If the Left does not wake up about Islam, Trump will win
My cousin said this this afternoon. Many people are sick of this and Trump makes it easy with the bans and the killing their families. Trump knows how to channel feelings and rage, Hillary does not. Americans are a reactive bunch, let's hope this doesn't mean trump becomes President. We should know better, but so many are easily swayed.
How is the left going to respond to this without making Trump look good.
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Best part of the OP, pure comedy gold. I think Hillary should just get better at channeling feelings and rage and this whole thread can be put to rest.
I have absolutely zero clue what you're talking about.
Really, to me it makes no sense in response to my post.
The Klan claimed to act in the name of "real Americans" against those who "weren't": Catholics, Jews, immigrants of all sorts. That was the 1920s. Let's go back farther:
Catholics and Mormons as reptiles:
* Creator(s): Nast, Thomas, 1840-1902, artist
* Date Created/Published: [between 1860 and 1902]
* Medium: 1 drawing : pen and ink.
* Reproduction Number: LC-USZ62-50658 (b&w film copy neg.)
* Rights Advisory: Publication may be restricted. For information see "Cabinet of American Illustration,"
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* Access Advisory: Restricted access: Materials in this collection are often extremely fragile; most originals cannot be served.
* Call Number: CAI - Nast, no. 54 (C size) [P&P]
* Repository: Library of Congress Prints and Photographs Division Washington, D.C. 20540 USA http://hdl.loc.gov/loc.pnp/pp.print
* Notes:
o No publication information.
o (DLC/PP-1980:0080.7).
o Forms part of: Cabinet of American illustration (Library of Congress).
o Exhibit loan 4207-L.
* Subjects:
o Catholics.
o Mormans.
o Domes.
o Freedom of religion.
o Religious groups.
o Reptiles.
* Format:
o Cartoons (Commentary)
o Drawings.
* Collections:
o Cabinet of American Illustration
* Part of: Cabinet of American illustration (Library of Congress)
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Catholic bishop's mitres forming the mouths of crocodiles:
May 8, 1875
Thomas Nast
“The American River Ganges”
Children; Education, Public Schools; New York City, Education; Religion, Roman Catholic Church; Symbols, Columbia; Women, Symbolic;
This cartoon is one of Thomas Nast's most famous. It depicts Roman Catholic clergy as crocodiles invading America's shore to devour the nation's schoolchildren--white, black, American Indian, and Chinese. (The white children are prominent in front, the rest are in the background.) The public school building stands as a fortress against the threat of theocracy, but it has been bombarded and flies Old Glory upside down to signal distress.
Education in nineteenth-century America was provided by a variety of private, charitable, public, and combined public-private institutions, with the public school movement gaining strength over the decades. A major political issue during the 1870s was whether state and municipal governments should allocate funds for religiously affiliated schools, many of which were Roman Catholic. In most public schools, the Protestant version of the Bible was read, Protestant prayers were uttered, and Protestant teachers taught Protestant moral lessons. (Notice the boy in the cartoon who protects the younger students from the Catholic onslaught carries a Bible in his coat.) Catholic (and some Protestant) leaders asked that parochial schools receive their fair share of public funds. Protestant defenders of public schools erroneously considered that request to be an attempt by Catholics to destroy the spreading public school system.
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The publishers and staff of Harper’s Weekly, including cartoonist Thomas Nast, were mainly Protestant or secular liberals. Like most such Americans, they believed that the Roman Catholic Church was an antiquated, authoritarian institution that stood against the “Modernism” of a progressive society and democratic political institutions. Irish-Catholics in particular were suspected of being loyal primarily to the Vatican, rather than to the United States, and of not being capable of assimilation by nature or stubborn will. Furthermore, Irish-Catholics were overwhelmingly aligned with the Democratic Party, and more politically involved than other ethnic groups. The Republican newspaper was vehemently opposed to what it believed was the growing political and social influence of the Roman Catholic Church in the United States.
http://www.harpweek.com/09cartoon/BrowseByDateCartoon.asp?Month=May&Date=8
The vast majority of them are decent, hard-working, law-abiding citizens. If you're seriously concerned about things like radicalisation of the Muslim population...I don't really think that telling all of those people "sorry, but we'll never regard you as truly American, and your allegiance will always be suspect" is the best way forward.
It's also kind of gross and disgusting to see people falling all over themselves to shout "Islamic terrorism" in the wake of a hate crime targeting a specific minority population. When Dylann Roof shot and killed nine African-Americans in Charleston, people rightly blamed racism and not Christianity. The guy in California with a carful of guns and explosives who was on his way to do something similar at a Pride parade? He was a white Christian. Has anyone blamed Christianity and not homophobia there? Not that I've seen. We should probably be talking about the dangers of bigotry (there's a lot of it around, look at all the anti-transgender "bathroom bills"
and the problem of easy access to guns (the shooter in Orlando was a native-born US citizen who bought his guns legally).
Yeah, that seems really likely.
sounds familiar.. 
