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struggle4progress

(118,285 posts) Thu May 26, 2016, 01:15 PM May 2016

'Sovereign citizen' dispute ties up police, court (MA)

By Dave Rogers
9 hrs ago

NEWBURYPORT -- A Merrimac man who claims the government has no control over his life was thrown behind bars for a short time yesterday .. after not cooperating with court officials ...

Vital S. Rosa .. was in court .. to answer .. a summons .. for four counts of .. unregistered vehicles on his property ...

Rosa declined to step before Judge Peter Doyle after rising from his seat. When he eventually approached to the podium, Rosa interrupted the veteran judge on many occasions as Doyle tried to determine whether he gave the required information to the probation department needed for arraignment.

Doyle eventually lost patience ...

http://www.newburyportnews.com/news/local_news/sovereign-citizen-dispute-ties-up-police-court/article_661b43a3-8de2-5d02-a129-25c6781c8389.html

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'Sovereign citizen' dispute ties up police, court (MA) (Original Post) struggle4progress May 2016 OP

the "sovereign citizen" movement is a blight. nt Javaman May 2016 #1

Chuckleheads... TipTok May 2016 #2

I love a happy ending! struggle4progress May 2016 #5

I love that vid it's one for the ages lol Monk06 May 2016 #6

For your viewing pleasure, the sovereign citizen derp compilation lol Monk06 May 2016 #7

It's basically the equivilant of "Na Na na I can't hear you" ProudToBeBlueInRhody May 2016 #3

Worse than that jmowreader May 2016 #8

Sovereign citizen movement in a nutshell meow2u3 May 2016 #4

Yep- and they don't just affect the courts Lee-Lee May 2016 #10

Oh those guys are batshit Recursion May 2016 #9

Javaman

(62,530 posts)

1. the "sovereign citizen" movement is a blight. nt

Reply to struggle4progress (Original post)

Thu May 26, 2016, 03:46 PM

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TipTok

(2,474 posts)

2. Chuckleheads...

Reply to Javaman (Reply #1)

Thu May 26, 2016, 04:09 PM

May 2016

struggle4progress

(118,285 posts)

5. I love a happy ending!

Reply to TipTok (Reply #2)

Thu May 26, 2016, 07:44 PM

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Monk06

(7,675 posts)

6. I love that vid it's one for the ages lol

Reply to TipTok (Reply #2)

Fri May 27, 2016, 02:52 AM

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Monk06

(7,675 posts)

7. For your viewing pleasure, the sovereign citizen derp compilation lol

Reply to TipTok (Reply #2)

Fri May 27, 2016, 03:02 AM

May 2016

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)

3. It's basically the equivilant of "Na Na na I can't hear you"

Reply to Javaman (Reply #1)

Thu May 26, 2016, 05:14 PM

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jmowreader

(50,557 posts)

8. Worse than that

Reply to ProudToBeBlueInRhody (Reply #3)

Fri May 27, 2016, 03:22 AM

May 2016

Sovereign citizens believe laws are a one-way street: the ones made to protect the sovereign citizen from the Evil Government are valid, but the sovereign citizen isn't required to obey any laws himself unless he agrees with them (but since sovereign citizens don't agree with ANY law governing their behavior...).

meow2u3

(24,764 posts)

4. Sovereign citizen movement in a nutshell

Reply to struggle4progress (Original post)

Thu May 26, 2016, 07:34 PM

May 2016

Sovereign citizens not only think they're above the law, they also think they're a law unto themselves.

Lee-Lee

(6,324 posts)

10. Yep- and they don't just affect the courts

Reply to meow2u3 (Reply #4)

Fri May 27, 2016, 06:33 AM

May 2016

If you get into any kind of dispute with one they will use the legal system to file all sorts of bogus documents against you.

A deputy I worked with went to sell his home only to find somehow a sovereign but af had managed to file a lien against it. Everyone knew it was bogus, but it still had to be removed before the sale and that took months to make happen.

Recursion

(56,582 posts)

9. Oh those guys are batshit

Reply to struggle4progress (Original post)

Fri May 27, 2016, 04:18 AM

May 2016

Like, make-Alex-Jones-look-sane batshit

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