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Why are Greatest Threads about the email report kept off the Home page? (Original Post) passy May 2016 OP
Because it's a conspiracy to keep Bernie form winning the nomination! Itchinjim May 2016 #1
I don't think I was talking about Bernie or the nomination, but whatever ... passy May 2016 #2
It appears that you are talking about turning DU into a place to bash Hillary Clinton... Jeffersons Ghost May 2016 #21
Keeping certain stories out of the front page is not what I thought DU was about. passy May 2016 #41
DU is not what you think it is. DU is all in for what ever helps Hillary and that includes haikugal May 2016 #51
Slamming Hillary repeatedly over a GOP invented story better sure as HELL Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #28
GOP invented? moonbabygo May 2016 #31
This message was self-deleted by its author artislife May 2016 #34
Why involve the GOP and Bernie? passy May 2016 #42
Email is GOP story...period. Bernie doesnt support this witch hunt nor do I. Some do though Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #43
Stop calling it a witch hunt, she admitted she messed up. passy May 2016 #46
GOP witch hunt and ALL liberals know it. Liberals dont talk about this GOP story. Jackie Wilson Said May 2016 #48
IT IS A WITCH HUNT Skittles May 2016 #50
You said "period" so I guess that does it. tazkcmo May 2016 #55
Oh noes! DWS and Bill Clinton strike again! FSogol May 2016 #3
My question was more of a technical question, not about some conspiracy. passy May 2016 #5
I hear there is a group who are trying to remove the DNC chair from DU. Details at 6 tonight still_one May 2016 #26
It would be considered primary business RogueTrooper May 2016 #4
All posts with enough recs should show up. passy May 2016 #6
You might want to go to Ask The Administrors and ask them RogueTrooper May 2016 #7
I sent Skinner a mail asking to comment on this thread. passy May 2016 #8
K&R passy May 2016 #9
The owner of the website is committed to the Hillary campaign Jesus Malverde May 2016 #10
He might be but it's the first time I see the front page "Greatest Threads" box being edited. passy May 2016 #13
True, he can be as selfish and biased as he wants. nt Logical May 2016 #54
Naw he's just feeding his peeps. Jesus Malverde May 2016 #56
The GDP forum is NOT on the home page because it is where we IdaBriggs May 2016 #11
I don't think that I noticed GDP post kept off the front page before passy May 2016 #12
Skinner posted about it in the "Announcements" forum on March 16, 2016. IdaBriggs May 2016 #14
Still one of the ones I mentioned is from LBN not GDP passy May 2016 #18
Holy carp! I was just about to say that it was past the 24 hour expiration IdaBriggs May 2016 #22
Actually it looks like none of the LBN posts are making it to the frontpage. passy May 2016 #19
There are multiple pages of Latest Threads tammywammy May 2016 #24
LBN is no longer on the home page. nt IdaBriggs May 2016 #29
You left off this one: pnwmom May 2016 #15
Is that a joke, that post is pure bullshit and it only has 15 recs... passy May 2016 #17
Link to Rachel Maddow's interpretation, if that helps. Watch it all. I did. Hekate May 2016 #25
A law professor from the University of Baltimore wrote it. Where did you get your degree? n/t pnwmom May 2016 #33
You don't need a degree to read the report, read it yourself. passy May 2016 #37
Colin Powell NEVER used a .gov account, though he could have. And he didn't make paper copies pnwmom May 2016 #40
The report is not simply about records though is it. passy May 2016 #44
There is no evidence that Hillary's server was any risker -- quite the contrary, since during that pnwmom May 2016 #45
Stop deflecting passy May 2016 #47
I agree it was a bad decision politically. Other than that it was a reasonable decision. pnwmom May 2016 #49
Because the system is rigged Capt. Obvious May 2016 #16
What system? passy May 2016 #20
Because there isn't room for all 300 of them? TwilightZone May 2016 #23
Post removed Post removed May 2016 #27
Republicans don't use email. hunter May 2016 #30
LOL nt moonbabygo May 2016 #32
I hear that sometimes there's footplay involved passy May 2016 #38
But only when taking a wide stance. Agnosticsherbet May 2016 #52
Because they label them about the primary and move them jwirr May 2016 #35
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2016 #36
You shouldn't quit, DU is a great platform for discussion passy May 2016 #39
JUNE 14 MFM008 May 2016 #53

Jeffersons Ghost

(15,235 posts)
21. It appears that you are talking about turning DU into a place to bash Hillary Clinton...
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:57 AM
May 2016

more publically; but please explain what you are "talking about."

passy

(853 posts)
41. Keeping certain stories out of the front page is not what I thought DU was about.
Thu May 26, 2016, 04:53 PM
May 2016

That's all. I would be equally puzzled if a post called "Bernie caught slaughtering unicorns" was kept off the front page.

haikugal

(6,476 posts)
51. DU is not what you think it is. DU is all in for what ever helps Hillary and that includes
Thu May 26, 2016, 07:29 PM
May 2016

the front page, capisce?

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
28. Slamming Hillary repeatedly over a GOP invented story better sure as HELL
Thu May 26, 2016, 01:35 PM
May 2016

be about Bernie and the nomination, otherwise people here are doing it solely to harm the Democratic Party and it's likely nominee.

 

moonbabygo

(281 posts)
31. GOP invented?
Thu May 26, 2016, 01:56 PM
May 2016

Did someone tell the FBI this? From what I hear the typically don't waste their time on invented things as there are real issues to tackle and I have yet to hear they are over staffed

Response to moonbabygo (Reply #31)

passy

(853 posts)
42. Why involve the GOP and Bernie?
Thu May 26, 2016, 05:04 PM
May 2016

Hillary herself admitted she did something wrong, the report simply details the extent of her mistake.
That is newsworthy and factual, if you see it as an attack then go ahead.
Just like the speaking fees Hillary knew what she was doing, even if nothing nefarious happened, it gives the wrong impression. She had no practical need to set up the private server, apart from accessing her mails from her Blackberry, just like she had no need to give all those paid speeches apart from wanting to fill up her coffers.
A one point she should have considered the consequences and said no, it's not worth it, it might look bad if I decide to run for the presidency again.

passy

(853 posts)
46. Stop calling it a witch hunt, she admitted she messed up.
Thu May 26, 2016, 05:37 PM
May 2016

And she was unclear about the reasoning and the extent of her f**k up.
The lack of clarity cannot be others' fault.
If she had simply said "I'm sorry, I had assumed that I had followed proper procedure but I didn't, I am turning other my server to the State Department, which I trust will be able to determine which emails should become part of the official record, while preserving my right to privacy." There, done, she has nothing to hide.

Jackie Wilson Said

(4,176 posts)
48. GOP witch hunt and ALL liberals know it. Liberals dont talk about this GOP story.
Thu May 26, 2016, 05:41 PM
May 2016

witch hunt
witch hunt
witch hunt

tazkcmo

(7,300 posts)
55. You said "period" so I guess that does it.
Thu May 26, 2016, 07:49 PM
May 2016

Do you really think that's going to make this go away? Period my *ss.

passy

(853 posts)
6. All posts with enough recs should show up.
Thu May 26, 2016, 07:50 AM
May 2016

And they're not just GDP posts either, one is a Latest Breaking News post.

Jesus Malverde

(10,274 posts)
56. Naw he's just feeding his peeps.
Thu May 26, 2016, 07:50 PM
May 2016

Maybe he gets a vacation once in a while. Be a nice guest in his house. You can imagine the bern drives him nuts, it's embarrassing for his platform, and reveals grass roots sentiment.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
11. The GDP forum is NOT on the home page because it is where we
Thu May 26, 2016, 08:56 AM
May 2016

rip into each other and the Admins dont want our dirty laundry on the home (front) page. News about the report in "Latest Breaking News" would be there if it received enough recommendations.

It's not a conspiracy - just some housekeeping. People are also free to "trash" the forums that infuriate them, and I think the top three are GDP, Hillary and Bernie! Lol!

passy

(853 posts)
12. I don't think that I noticed GDP post kept off the front page before
Thu May 26, 2016, 10:09 AM
May 2016

In this case it's a GDP post, not a Bernie or Hillary group post, and a LBN post.
There's no reason why they should be kept off the front page.

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
14. Skinner posted about it in the "Announcements" forum on March 16, 2016.
Thu May 26, 2016, 10:15 AM
May 2016
http://www.democraticunderground.com/10135098

"And also we are not going to feature discussion threads on the DU homepage if they are posted in the General Discussion: Primaries forum, or in either of the two primary candidate supporters' groups. We are no longer interested in featuring the most divisive content on the front page of this website.

passy

(853 posts)
18. Still one of the ones I mentioned is from LBN not GDP
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:53 AM
May 2016

And it had the highest number of recs this morning.
Title "State Dept. watchdog: Clinton violated email rules"

 

IdaBriggs

(10,559 posts)
22. Holy carp! I was just about to say that it was past the 24 hour expiration
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:59 AM
May 2016

But the #2 thread is from "Latest Breaking" and it isn't showing on the home page either!



HILLARY CLINTON AND HER STAFF MAY HAVE COMPROMISED COUNTERTERROR OPS WITH ‘SLOPPY’ COMMUNICATIONS http://www.democraticunderground.com/10141465357

tammywammy

(26,582 posts)
24. There are multiple pages of Latest Threads
Thu May 26, 2016, 01:23 PM
May 2016

They're in order with the newest listed first. The thread you're linking to was started last night at 10:12 pm Central time. It's listed on page 7.

http://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=latest_threads&sort1=latest&sort2=all&sort3=86400&page=7

It's not surprising that in 14 hours many other threads have been started on the site pushing it down.

It's also on the homepage: http://www.democraticunderground.com/index.php

passy

(853 posts)
17. Is that a joke, that post is pure bullshit and it only has 15 recs...
Thu May 26, 2016, 11:48 AM
May 2016

How anyone who has read the report can come up that interpretation is beyond me.
You must not have read it yourself or you wouldn't have made that post.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
33. A law professor from the University of Baltimore wrote it. Where did you get your degree? n/t
Thu May 26, 2016, 02:38 PM
May 2016

passy

(853 posts)
37. You don't need a degree to read the report, read it yourself.
Thu May 26, 2016, 04:43 PM
May 2016

From the excerpts you include in your post, it seems like he insists on comparing her actions to that of Colin Powell back in 2001 when his staff didn't even have internet access. There's a difference between using a private server and a commercial e-mail service. His argument is, well Powell did it so she could too, whereas the report is critical of both of them.
Since I don't have a law degree I'll ask you a simple questions, why was there a need to completely erase the server after they had delivered those thousands of e-mails after the FOIA request? Why would anyone destroy so much personal correspondence? Imagine if you were to write your biography how valuable that type of record might be. How about personal e-mails from friends and family, if these were letters or photographs would you simply burn them?

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
40. Colin Powell NEVER used a .gov account, though he could have. And he didn't make paper copies
Thu May 26, 2016, 04:53 PM
May 2016

of all his emails, as the policy said he should do. Instead he simply deleted the emails when he left office. And when the state department asked for them, they were told they were gone.

The law about public records makes no distinction between private emails at AOL and private emails on a personal server. But yes, you're right -- the report is critical of both Powell and Clinton. But there were NO consequences, no Congressional investigations, when Powell failed to turn over ANY emails. Just when Hillary turned over 55,000 of them. This is a BLATANT double standard.

With regard to your question about Hillary, I can't speak for her. But if I thought enemies in the government wanted to go on a public fishing expedition through all my private emails, I'd want to erase them, too.

passy

(853 posts)
44. The report is not simply about records though is it.
Thu May 26, 2016, 05:26 PM
May 2016

It's also about the security risks which were much more relevant in 2009 compared to 2001, the policies in place were also much stricter by then. All in all, the whole idea of setting up a private server in your basement showed a certain level of naiveté about how the internet functioned. You didn't have to be a computer genius in 2009 to know that foreign powers could reasonably be expected to break into a personal server using an unsecured commercial internet connection. The report even shows how Hillary was worried about opening certain suspicious looking emails. I don't think she would have been that worried about opening her State Department email, if she had chosen to use that.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
45. There is no evidence that Hillary's server was any risker -- quite the contrary, since during that
Thu May 26, 2016, 05:31 PM
May 2016

same period of time we know that hundreds of thousands of .gov emails were hacked by the Chinese.

Hillary's server, by the way, was set up with security measures. They were very conscious of security. But no system is perfect and Hillary was right to be concerned about anything that looked suspicious.

passy

(853 posts)
47. Stop deflecting
Thu May 26, 2016, 05:40 PM
May 2016

She said she messed up.
It was a bad decision, take her word for it.
Now we know how bad a decision it was.
Then we'll find out if it was illegal too.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
49. I agree it was a bad decision politically. Other than that it was a reasonable decision.
Thu May 26, 2016, 05:51 PM
May 2016

The .gov system was very clunky and eminently hackable.

Response to passy (Original post)

hunter

(38,317 posts)
30. Republicans don't use email.
Thu May 26, 2016, 01:53 PM
May 2016

The pass notes to one another while sitting in bathroom stalls.

Then they flush them.

jwirr

(39,215 posts)
35. Because they label them about the primary and move them
Thu May 26, 2016, 03:31 PM
May 2016

there. It is a way to make sure that they do not show up in any other section.

Response to passy (Original post)

passy

(853 posts)
39. You shouldn't quit, DU is a great platform for discussion
Thu May 26, 2016, 04:49 PM
May 2016

It was a good place to come to after the elections in 2004 and it still is in some way. Once this election is over and all the paid posters are gone it will be much more pleasant to be here.

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