Compare California's recovery to Kansas' demise.

Uterine Artery Embolization?
United Arab Emirates?

They deserve the punishment they get. You vote Republican, you get Republican policies.

You vote Republican, you get their policies.

Sorry, I have stated I have little sympathy for years now.

Minnesota and California learned their lesson. Kansas needs to howl.

When it hurts so much under Republicans that they can't stand it, they will stop electing Republicans. It's that simple. It doesn't hurt enough yet.

Your lack of compassion is sickening

.....were his base.

I bet you are wrong.

Please cali, you've been here long enough to not get away with acting dumb. Poor whites and seniors are the teabagger base, especially in fucking Kansas. It's all about Jay-sus and guns.

I don't deny I am a misanthropic fallen idealist that realize that people are stupid and will vote against their own interests.

Like George Carlin, I have no stake in the outcome, but the entertainment of it all is priceless.

Make them howl. . .when it hurts too much, they will learn. Until then, my compassion is reserved for people like children starving in Africa (and working with World Hunger Year) and people railroaded into prison (working with the Innocence Project).

Same party, same teaparty base, same tax breaks, same budget cuts, same fiscal crisis. Only the names are changed.

The recalled was a sham on false charges, and the ballot was the dumbest thing I've ever seen. These people get in power by cheating and then fix it so they can't get removed.

Many people vote against them, or can't vote, you condemn an entire state over the actions of a minority? You should be condemning the people doing the crimes, not the victims (even if they did vote them in).

Victim blaming is not a progressive value.

were stupid, twice. . .now they learned. Problem solved.

Stop playing victim, tell Democrats to get off their ass and vote, then there wouldn't be a problem.

But it was not anything close to a fair ballot. You wanna talk crap about your state go ahead, but don't start in about states you are blatantly ignorant about.

and stop victim blaming, it does not belong on a progressive site.

No one ordered people to recall Gray Davis.

I have no respect for buyer's remorse. CA knew what Republicans offered. . .shit the last actor CA elected as governor fucked the state real bad, then fucked the country.

You vote Republican, you get Republican policies. IF Democrats learn from their mistakes and stop playing "victim" all the time, maybe people will learn. But it's just easier to whine and attack people who criticize the Democrats than attack Republicans to the point that people see.

So, since you want to continue this, I'll give you the last word since people on the internet love getting that last word in. HAve at it, hoss!

You can say whatever damn fool thing you want to about your own state, but when it comes to California keep your ignorant mouth shut.

You claim to be a democrat, but your words are straight out of a conservative playbook.

The Democrats didn't work hard enough to get someone elected. Suck it up, Democrats. We failed and need to learn out lesson too.

The stupid GOP outnumber the Dems in Az, simple as that. ugh. Love the state, the GOP voters, not so much.

I see those skip every election. Nothing is going to chance until they vote.

That's why the blue states tend to get bluer, the red states redder, as time goes on.

"If you go to sleep in the pigpen, don't complain when you wake up covered in pig shit."

still loving him.

of only the winning side. No one votes if they are not the winners. Everyone knows in advance who the winners will be and then they vote for them.

Your hyperbole doesn't help your argument. But it does explain your lack of compassion.

After seeing how they were fucked the first time around, the people of state have no excuse for not having massive voter turnout. What did they think would happen, he'd change his ways?

I was merely pointing out the ridiculousness of some DUers with regard to how elections work. Far too many are more than happy to put forth the idea that only repubs vote in repub-controlled states, and that Dems simply do not exist. If they did, well, why don't they vote Dems into office?

See how idiotic that sounds?

Aren't you the most?

disingenuous ....

Arizona deserves everything it gets and then some. Brewer, Douchey, Symington, Goldwater, McCain, Kyl, Flake, Arpaio, Babeu. . .the shit that my state produces is amazing. Arizonans deserve everything they get and deserve it good and hard.

Vote Republican, get Republican policies. Don't like that idea. . .find the flaw. And don't tell me not everyone votes Republican. The Republican still won. Next time, Democrats need to work harder, find a better candidate or get people more involved. . .but after this shooting in the foot primary season, good luck with energizing Democratic voters.

I was hoping that THAT honor would go to our "glorious" governor, Paul LePage, whom manages to embarrass us nationally with his temper tantrums and insanity almost daily...YIKES!

PEACE!

Like WI, NJ, NC, SC, OH, MI, IL, FL, AZ, NM and all the others that vote Republican then get surprised that they get Republican policies.

... red states realize they were suckers and they turn their states solid blue, I'll be dead and won't get to celebrate. Boo Hoo. But I will be dancin IN my grave.

going on. Reminds me of one of my friend's father in my childhood who was dirt poor and a staunch republican. I asked him once, "why do you always vote republican," and he said, " because they know how to make money." I said no more, scratching my head as a little kid wondering, then why are you dirt poor, like they're really helping you. It was like he was thinking they will shortly be making him quite wealthy.

And today we have Trump. Promising and using the uninformed segment to propel him forward. Many of the WTF's each day in my life. And the republicans acquiescing to his success, although I must say, I'd rather it be him that Cruz ... And then some democrats saying, oh, we can work with him just fine. Stockholm syndrome at work IMO. And Joseph Goebbels would be very successful in today's US.

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after work.

Our Governor and state house are Republican, but the Senate is still Democratic. And the house only went R in 2014. There is still a very strong Democratic sentiment in much of the state.

Susana Martinez, our Governor, has not been able to put through most of her agenda, fortunately.

And here's why she won election in 2010: Outgoing Governor Bill Richardson had become extremely unpopular. I only moved to this state in 2008, and I don't fully understand this. In the event, his lieutenant governor, Diane Denish, was running. Unfortunately she was tainted by her connection to his administration, and the voters went strongly for La Tejana. That's the very derogatory name by which Martinez is generally known, and reflects the fact that she was born, grew up in Texas, and went to school there.

In 2014 primary there were five candidates for Governor on the Democratic side. Unfortunately, the voters in their collective wisdom went with Gary King, son of Bruce King, a three term Governor of the state in the 1970's and '80's. This is a very small state, population just over 2 million, and lots of the residents are related to each other. It's among the reasons there is so much (in my opinion) mouth-dropping corruption here. In any case, King, was a terrible candidate. He was currently our Attorney General, and a very poor one at that.

We'll be having another election for Governor in 2018, and at this point I cannot begin to imagine who the Democrats might put up for the office. At the state level they are pitifully organized. Sigh.

There's a lot I like about living here, but it mainly has to do with the wonderful climate and the amazing clear skies I have. I am glad I do not have children in school here, because the public schools are at best mediocre. We do have some very good universities, which is nice.

But no matter what, not everyone in a state votes for the asshole governor, or senators, or the state legislatures. I do wish people here would stop characterizing entire states this way.

... are pure evil. I seriously do, no kidding. And Brownback is one of them. My heart goes out to all who have been hurt or killed by that man's actions. That would be an interesting statistic to look up on Kansas. How many deaths between 2010-2016 were due to Brownback's budget cuts, IOW preventable diseases. As well, how many climbed higher on the income scale and how many declined down the income ladder? I think those governors who harm their states should be held accountable. Every damn one of them.

who enjoy the suffering of others. Eventually, that is what the diagnosis seems to be.

... entitled Political Ponerology by Andrew M. Lobaczewski, first published in 1998, then again in 2006 with some editing.

It defines the word Ponerology as "a science on the nature of evil adjusted for political purposes."

It is NOT an easy read since it a translation from Russian (I think.. with a name like that. )
Third time's a charm, I hope. I think it really is a long drawn-out explanation of narcissism & psychopathology/sociopathology.

been going on for eons. Is this the book? http://www.ponerology.com/

Has a website google it.

But do the Republicans also see Kansas as a failure? Or do they believe that Kansas is a great success ? After all it is what they wish to do to America as a whole destroy public education, eliminate taxes on the rich and lower the stranded of living for the rest of us so over all Kansas is a great success to the 1% which is the #1 concern of todays Republicans kissing the ass of the 1%. I am sure if given the chance they will double down on this policy and take it even further both in Kansas and in America in general.

Nothing will convince them. It's like telling a Moonie he's a loonie.

Today, I really think of it as a mental disorder.

have started begging to be taxed more. They understand that taxes fuel the government and that lower taxes on businesses are not enough incentive to re-invest in their businesses. You can only re-invest as far as the market will handle in whatever it is you make or sell. So why is it that pro-business republicans seem to know absolutely nothing about how business operates?

I guess they are operating on the insanity idea: that if you do something often enough, it will eventually change for the better.

That up?

and elsewhere, you'll just have to be satisfied with my word. Or, you could look it up. I'm not going to stop you

Of course, I suspect you won't go searching, so I did it for you after all:

since it became a state. They were one of the first to abandon Roosevelt but did vote for him the first & second terms.

They also voted for Wilson and a populist earlier. They seem to jump ship when there are extreme circumstances.

So, not gonna happen any time soon.

Do you have any specific examples? Or is this just another uninformed rant, complaining that Democrats aren't as extreme on the left as the Teabaggers are on the right?

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

instead of letting Brownback's reelection campaign be about social issues.

How about exit polling, which showed that Brownback only won due to social issues?

How many times does your strategy have to fail before you decide to try something else?

Because Kansans care more for their social issues than they do their own economy, or the working poor.

And you didn't even bother to know this before you launched into a completely stupid attack on him.

If you want to understand why the majority of Democrats don't pay attention to the herbal teabagger left, this is the reason, front and center.

- C.D. Proud Member of the Reality Based Community

Seriously, the suffering of Democrats in Kansas who have been railroaded by their elected officials into 3rd world like conditions should be enough to put away the snark and instead just point out the facts...

But, if it makes you feel better to indict the entire community with sweeping generalities like "typical DU ignorance", I guess you are free to do as you wish.

On topic, the Kansas failed experiment should be part and parcel of the general election campaign. The battle lines of right and left are entrenched so deeply in this cycle that there will be little to no cross party line voting. Clinton and her gang need to start fitting EVERYTHING they do to a narrative that unifies the Democrats and pumps up turn out. There is no question that if this becomes a low turnout election, we all lose as a President Trump will make a Governor Brownback look like a statesman and scholar.

You could have fooled me. Worst, weeny campaign I ever saw. Hell of it is, he wants to run it again. It is the first time I had to actually force myself to vote for a Democrat in Kansas. There have been a few stinkers for sure but damn, he was horrid. **in Lawrence where it was safe he was a good liberal but outside I could not tell where he was going to land on any given day.

Brownback, Jindal, LePage, Christie, Walker, Rauner, Scott, Snyder, and Ducey.

Malloy is the only Democrat in the bottom 10 with the 9 Republicans listed above.

The top seven governors in approval rating are also Republicans. The Democrats seem to pretty much all be in the middle as far as approval is concerned. This was as of Nov 2015. Here is the link:

https://morningconsult.com/2015/11/20/how-do-voters-feel-about-your-governor/

And that should be highlighted at every available opportunity.

Who wants what happened to Kansas to happen Nationwide? Do the local teabaggers there have ANY COMPREHENSION of how badly they screwed up?

at any time in their existence? Because I don't think that's a concept within the workings of their minds. More like: "Never admit failure. Always project it onto a Dem. Or Obama."

He'll blame this on "Washington", on "Obama's economy", on "job-killing regulations", on "teacher unions", on G. Soros, etc.

Anything not to admit that a functioning government requires a tax base.

and they are threatening to close the public schools. Or Brownback will try to fire the state supreme court. So, I'm wondering, what happens if a state decides to close all public schools? Is there any federal recourse?
http://www.kansascity.com/news/state/kansas/article80426327.html#storylink=latest_side

he has made truly devastating cuts to libraries, K-12 schools
(while showering charter schools with hundreds millions), and
county and local governments.

The Reich aims to destroy public education, among other things.

Because of their hatred toward gays and women's rights, they will keep voting for these destructive policies.

for the stupid? No taxes, no schools, no roads, etc. ? And can the military operate bases in a state that has no public schools?

They also re-elected Pat Roberts who by the way had a pitiful performance in his debate against Orman. All he did was blame everything on Harry Reid, he had a grasp of Agricultural issues but that is it, he knew nothing else. I mean I think the guy has dementia. Huelskamp has a new ad out on TV now. All he does is load a bag of fertilizer in the back of his pickup and drive a tractor and says he stands up against Washington, no facts just stuff that means nothing to me. The courts keep ruling Brownbacks school funding budget unconstitutional, and if it isn't fixed they will have to start closing schools this summer. Good god, maybe I can start up a gofundme (spelling?) page so I can afford to MOVE!!!

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Shuts down the whole school system because the financing is unfair to the smaller school districts. And it looks like that is going to happen. The court just rejected the latest asinine proposal yesterday or the day before.

Your comment concerns me. Isn't Martinez in her last term? How much longer will she be governor?

leaving the state in droves. Companies closing, like Sprint call center. She cut about half the positions in the Child Welfare Dept as soon as she became Guv, directly leading to the death of Omaree Varella. She tried to shut down the Railrunner. She tried to decimate the movie industry that Guvs Johnson and Richardson had set up. The APS scandal with her pedophile buddy with same last name. Cut school funding. Her Peetzah Champagne bottle throwing Party. So much more. The Food Stamp scandal, telling state employees to fake people's applications for emergency food stamps so they were denied benefits. Read Joe Monahan's blog, very informative. http://joemonahansnewmexico.blogspot.com/

There's good reason to believe that KS voters did not elect Brownback governor.

Brownback very likely is governor because

1. Secretary of State Kris Kobach has suppressed a huge number of perfectly legal Democratic votes

2. the results from voting machines counting the votes in state elections never have been, are not now, and likely never will be verified, so your guess is as good as mine what the real results of the vote for governor actually were. So if I say that Brownback did not win the election, there's no way you can prove beyond a doubt that I am wrong. My guess is as good as anybody else's. The fact is NOBODY KNOWS FOR SURE WHAT THE RESULT OF BROWNBACK'S ELECTION WAS.

3. even though Beth Clarkson has noticed some suspicious statistical facts about the results of the election, particularly in Sedgwick County, the KS court system and Kris Kobach, the Secy of State, and any Republican elected official in the state are determined to keep her from getting her hands even on the scrolls from the touch-screen machines

4. voting machines have been called "trivially easy"' to rig or maliciously program. They also are unbelievably susceptible to the horrendous, most malignant, most terrible "glitch."

Anyway, you might just mention the above facts now and then. I have no way to prove that Brownback was not elected, but nobody else can prove that he was, certainly no KS Republican.

According to what I've read, Jindal basically destroyed Louisiana.

Fuck these assholes.

Tea party gods have all the levers of the government now and have had them for at least 10 years. I have no doubt that Arizona will follow suit within a few more years all the while screwing teachers, police, fire fighters and public pensions.

Yet, those who do vote in our off year elections keep voting them into office. The repukes have a voter registration advantage with independents coming in second place, but they don't vote in large numbers to make a difference especially in off year elections. So, I don't see things changing in Arizona in my lifetime.

It's not happening unless it is widely reported.