She is not a nice person, but she gets shit done.

I've never seen this before. It was so moving. I teared up more than once watching this.

It was called "holocaust class." guess what it was about.

I never actually took it since there were other things I had to take.

This would be what the right would call "Librul propaganda."

that's an amazing teacher.

unlike the one in question.

I was an Educator for many years ~ she was amazing.

How I wish that the world could have more teachers like Ms. Elliot.

I happen to be African American so it caused me to think of something that AA's can sometimes do....

Not all of course but sometimes AA's that are "lighter" in color will think that a dark in color AA is not as pretty or handsome. Yes, even today. : (

My grandfather had blue eyes and smooth brown hair -- people would say, "
" Your grandfather looks like he is White - is he White?" That seemed to raise him in the "Color Chart" of many people that we knew. He did not understand it and when people would comment about it to him he would say " I am a COLORED Man and I am proud to be a COLORED Man."

No matter how many times he would respond to it -- people would comment that they had never seen a Colored person look so White.

Even in today's world - the insecurity of being "Darker" happens in our race.

* How can I get a link to this video -- it's wonderful.... Update:
I did a google and found it. : )

and call it Liberal and Left wing indoctrination. I do remember seeing this film once.. But years after I graduated High School.

By the way, its amazing... No Green eyed people in that class?

Anyway... in my high school we grew up with all kinds of different people. We had many kinds of Asians, Native Americans, Blacks, Whites, Hispanics.. we all got along. There were never any incidents of racial tension. Yes, there were the occasional fights and squabbles but never about one group against another. No group thought of themselves as better than another. We even had an International cultural fair.. to celebrate our differences.

I loved that fair, and it was the first time I got to taste Malaysian food...or learned about dances from India. The diversity of Music was wonderful.

Thanks for posting

she couldn't remember the students name? Thats not a good teacher, hell I just finished a 4 week class and by the second week even the T.A. knew everyones name.

the situation, we don't know if the reference was a racially motivate diminutive or not.

It does racial equality no good to cry wolf EVERY time, whether or not something is actual racism or just a statement of fact, because it only confuses and antagonizes people whose only crime is that they aren't politically correct enough to avoid the problems that CAN arise from perhaps a somewhat too plain statement.

she is the one who made a mistake and when called on it she responded in that way.

racist.

says she is a racist.

BTW, she didn't just say it once...she fucking said it twice.

Jesus Christ on a Space Shuttle.

(assuming of course that the allegation is correct):

'when the student pointed out the mistake, Pyles responded, "How about black boy? Go sit down, black boy."'

she would have responded, "how about white boy? go and sit down white boy?"

Right. planet are you living on?

p.s. I am white. I have no doubt that had he been white, she would have simply asked his name. There is no question this was racist. I just hope the "nappi-headed" expelled child from another thread has his day in court too.

Ran out of ciggies that morning.

With all the Teach To THe Test crap and blaming teachers, there still are crazy ones.

Wonder why she didn't know his name.

Maybe all black boys look the same to her.

Maybe she would call an overweight kid fatso if he corrected her math, or a kid with glasses four-eyes if she dared reminded this teacher what day of the week it really was. Would that be fine with you?

pose a hypothetical group of black children and a boy who happened to be white who was the miscreant in their midst, would it necessarily PROVE racism if the woman had referred to "white boy"?

Is she guilty unless proven innocent?

Insisting that the words "black" and "boy" are ALWAYS racist is the same thing as insisting that the word "fuck" ALWAYS refers to sexual intercourse.

"Sometimes a cigar is just a cigar."

school took the teacher out is meaningless beyond that fact, not a proof of guilt.

Good luck.

okay you! I mean you! Go sit your racist ass down. Btw, what was your name?

Oh, even a small child recognized this as a blatant racist remark that he/she reported it to his mother....amazing, and you must be an adult at least over the age of 18 and you can't recognize one.

Crying "wolf"....for real????

The thing is, she called the kid the wrong name--the kid told her that she got it wrong. At that point, the appropriate thing to say is "What IS your name?" Not "I'll call you 'black boy' then..." I mean, really. I don't care if the kid was a surly little shit, or a smart-ass, or whatever. If she called the kid by the wrong name, she should try to get it right, not resort to "I don't know your name so I'll give you an appearance-based moniker."

It reminds me a lot of George Allen's "Macaca moment"--just tone deaf and dumb as dirt.

it wasn't that the teacher called him a 'black boy' because she didn't know his name ('could the black boy in the third row answer this question?'); but that she called him the wrong name; he corrected her; and she apparently took umbrage at the correction and said 'How about 'black boy'?'. I.e. that she was implying 'If you give me orders about how to address you, I'll call you something you REALLY won't like!', in this case a racial epithet. Even if the boy had been rude in the way he corrected her, this is quite unacceptable.

Of course, children and parents have been known to invent allegations about teachers, so it's still possible that this didn't happen. But if the allegation is correct, then it was racism.

Doesn't seem to be any "crying wolf" about it if a teacher does that sort of thing - and I'm glad another child went to that parent.

...is just reprehensible no mater the context.

If it wasn't recorded, though, I expect the teacher will be fine.

Do all the cewl kids post from home?

I want to know your motivation. Why go to the library and make a new user name to rattle off 20 posts, then do the same thing the next day and the next etc. What kind of jollies does it give you?

I'm sure your next username will respond though. You never disappoint.

Because you forgot to finish the joke with, "my black friend said it wasn't racist, either." Then you would have hit on every single trope racists throw out to argue that they aren't actually racist.

I doubt it was racist. What is the whole story here? Was the kid acting up and when she couldn't remember his name, she said that out of anger?

as charged as "boy" is already. adding "black" why?

The teacher may be racist or merely crazy. Defensible this really isn't.

The teacher should be fired.

I wonder if this kid is a problem and bothers teachers. She didn't use the N-word but noticing that the kid was Black was totally racist, apparently.

I hope you all turn down jury duty if you're ever asked and never have to submit yourselves to a jury of such peers.

You defended the teacher's remark AS REPORTED.

Take that faux outrage and... you know the rest.

And that's why everyone was ???

Here and elsewhere.

How about " young man go sit down" or "young man what is your name"?

Not unpaid?

Still employed?

Why?

People get fired for a lot less, and many of those aren't working with minors.

Ew. Just ew.

In fact, it's pretty standard for public employees accused of crimes as yet unproven to be put on paid leave until the case is settled. It protects the public while not punishing employees for unproven allegations.

Not sure why anyone would have a problem with it.

And it's fine until a decision is made.

The real problem is that these decisions take so long to make and that it goes through so many channels that she can get paid for quite awhile. If there was a recording she would've been gone by now though, because it would've been cut and dry.

This is one reason why the public sector is filled with cronyism, because you scratch my back, I scratch yours. People fuck up in the general business world they get fired instantly. Do not pass go, do not collect $100.

(I say that working in the public sector.)

Paid administrative leave while it's investigated.

If it happened exactly as reported, she'll be out of a job relatively soon.

slam on teachers.

You know, that sounds like the mentality of the T-people who voted for Walker. Again. "Hey, at my job at the minimart, I'd be fired in a heartbeat. I don't want THEM to get benefits and protection!"

Yes, she gets paid leave. Because she was still doing a job. We don't know what that student was doing before she uttered that unfortunate phrase. But totally penalizing her for possibly being human? No.

What poor behavior for a person who is charged with shaping young minds.

have sure promoted racism big time since Obama became President

if not sooner.

Wow....just wow.

First of all, I'm a teacher, and I've worked in all kinds of schools with all kinds of blends of socioeconomic levels and races.

I'm hearing a couple of things in this story. First of all, the student was up and walking around when he wasn't supposed to be. If I got a dollar for every time I ask a student to go sit down, I'd make more than my daily wage as a long-term sub. It gets really annoying because I'd be just about to switch the kids to something else but have to wait until those three or four stop trying to flirt with someone on the other side of the room and sit down. So, this student was up when he wasn't supposed to be, and she asked him to sit down.

Secondly, she forgot his name and said the wrong name. I've done this a million times. I had 145 students this last semester, and after subbing in ten different schools over the course of the year, I get the wrong name in my head sometimes. It really offends students when that happens, and I always apologize profusely and try to explain (if they're willing to hear--just apologize again if they're not). It's really easy to get a student's name wrong when it's similar to another student's and even easier if it's similar and the kids are similar in behavior or dress. Of course, students get my name wrong all the time, but I just ignore it and answer them anyway.

He corrected her on getting his name wrong. We don't know what that means. In my experience, there's a good chance it means he was less than respectful about it. We don't know that he was rude or disrespectful, but her response leads me to think that he was. It's easy to lose one's temper in a class where a kid just won't sit down, you're trying to get a million things done, and then he's rude when you ask him to sit down.

I'm not excusing what she did. What she said was racist and wrong. I'm betting, however, that the circumstances in the classroom weren't so cut and dried and that she normally would never say anything like that. She snapped, and it came out wrong. As for saying she wouldn't do it to a white kid, we don't know that. I've been known to tease my white kids by calling them white (school I was just in for a semester had a minority of white students), which the students also do with each other.

I think it's best to give the teacher the benefit of the doubt, write her up for having said something racist and wrong in a difficult moment, and then give her some extra training on classroom management.