...since her opponents in the fascist coup are such goddamn crooks and liars--not to mention stupids--and got caught on tape!

They remind me of...oh dear, can I say this?...Hillary Clinton and her private, insecure email server in her house which she was doing government business on! What a clusterfuck she created with that! Now everybody's reading her emails! I nailed her on Honduras, from one of her emails. She is the one within the Obama administration who was responsible for funding and "legitimizing" the fascist coup in Honduras, where thousands of women environmental activists and pro-democracy activists are now being raped and/or murdered--including a famous one, Bertha Caceres, winner of the The Goldman Environmental Prize--and LGBT people are also being targeted.

This was a really, really, REALLY stupid action of Hillary Clinton's, this private email server. It's a no-no in the national security state. And she couldn't even "wipe" it successfully. She is not competent to be president. You gotta be better at covering your ass than that. I think her fatal flaw is greed. But it could be paranoia. She thought everybody was spying on her, which they probably were. And she thought she could evade the spies with a wide-open, insecure server that a 12 year old probably could've hacked. And she thought she'd "wiped" the server when she hadn't. I mean, it's just one clusterfuck after another with her.

And THAT reminds me of Richard Nixon and his taping system--the hubris of it. That was his fatal flaw. He really thought history would be interested in every bad word he said in the Oval Office, along with his brilliant, statesmanlike strategy, for instance, his thoughts on paying the Watergate burglars one million dollars to shut the fuck up.

We really ought to have a special test for Presidential candidates--designed by some of our spies maybe--wherein they prove how smart they are at NOT recording their crimes.

Well, the Brazilian fascists didn't know they were being taped, but they were stupid enough to have their criminal conversation in a place where they could be taped. That's almost as dumb as what Nixon and Clinton did.

Take that image down please.

I get the same problems sometimes. These trolls have passive/ aggressive school-girl tendencies; but slightly smaller hands than their heroes, Xi and Trump.

The thread was about the anti-democratic coup in Brazil. The post was a rant about the current Democratic primaries. Apart from that comment, all the other comments on this thread about Brazil. Job Done.

Who is Xi btw?

will be in by the time the Olymics roles by. I can't see the sort of ring-of-steel police state security that goes with the Olympics going down well with the Brazillian populace. And you cannot help but wonder how much Olymics corruption Brazil's new rulers were involved in.

Won't look good.

This planet is due for a shake-up

They are running out of sugar and the government hiked the price of corn-flour by 900%.

And Maduro is unwilling to consider any changes or compromises and keeps blaming the problems on others sabotaging Venezuela. The opposition collected 1.5million signatures calling for a referendum on his rule and Maduro just ignores that.






The syrian civil-war started when the public became afraid of famine and demanded new policies and the ruler said no.

I predict a revolution/civil-war in Venezuela, driven by the public, before 2017 rolls around.

Followed by oligarchs booting the public and taking over themself.

Followed by corruption and political instability, similar to Ukraine.

Followed by endless conspiracy-theories on DU how Venezuela wasn't brought down by idiotic economic policies but by some international banking-conspiracy and/or the US.

We know what's going on- the destabilization method was used on us in the late 70s and early 80s

Venezuela is broke because Saudi-Arabia crashed the oil-price with over-production to kill US-fracking and now nobody wants to be the one to stop selling oil to get the price up again.

Venezuela is broke because of socialist programs that spend a lot of money. This only works if you can get that money from somewhere with taxes.

Venezuela, a major importer, cannot trade with foreign countries because the venezolan government refuses to use an exchange-rate that accurately reflects the low value of the venezolan Bolivar.

Venezuela cannot properly trade domestically because the low value of the Bolivar has lead to massive inflation. People simply cannot afford to buy things. (A hamburger costs $170. Google it.)

Venezuela is currently suffering a drought which is hampering that little bit of domestic agricultural production they have.

Additionally, the drought has left the lakes at their hydroelectric dams in a depleted state, leading to electricity-shortages. This has killed industrial production and the venezolan government works only 2 days a week.




Venezuela has plenty, plenty, plenty of problems that can backed up with solid evidence in an instant and explain the situation. There is no reason to complement the explanation with an evidence-free speculation.

Yet we were able to buy Jamaican goods in other islands. More importantly, one day after that election in 1980 the said supermarkets were stocked. I know people who raided factories - we know what went down and it was only the Cubana aircraft in 1976.

There is no double that oil prices hurt not only Venezuela but Trinidad and Tobago.

Don't forget Venezuela survived an attempted coup that Condy and Bush were celebrating - we know who's siding with the Venezuelan elite - same with Brazil.

I know, there was a coup-attempt in the early 2000s.

But exactly how is the US supposedly hurting Venezuela right now?
Is it sabotaging oil-trade? Or domestic trade in Venezuela? Or the weather in Venezuela?
Is the US responsible for south-american merchants demanding another exchange-rate than the one Venezuela dictates?

Would you prefer the Portuguese language coverage, or Spanish?

New Political Earthquake in Brazil: Is It Now Time for Media Outlets to Call This a “Coup”?
https://theintercept.com/2016/05/23/new-political-earthquake-in-brazil-is-it-now-time-for-media-outlets-to-call-this-a-coup/

Glenn Greenwald

Glenn Greenwald is one of three co-founding editors of The Intercept. He is a journalist, constitutional lawyer, and author of four New York Times best-selling books on politics and law. His most recent book, No Place to Hide, is about the U.S. surveillance state and his experiences reporting on the Snowden documents around the world. Prior to co-founding The Intercept, Glenn’s column was featured at The Guardian and Salon. He was the debut winner, along with Amy Goodman, of the Park Center I.F. Stone Award for Independent Journalism in 2008, and also received the 2010 Online Journalism Award for his investigative work on the abusive detention conditions of Chelsea Manning. For his 2013 NSA reporting, he received the George Polk award for National Security Reporting; the Gannett Foundation award for investigative journalism and the Gannett Foundation watchdog journalism award; the Esso Premio for Excellence in Investigative Reporting in Brazil (he was the first non-Brazilian to win), and the Electronic Frontier Foundation’s Pioneer Award. Along with Laura Poitras, Foreign Policy magazine named him one of the top 100 Global Thinkers for 2013. The NSA reporting he led for The Guardian was awarded the 2014 Pulitzer Prize for public service.

for those with agendas

Like trying to name Lula to a cabinet post to shield him from corruption charges?

And the people doing the impeachment are the ring leaders of the corruption.

This is a bit like having the mob run a candidate for President, except they already have the Vice President in office, so they only have to remove the President to end the investigations into themselves. In Brazil, the majority of the politicians ARE a criminal mob.

But that does include Dilma. Never had any illusions about her.

I was more surprised about Lula, I'd have thought him relatively clean.

has not been accused by ANYONE of graft for personal gain. Which is quite a bit different from the coup plotters. Their accusations WERE about personal gain.

Have they waived the visa requirements yet?

From what I understood, what Dilma did was roughly as bad as what Nixon did.

Please

And the people who were about to go to jail for life decided a coup was a better option for them.

the people who have taken over the government by a "constitutional" coup.

Imagine if Republicans controlled both House and Senate and impeached Obama, then a tape comes out where they conspired to impeach him to end a DoJ investigation. Can't work here because the V-P isn't a Republican, but in Brazil the V-P is the leader of the corrupt fascists. It is an impeachment to overthrow a liberal winning an election, plain and simple.

Are you saying impeachments are for conservatives only?

Lula appears to have been another Warren Harding: popular, but corrupt.

Their difference in political affiliation doesn't change what they deserve(d)

it seems. The people being indicted are the corrupt politicians. The President is not accused of corruption, her government was investigating it. The coup immediately suspended the corruption investigation into themselves.

It really isn't all that difficult to understand if you just try harder.

And like I said, I was surprised about Lula.

I'd love to hear from Swamp Rat

There are no good guys in this.

I've been sick about this. So happy she has some real fire to fight back with!

A lot is at risk here. These old plutocrat fascists don't believe in science or climate change, just in money. And they are no doubt paying off everyone willing to sell themselves. If this coup succeeds, the indigenous people and the rain forest will be severely impacted, an impact that will resonate in the entire biosphere.

I really hope the evidence matters. Brazil already knows how few men with guns are needed to suppress a nation, and they know that those same old forces just took control. I'll be surprised if we have the Olympics unless Dilma is back in office. These old, white men are not going to be tolerated much longer given the evidence against them, and that result in troops in the streets shooting people to end the demonstrations.

People disappeared when the far right was last in power, and Dilma was herself tortured by them.

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