Will he be a stalker, a Don the Con supporter who hates Hispanics, or just another raving lunatic who didn't like her tweet inviting folks to the show??

I have a very bad feeling on this one.

There isn't some force-field that protects the venue from someone bringing in a weapon.

Unless there is someone wanding people at the door, the entire concept works on the honor system.

They did not do pat downs or have metal detectors.

Door guys/bouncers, not really 'security' per se. Even checking purses and backpacks isn't universal, many venues don't even do that. I have yet to see a venue that has a wand or pat down. Even so, I'm pretty surprised the guy managed to get in with two guns, two extra magazines, and a large hunting knife. That's a lot of hardware to conceal.
PS: I'm in St Petersburg, go to many venues around Tampa Bay Area.

that haven't. It does seem like a lot to smuggle in but those who are determined can usually manage.

but it seems they did not expect this from this particular crowd.

Whose lives are ruined by this senseless act.

so someone who really wanted to could probably find a way to get in .

Told him to get guns and knifes and do the deed.

There's no difficulty for a man to get his hands on a gun or two. I wonder if we could make getting a gun at least as hard as some jurisdictions are making it to get a voter registration card?

He had no criminal record.

Nor did he have a documented record of making threats to her.

I am still for the background check law, however.

Guns are too accessible.

killed an innocent, unarmed person. Yet we coddle gun fanciers and gun profiteers.

Yep - and now we'll have days of 'mentally unstable', lone-wolf BS.

let's not put gun owners who follow the law into the same basket as nutcases with access to guns.

Gun owners who follow the law are the entire reason that nutcases have access to guns in the first place.

Outlaw 'lawful gunownership' and you'll put a huge dent into gun crimes..

if "gun owners who follow the law" (even here on DU) weren't entirely hostile to any proposal that would actually help keep nutcases from having access to guns. I've gone so far as to ask them for proposals on how they'd go about it...and all I got in return was called a fascist for wanting to restrict RKBA any further than it is right now.

"Right now" ignores that current laws are ineffective and something better needs to be done.

Personally, I regard most handgun purchasers as potential "nutcases" and I'm wary of anyone who professes any fascination with guns.

Sometimes the families of the victims build little monuments with crosses, flowers, photographs, and teddy bears and such.

Every one of the shooters, gangsters, cops, even the suicidal, thought they had good reasons to own a handgun. If I thought owning a handgun would improve my life, or increase the odds of survival, that would be nuts.

Once the guns come out everything is FUBAR.

The crazy asshole who shoots first usually "wins." Those carrying guns for self defense won't know what happened until it's all over, or worse, start shooting after it's all over, contributing to the overall mayhem.

Our family used to live in one of the rougher parts of town and the shootings were always over in seconds. One exciting time a "defender" shot a power transformer up on the pole and it exploded, knocking the power out. Our next door neighbor's son got caught up in gangs and drugs and was shot to death in a drug deal gone bad.

That's how bystanders get shot. Cops shoot bystanders too. I used to play with our kids on the floor of our back bedroom whenever I heard nearby shots, waiting until the police and paramedics had cleaned up the mess, but the real danger was always the first flying bullets.

I once confronted a man holding a gun on my back porch, at night. I was taking the kitchen trash out. We looked at each other, surprised, and then he ran away, jumping over my back fence. Seconds later the police were pounding on my front door, guns drawn, demanding to run through our house. I declined. I did tell them their suspect jumped over our back fence.

My mom has a "no gun" rule in her house, we have the same rules. As a kid I saw my unarmed mom disarm a moron with a gun in anger. She broke his gun too. The asshole was probably lucky she didn't rip his arm off along with the gun. (It's also possible my mom's side of the family are pacifists by necessity, not for the religious reasons they claim.)

Yeah, it's a personal problem. I don't like guns or the people who boast about them. I've seen the consequences of gun violence. I've been in some rough situations, I've been beaten up, robbed, but never would me-with-a-gun have improved the outcome. Guns for defense are a fucking television action movie fantasy. The gangsters often get their guns by stealing them. When they break into houses, that's what they are looking for. One of those "don't mind the dogs, beware of owner" gun signs makes a house a target, not protected.

Likewise, carrying a gun makes a person a target.

No thanks.

No one is asking you to carry if you don't want to.

The issue comes when you try to enact law and policy that restrict the rights of other people so you don't feel icky.

The second amendment as it is interpreted today is abhorrent to civilized people.

There's nothing sacred about the Constitution, or our "right" to buy and horde weapons that didn't exist when the Constitution was written.

... But that falls under free speech.

Are we only updating the bits that approve of? Are you suggesting that you think the founding fathers were so ignorant as to think that firearms technology would stay at current levels in perpetuity?

profiteers, racist (majority of gun owners are white wingers), and worse.

right here in Detroit. All of them bought guns and went through all of the legal hoops to carry legally. All of them carry to protect their homes from the rampant crime in their neighborhoods. They're not crazy right-wing racist nutty George Zimmermans; they're regular folks who protect their lives and what little they have. They would never do what the crazy ass man did to that poor young lady at her concert.

It's so easy to broadbrush and hurl insults on the computer I swear.

is not protecting one's home. It's more militia, racist gun BS.

Millions of gun owners are out and about with a very small number of incidents.

Thanks for reminding me that he was 12.

No skin off your back.

Doesn't mean that it's common or something you need to concern yourself with on a daily basis.

... Until they weren't.

What an amazingly deep observation. Maybe we should just lock up everyone in anticipation of their future crimes

This guy sounds like a real waste of DNA.

A shame he wasn't aborted.

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/christina-grimmie-shot_us_575bf752e4b0e39a28adbf33

Been 12 years already. RIP Christina

Fuck.

This is one of them.