager Prayer:
Our Lager, which art in barrels,
Hallowed by thy drink.
Thy will be drunk,
At home, as it is in the bar.
Give us this day our foaming head,
And forgive us our Spillages,
As we forgive those who Spill against us.
Lead us not into incarceration,
and deliver us from hangovers.
For thine is the Lager, the Ale, and the Porter.
Barmen!
malthaussen
(17,202 posts)I'm stealing it.
-- Mal
Fritz Walter
(4,291 posts)I picked it up during a two-week cruise, aboard a Disney ship (no less). They held a beer-tasting seminar on one of the days at-sea, and the instructor was a Scotsman, who was drinking full pints as we were served tiny, little Pilsner glasses. His brogue got heavier as the seminar progressed.
Slainte!
madokie
(51,076 posts)if he's elected WE'RE fucked