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KG

(28,751 posts)
Tue May 24, 2016, 07:42 PM May 2016

another mass murder, under the radar. killer and 5 victims all white

http://www.news4jax.com/news/georgia/5-people-killed-in-moultrie-house-fire

MOULTRIE, Ga. - Five people found dead in a south Georgia house fire were actually shot, and the blaze was set intentionally as a cover-up, state law officers said Friday.

A man initially described as the fire's sole survivor, Jeffrey Alan Peacock, now faces charges of arson and murder in all five deaths.

Peacock, 25, was at the scene when fire crews arrived Sunday and was interviewed there, but investigators were suspicious from the start, according to Jamy Steinberg, a special agent with the Georgia Bureau of Investigation.

"The first question in our mind is, 'how did five adults not get out of a burning house? So that's one of the things that piqued our curiosity from the onset," he said at a news conferenc
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another mass murder, under the radar. killer and 5 victims all white (Original Post) KG May 2016 OP
Looks like a conspiracy between the corporate media and the NRA to ignore these stories malaise May 2016 #1
Was this one posted ? Bonx May 2016 #12
No malaise May 2016 #24
If MSM is conspiring not to cover this, then banners are in trouble... Eleanors38 May 2016 #27
Malaise, you have GCRKBA, GCAG groups AND Guns Discussion. What else you want? Eleanors38 May 2016 #31
It's the NRA's wet dream. Jerry442 May 2016 #2
Gun sales always spike after another mass shooting Doctor_J May 2016 #9
that's why gun stores never run sales... Javaman May 2016 #11
Yes, every few days another "blowout sale" Doctor_J May 2016 #22
See #27 above. Thanks. Eleanors38 May 2016 #32
Gun culture is all about the ability to mass murder. nt onehandle May 2016 #3
Really? hack89 May 2016 #6
No, it's not. cali May 2016 #13
If mass murder wasn't the prime objective for gun culture... onehandle May 2016 #17
Good grief. You can't possibly believe that. cali May 2016 #18
Don't be so sure... ileus May 2016 #26
So innovation in gun technology post 1791 was driven by the desire for mass murder? hack89 May 2016 #21
Hey! That looks vaguely like a "press!" Eleanors38 May 2016 #29
How do you even defend yourself with that thing? TrappedInUtah May 2016 #35
one mass murder/week maxsolomon May 2016 #4
And assault weapons make it even worse (ntxt) scscholar May 2016 #5
No. The problem is handguns by a order of magnitude hack89 May 2016 #7
those are the same thing - semi-automatic military-style weapons maxsolomon May 2016 #8
Actually absolutists would be right...military rifles being ideal for military usage jmg257 May 2016 #15
but i can't say i'm displeased that the average negligent american yahoo maxsolomon May 2016 #19
Understood! Cheers! nt jmg257 May 2016 #20
Hell, max, an OP today shows a pic of a guy shouldering "a rifle (Boston Globe)"... Eleanors38 May 2016 #28
Is that under the new & improved definition? Funny, murder rate is way down. Eleanors38 May 2016 #30
Per the NYT Article maxsolomon May 2016 #33
I am sure you are also aware of the variety of new definitions... Eleanors38 May 2016 #34
This is a mental health issue, not a gun issue IMO. How do you stop one lone nut? You can't. nt Logical May 2016 #10
Its not. People with mental illness are no more violent cali May 2016 #14
Most people who shoot other people are not mentally ill. they're simply angry. gollygee May 2016 #16
You sure got that right! raccoon May 2016 #23
I think its more of a tempoary emotional malaise Spacedog1973 May 2016 #36
Not a Syrian refugee... again. ck4829 May 2016 #25

malaise

(269,045 posts)
1. Looks like a conspiracy between the corporate media and the NRA to ignore these stories
Tue May 24, 2016, 07:45 PM
May 2016

on national network and cable news

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
27. If MSM is conspiring not to cover this, then banners are in trouble...
Wed May 25, 2016, 05:50 PM
May 2016

MSM has been agitprop for bans for over 40 years.



The categories of shootings have been re-jiggered so much -- Mass Murder I (4 or more in one incident); Mass Murder II (now 3 or more in one incident); Mass Shooting (newest, with 4 or more shot -- not necessarily killed -- in one incident), Mltiple Shootings (still waiting for some kind of definition) -- all to inflate numbers, MSM may have an embarassment of "riches" with which to frighten the public in an already fear-besotted public. Trouble is, even the agitprop of MSM can figure out that increased gun sales are, as they remind us daily, due to heightened fear: Newz Media, meet mirror of self-fulfilling prophecy.

Said another way, some folks may be hoisted by their own petard.

onehandle

(51,122 posts)
17. If mass murder wasn't the prime objective for gun culture...
Wed May 25, 2016, 12:19 PM
May 2016

...then we would have stuck with 1791 gun technology.

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hack89

(39,171 posts)
21. So innovation in gun technology post 1791 was driven by the desire for mass murder?
Wed May 25, 2016, 12:52 PM
May 2016

that is a pretty fucking stupid notion.

 

TrappedInUtah

(87 posts)
35. How do you even defend yourself with that thing?
Thu May 26, 2016, 03:19 PM
May 2016

If you miss your one shot, or there are multiple intruders you're screwed.

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
8. those are the same thing - semi-automatic military-style weapons
Tue May 24, 2016, 08:33 PM
May 2016

be careful around here, or you'll get pounced on when you say there's a difference.

unless you mean fully-automatic military weapons like Kalashnikovs. which are largely unavailable to the general public (although 2nd amendment absolutists would say that's unconstitutional).

jmg257

(11,996 posts)
15. Actually absolutists would be right...military rifles being ideal for military usage
Wed May 25, 2016, 12:13 PM
May 2016

by the constitutional militia.

"In the absence of any evidence tending to show that possession or use of a "shotgun having a barrel of less than eighteen inches in length" at this time has some reasonable relationship to the preservation or efficiency of a well regulated militia, we cannot say that the Second Amendment guarantees the right to keep and bear such an instrument. Certainly it is not within judicial notice that this weapon is any part of the ordinary military equipment, or that its use could contribute to the common defense."

Seems if Miller was carrying a BAR, according to this ruling, autos would be fully legal.

(NOT saying they should be - much has changed re: militia, standing armies etc.)

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
19. but i can't say i'm displeased that the average negligent american yahoo
Wed May 25, 2016, 12:32 PM
May 2016

only has semi-automatic firearms.

I've just been around gun threads long enough to know that "assault rifle" is a trigger word for absolutists. gotta be precise in our terminology, or their feelings get hurt.

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
28. Hell, max, an OP today shows a pic of a guy shouldering "a rifle (Boston Globe)"...
Wed May 25, 2016, 05:57 PM
May 2016

It was a shotgun.



Close enuff for government (ban) work?

maxsolomon

(33,345 posts)
33. Per the NYT Article
Wed May 25, 2016, 07:36 PM
May 2016

The thread for which I'm sure you posted in. I made no claim about the "murder rate" one way or the other. I know it has declined. That doesn't make mass killings any less heinous.

Murder sure is "funny"!

 

Eleanors38

(18,318 posts)
34. I am sure you are also aware of the variety of new definitions...
Thu May 26, 2016, 02:48 PM
May 2016

these crimes are categorized under; now, the news can say we have almost one-a-day "Mass Shooings" when the def didn't exist for statistical purposes before 2011. And the venerable "Mass Murder" has gone from four to three to pump up the totals. The upshot is you can't have good analysis of ANY problem when the data is shifting. Are mass murders up or down, what is causing them, what can government do, etc.? We can indeed use rhetorical flourishes like "funny" murders, however.

 

Logical

(22,457 posts)
10. This is a mental health issue, not a gun issue IMO. How do you stop one lone nut? You can't. nt
Tue May 24, 2016, 10:18 PM
May 2016

gollygee

(22,336 posts)
16. Most people who shoot other people are not mentally ill. they're simply angry.
Wed May 25, 2016, 12:14 PM
May 2016

Mentally ill people are much more likely to be victims of violence than perpetrators of it.

raccoon

(31,111 posts)
23. You sure got that right!
Wed May 25, 2016, 02:02 PM
May 2016
Most people who shoot other people are not mentally ill. they're simply angry..[/div class="excerpt"]

Spacedog1973

(221 posts)
36. I think its more of a tempoary emotional malaise
Thu May 26, 2016, 03:23 PM
May 2016

rather than 'anger'. Its something that a few hours, a day or two would 'cure'. But firearms make permanent victims of. The sort of malaise that with guns, makes suicide more successful too.

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