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bemildred

(90,061 posts)
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 10:25 AM Jun 2016

Anti-Trump Protesters Attack Democracy in San Jose

Conor Friedersdorf

In San Jose on Thursday, a volatile crowd outside a Donald Trump rally assaulted numerous attendees. They punched a man in the face, knocking him to the ground; bloodied another man by bludgeoning the side of his head with a duffel bag; trapped a woman against a glass door, pelting her with an egg and other objects; snatched a cap off a man’s head, lighting it afire on the street soon afterward; and perpetrated other hateful acts against total strangers, with many fellow protesters cheering them on and a brave few fervently pleading for nonviolence.

The bad actors in San Jose should be arrested, prosecuted, jailed, and broadly condemned. In addition to attacking fellow human beings, they did violence to the shared right to assemble. They assaulted the American inheritance of a politics that is decided peaceably at the ballot box by the people, not in the streets through force or intimidation.

By using the preferred approach of the Donald Trump supporter who infamously sucker punched a peaceful protester, another execrable actor who ought to serve jail time for his inexcusable thuggery, San Jose’s violent anti-Trump protesters offered a reminder that beyond left and right, conservative and liberal, pro-Trump and anti-Trump, there is a broad majority of Americans who intuitively understand the peril of abiding violence in politics—who understand that it would ultimately empower the most thuggish, ruthless, impulsive sociopaths—and that it is vital to stand together on that point, now and forever after, if on nothing else.

All that would be true regardless of the horse-race implications of Thursday’s violence. It is nevertheless worth noting the likely effects of the violence. The San Jose anti-Trump protesters, like the violent anti-Trump protesters in Costa Mesa before them, more likely helped than hurt the odds of Trump being elected president.

http://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/06/anti-trump-protesters-attacked-all-of-us-in-san-jose/485444/

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Anti-Trump Protesters Attack Democracy in San Jose (Original Post) bemildred Jun 2016 OP
Yeah, I don't get what they are trying to do. JayhawkSD Jun 2016 #1
I think Nadin's point about the Prop. 187 demos is a good one. bemildred Jun 2016 #7
Two other ways of framing it: UTUSN Jun 2016 #2
Maybe another Old Codger Jun 2016 #4
That occurred to me gratuitous Jun 2016 #5
They are not consciously agents. Not at all. David__77 Jun 2016 #6
They're playing right into Trump's hands. cwydro Jun 2016 #3
 

JayhawkSD

(3,163 posts)
1. Yeah, I don't get what they are trying to do.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 11:02 AM
Jun 2016

It seems to me that they are trying to actually confirm Trump’s accusation that Mexicans are lawless thugs. As reluctant as I am to agree with anything Trump says, I’m not sure what other conclusion to draw from persons waving Mexican flags and physically attacking a peaceful assembly.

UTUSN

(70,695 posts)
2. Two other ways of framing it:
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 11:10 AM
Jun 2016

*or*:

2) Are the many, continuing manifestations at DRUMPF rallies legitimate outrage in the revolution sense against severe threats by the DRUMPF-istas?

*or*:

3) Are these specific San Jose ones just criminal delinquents exploiting the opportunity?

 

Old Codger

(4,205 posts)
4. Maybe another
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 11:22 AM
Jun 2016

Explanation? How about trump "supporters&quot hired to play that part)? he is after all a conman..

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
5. That occurred to me
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 11:28 AM
Jun 2016

Are we sure the violent folks aren't hirelings of Trump, Inc.? He has a history, as we all know.

Another question that occurs to me is, perhaps the violent protesters don't want to be remembered later on in history as going docilely to their doom. "Why didn't those people rise up against Trump? He was laying out his pogrom quite succinctly before he ever got into office. Instead, they just cast a few meaningless votes and then lined up to be exterminated." If you take Trump at his word, some people (a category which includes me and possibly you) should definitely feel that his campaign represents an existential threat.

David__77

(23,404 posts)
6. They are not consciously agents. Not at all.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 11:39 AM
Jun 2016

This is the San Francisco Bay Area. There is a strong Left movement there, as well as related Black, Chicano, Asian, and other group movements. I'm not referring to satellites of the Democratic Party. I'm referring to groups that includes communists, socialists, and various revolutionaries. See, for instance: http://revcom.us/a/441/trump-people-stand-up-to-the-fascist-pig-en.html. I don't mean to imply that those forces attacked Trump supporters. I do mean to say that I think many of those forces would be sympathetic to those attacking Trump supporters.

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