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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPete Williams just reported
that police have had people come forward to say that they got messages from the shooter on gay dating sites.
That would make sense as people at Pulse say they recognized him.
uppityperson
(115,677 posts)annabanana
(52,791 posts)uppityperson
(115,677 posts)vdogg
(1,384 posts)SoCalNative
(4,613 posts)that several witnesses from Pulse recognized him and said that he they had seen him in there at least a dozen times before
noiretextatique
(27,275 posts)To some patrons.
jehop61
(1,735 posts)had to kill all those people because he hated who he really was 😡
justiceischeap
(14,040 posts)There are more of those folks than closeted homosexuals going off on killing rampages.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,205 posts)Chan790
(20,176 posts)I mean I'm not saying he definitely didn't case the place for a while...but 3 years seems excessive and unlikely.
TexasBushwhacker
(20,205 posts)Stinky The Clown
(67,809 posts)If true, this belies the ISIS connection. It could well have been just cover for a closeted gay man giving in to his self loathing and hatred of who he is.
It would also make this not terrorism (by the common modern definition) as everyone seems to want it to be.
Or he could have been casing the place for a planned massacre.
7962
(11,841 posts)He was reported by his co worker many times, but management did nothing. To the point the worker actually QUIT HIS JOB because he was so worried about this guy.
ProudToBeBlueInRhody
(16,399 posts)This guy's "ISIS connection" is all what he sees on TV and the internet. Same as the two fuckwads in Boston. He doesn't know all the philosophy that surrounds it. I think it's still foolish to ignore he clearly had ideas about religion and radicalism and a hatred for America and all the things it embraces and permits such as a gay club where people can openly party.
Just look at his father. That fuck should be deported to a place in Afghanistan, with no landing strip.
mainstreetonce
(4,178 posts)He confessed he went to clubs like that. Shec was asked if he was gay. She said she didn't know.
Reporter seemed to think there were reports of him being a longtime patron of the club.
monmouth4
(9,708 posts)go to NY shopping, not to go. That was verified, FBI was around here for weeks after that. This was the group of guys that lived in Delray..
philosslayer
(3,076 posts)NOT terrorism. I have been torn to shreds on this site by many when I've suggested this, but the evidence is becoming more and more clear. Of course, some are looking for the elusive "Muslim boogeyman", and ignore evidence that doesn't fit their narrative.
thesquanderer
(11,990 posts)He could have been partially motivated by gay hate and yet also partially motivated by terrorist sympathies.
IronLionZion
(45,466 posts)ck4829
(35,077 posts)That seems to be a thing murderers do.
Adam Lanza - Possibly a pedophile (Nobody will sue me for saying this, but I say this looking at his secrecy, destruction of his computer, and what can be reconstructed through his Internet history), so he killed kids and himself.
John Wayne Gacy - I think he was trying to put himself in his father's shoes in a strange way
And Omar Mateen - If, IF he was trying to keep the gay away, then murdering gays and dying in a blaze of gunfire was the ultimate way to go. His conservative view of Islam, which forbids both outright suicide and homosexuality, conflicted with how he felt. I think it's possible that he was trying to stalk gay men to kill them on an individual basis.
LeftRant
(524 posts)Let's sell him machines of death! ZZZZZ...