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HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 06:47 PM Jun 2016

Ethics and Science Literacy in the American Social and Political Landscape

http://rsacerich.kinja.com/ethics-and-science-literacy-in-the-american-social-and-1753487574

"“SCIENCE DOESN’T PROVE ANYTHING!” he typed in all caps from his tablet halfway around the world, connecting wirelessly, utilizing satellites orbiting the earth in the lower atmosphere, to me, on my tiny wireless phone, sitting on a bus with a small combustion engine that amazingly makes it move at high speeds towards my destination, in order to illustrate why he doesn’t believe in the theory of evolution. As much as it may appear to be a caricature of the lack of scientific literacy in America, this is an event that happens on a nearly daily basis to science communicators and science popularizers all over the country. Sir Isaac Asimov often lamented on the mantra of “My ignorance is just as good as your knowledge,” a state the electorate is, ironically, devolving into. As a culture, we have now begun to cater to this ideology by insisting on false balance over rational discourse, anecdotes over evidence, ideology over education. To myself and many of my colleagues, this is the most pronounced and dangerous problem in America today, and the place it needs to be addressed and remedied is in the classroom.

There is currently an epidemic in this country that seems harder to cure every day, it grows rapidly out of control and becomes the overriding force of the American dialogue, consuming all sense of reason and rationality in its stead. The concept at the core of this epidemic is that ethics and science are in polar opposition, and in order to be an ethical human being, you need to oppose science as an idea in and of itself, lest you be labeled an enemy by a moral majority of your peers. When the news media conducts an interview with a leading geologist, discussing the current state of plate tectonics and the current prediction models for earthquake activity in the Bay Area of California, they feel compelled to also have a guest named Jim-Bob from Pasadena, who believes that the earthquakes are really caused by demons celebrating the rampant homosexuality in San Francisco, and the only way to save ourselves is to embrace God. This is nearly the level of false balance we’ve fallen to when discussing science in America.

Nowhere is this problem more apparent than in three of the most politically and ethically charged scientific discussions in living memory. These dialogues revolve around the science of genetic engineering of seeds in agriculture, anthropogenic climate change, and vaccines and immunizations. Each of these issues has a major ethics component that people use to argue against sound science, as if they aren’t compatible with one another. In each of these topics, the false balance that people demand is the scientist discussing the science, and the layman who disagrees for ethical reasons, to be regarded as equals.

When we look at the overriding discussion on genetic modification of seeds, a major component of modern agriculture, we see a stark illustration of the poor science literacy in the public consciousness. The concept of genetic modification, without delving into the hard science, is really the process of selecting desirable traits through gene manipulation, rather than generations of cross breeding. It’s typically a more focused method that allows for less chance of error in the end product than traditional breeding methods. The primary argument against this concept is often that it isn’t “natural.” They have in their minds that scientists are taking needles and injecting harmful chemicals into seeds, and the public in general is terrified of chemicals. This highlights the lack of understanding of chemicals, and that everything on earth is made of chemical compounds, as well as the whole idea of dose and dilution. There are many substances that at a certain dose can cure an illness, while at a higher dose can kill the patient. This is common knowledge amongst the educated scientific community, and is what many see as a failing of our education system where the general public is concerned. The false balance typically used to stir the emotions of the people that don’t know any better is to point at the idea of anything created by a large corporation must be detrimental. They typically spread these messages on iPads and Windows based computers, ironically, without any such ethical qualms.

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A very good read, and rather important in regard to finding a real road to progressive action.

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Ethics and Science Literacy in the American Social and Political Landscape (Original Post) HuckleB Jun 2016 OP
Come on DU. You can be better. You can be truly progressive. HuckleB Jun 2016 #1
It's sad, isn't it? Il_Coniglietto Jun 2016 #2
Indeed. HuckleB Jun 2016 #3
. HuckleB Jun 2016 #4
Kick! Odin2005 Jun 2016 #5
Thank you. HuckleB Jun 2016 #6
OK I'll play. CanSocDem Jun 2016 #7
You don't know how to play. HuckleB Jun 2016 #8
I like the lack of response. HuckleB Jun 2016 #9
I don't participate in your OPs because I consider them unbalanced propaganda. PufPuf23 Jun 2016 #10
Nice spin. HuckleB Jun 2016 #12
This is the reason... CanSocDem Jun 2016 #13
And DU's religion kicks science's butt poster rants and raves, some more. HuckleB Jun 2016 #14
LOL Odin2005 Jun 2016 #11

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
1. Come on DU. You can be better. You can be truly progressive.
Fri Jun 3, 2016, 09:04 PM
Jun 2016

But you have to understand how the scientific process works.

Let's save this planet of ours. Please.

 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
7. OK I'll play.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:05 AM
Jun 2016


This is just more crap from ScienceINC attempting to discredit their ideological opposition as being intellectually less rigorous than themselves.

"In each of these topics, the false balance that people demand is the scientist discussing the science, and the layman who disagrees for ethical reasons, to be regarded as equals."

But your real problem is your inability or refusal to see the social and economic issues that adversely affect the social order. So-called "ethical reasons" for refusing the privately-funded hand of science is usually because of people wanting to preserve 'social order'.

Having a single corporation that controls the entire food system from seed to greasy hamburger is not the solution. Nor is having a single corporation like ModernMedicineINC have control of the health system. These are powerful monopolies, not the saviours of mankind.


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HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
8. You don't know how to play.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 11:45 AM
Jun 2016

You just keep offering up your unsupported religious views. The red herrings you offer, and the words you put in the mouths of others, so you can argue against cardboard cut-out figures of your own creation never seem to end.

Thanks for the kick!

PufPuf23

(8,776 posts)
10. I don't participate in your OPs because I consider them unbalanced propaganda.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 04:58 PM
Jun 2016

I strongly support science as an arbiter.

My past includes education and years of work experience as a Federal and academic scientist. Science and technology transfer were important aspects of my jobs when in corporate management consulting. I tend to evaluate most situations using an ecologic model including politics and economy.

HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
12. Nice spin.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 05:43 PM
Jun 2016

If my OPs are wrong, use that science background and the actual available to show that I'm wrong. If you can do that, I'll go with the evidence.

Btw, do you know which logical fallacy you're trying to employ here?

Either show, or don't bother.

I look forward to seeing the evidence you present.

 

CanSocDem

(3,286 posts)
13. This is the reason...
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:07 PM
Jun 2016


...that you don't get more response from your OP's. Aside from the fact that, as the other poster said, they are usually "unbalanced", they consistently ignore economic and sociological realities that you apparently have no knowledge of.

Most of your posts consist of emoticoms and words like "logical fallacy" and "red herring" and other lame attempts at making yourself sound well-rounded, when it is just another way of saying "I didn't read your post..."

You're wrong because you don't understand public health. To you it means mass vaccinations and frankenfood. Smart people see it differently.

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HuckleB

(35,773 posts)
14. And DU's religion kicks science's butt poster rants and raves, some more.
Tue Jun 7, 2016, 06:10 PM
Jun 2016


You know you're done after next week. Is that why you are hyperventilating now?
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