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http://www.news4jax.com/news/georgia/5-people-killed-in-moultrie-house-fireMOULTRIE, Ga. - Five people found dead in a south Georgia house fire were actually shot, and the blaze was set intentionally as a cover-up, state law officers said Friday.
A man initially described as the fire's sole survivor, Jeffrey Alan Peacock, now faces charges of arson and murder in all five deaths.
Peacock, 25, was at the scene when fire crews arrived Sunday and was interviewed there, but investigators were suspicious from the start, according to Jamy Steinberg, a special agent with the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.
"The first question in our mind is, 'how did five adults not get out of a burning house? So that's one of the things that piqued our curiosity from the onset," he said at a news conferenc
malaise
(269,045 posts)on national network and cable news
Bonx
(2,053 posts)"MAN, GIRLFRIEND CHARGED IN BRUTAL MURDERS OF 6 FAMILY MEMBERS IN CHICAGO"
http://abc7.com/news/man-girlfriend-charged-in-brutal-murders-of-6-family-members-in-chicago/1347065/
Unbelievable - but they're busy with 24//7 Trump
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)MSM has been agitprop for bans for over 40 years.
The categories of shootings have been re-jiggered so much -- Mass Murder I (4 or more in one incident); Mass Murder II (now 3 or more in one incident); Mass Shooting (newest, with 4 or more shot -- not necessarily killed -- in one incident), Mltiple Shootings (still waiting for some kind of definition) -- all to inflate numbers, MSM may have an embarassment of "riches" with which to frighten the public in an already fear-besotted public. Trouble is, even the agitprop of MSM can figure out that increased gun sales are, as they remind us daily, due to heightened fear: Newz Media, meet mirror of self-fulfilling prophecy.
Said another way, some folks may be hoisted by their own petard.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)Jerry442
(1,265 posts)Deaths by firearms are so normalized they aren't news anymore.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)Javaman
(62,530 posts)their minions take care of that for them.
Doctor_J
(36,392 posts)But hey, GUNS ARE NOT THE PROBLEM.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)onehandle
(51,122 posts)i must be doing it wrong. Haven't hurt a living thing in 35 years.
cali
(114,904 posts)Hyperbole is dumb.
onehandle
(51,122 posts)...then we would have stuck with 1791 gun technology.
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cali
(114,904 posts)ileus
(15,396 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)that is a pretty fucking stupid notion.
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)TrappedInUtah
(87 posts)If you miss your one shot, or there are multiple intruders you're screwed.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)semi-automatics make little problems into big problems fast.
scscholar
(2,902 posts)hack89
(39,171 posts)rifles are rarely used for murder.
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)be careful around here, or you'll get pounced on when you say there's a difference.
unless you mean fully-automatic military weapons like Kalashnikovs. which are largely unavailable to the general public (although 2nd amendment absolutists would say that's unconstitutional).
jmg257
(11,996 posts)by the constitutional militia.
"In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use of a "shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length" at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument. Certainly it is not within judicial notice that this weapon is any part of the ordinary military equipment, or that its use could contribute to the common defense."
Seems if Miller was carrying a BAR, according to this ruling, autos would be fully legal.
(NOT saying they should be - much has changed re: militia, standing armies etc.)
maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)only has semi-automatic firearms.
I've just been around gun threads long enough to know that "assault rifle" is a trigger word for absolutists. gotta be precise in our terminology, or their feelings get hurt.
jmg257
(11,996 posts)Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)It was a shotgun.
Close enuff for government (ban) work?
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)maxsolomon
(33,345 posts)The thread for which I'm sure you posted in. I made no claim about the "murder rate" one way or the other. I know it has declined. That doesn't make mass killings any less heinous.
Murder sure is "funny"!
Eleanors38
(18,318 posts)these crimes are categorized under; now, the news can say we have almost one-a-day "Mass Shooings" when the def didn't exist for statistical purposes before 2011. And the venerable "Mass Murder" has gone from four to three to pump up the totals. The upshot is you can't have good analysis of ANY problem when the data is shifting. Are mass murders up or down, what is causing them, what can government do, etc.? We can indeed use rhetorical flourishes like "funny" murders, however.
Logical
(22,457 posts)cali
(114,904 posts)than the general population
gollygee
(22,336 posts)Mentally ill people are much more likely to be victims of violence than perpetrators of it.
raccoon
(31,111 posts)Spacedog1973
(221 posts)rather than 'anger'. Its something that a few hours, a day or two would 'cure'. But firearms make permanent victims of. The sort of malaise that with guns, makes suicide more successful too.