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Pete Williams just reported (Original Post) madaboutharry Jun 2016 OP
What do you mean, people at the pulse recognized him? uppityperson Jun 2016 #1
. BootinUp Jun 2016 #2
holy moly!. . n/t annabanana Jun 2016 #5
Thank you and the others. Off to read there. People are so weird, can be so weird uppityperson Jun 2016 #6
People said they saw him there drinking at least 4 times prior to Sunday. vdogg Jun 2016 #3
THere are reports SoCalNative Jun 2016 #4
He went there for at least 3 years, according noiretextatique Jun 2016 #14
Guess the shooter jehop61 Jun 2016 #7
Or he was straight and hated gay people. justiceischeap Jun 2016 #8
Yup, probably casing the joint n/t TexasBushwhacker Jun 2016 #12
For 3 years?! Chan790 Jun 2016 #15
Oh, I didn't realize it was for that long n/t TexasBushwhacker Jun 2016 #18
How long, if ever, before this makes it to common knowledge. Stinky The Clown Jun 2016 #9
His many previous statements show he was sympathetic to Islamists 7962 Jun 2016 #10
The 9/11 terrorists visited strip clubs as part of their last few days on Earth ProudToBeBlueInRhody Jun 2016 #11
His ex wife said mainstreetonce Jun 2016 #13
The 9/11 terrorists were here in Palm Beach the night before, told some ladies who were planning to monmouth4 Jun 2016 #22
Exactly. A hate crime. philosslayer Jun 2016 #16
Not everything has to fall into neat categories. thesquanderer Jun 2016 #19
Gawker: Orlando Shooter Was Reportedly a Regular at Pulse and Had a Profile on Gay Dating App IronLionZion Jun 2016 #17
Symbolically killing himself through killing others ck4829 Jun 2016 #20
He sounds like a mental trainwreck. LeftRant Jun 2016 #21

SoCalNative

(4,613 posts)
4. THere are reports
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 06:13 PM
Jun 2016

that several witnesses from Pulse recognized him and said that he they had seen him in there at least a dozen times before

justiceischeap

(14,040 posts)
8. Or he was straight and hated gay people.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 06:29 PM
Jun 2016

There are more of those folks than closeted homosexuals going off on killing rampages.

 

Chan790

(20,176 posts)
15. For 3 years?!
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:37 PM
Jun 2016

I mean I'm not saying he definitely didn't case the place for a while...but 3 years seems excessive and unlikely.

Stinky The Clown

(67,809 posts)
9. How long, if ever, before this makes it to common knowledge.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 06:34 PM
Jun 2016

If true, this belies the ISIS connection. It could well have been just cover for a closeted gay man giving in to his self loathing and hatred of who he is.

It would also make this not terrorism (by the common modern definition) as everyone seems to want it to be.

Or he could have been casing the place for a planned massacre.

 

7962

(11,841 posts)
10. His many previous statements show he was sympathetic to Islamists
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 07:37 PM
Jun 2016

He was reported by his co worker many times, but management did nothing. To the point the worker actually QUIT HIS JOB because he was so worried about this guy.

ProudToBeBlueInRhody

(16,399 posts)
11. The 9/11 terrorists visited strip clubs as part of their last few days on Earth
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 07:44 PM
Jun 2016

This guy's "ISIS connection" is all what he sees on TV and the internet. Same as the two fuckwads in Boston. He doesn't know all the philosophy that surrounds it. I think it's still foolish to ignore he clearly had ideas about religion and radicalism and a hatred for America and all the things it embraces and permits such as a gay club where people can openly party.

Just look at his father. That fuck should be deported to a place in Afghanistan, with no landing strip.

mainstreetonce

(4,178 posts)
13. His ex wife said
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 07:59 PM
Jun 2016

He confessed he went to clubs like that. Shec was asked if he was gay. She said she didn't know.

Reporter seemed to think there were reports of him being a longtime patron of the club.

monmouth4

(9,708 posts)
22. The 9/11 terrorists were here in Palm Beach the night before, told some ladies who were planning to
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:29 PM
Jun 2016

go to NY shopping, not to go. That was verified, FBI was around here for weeks after that. This was the group of guys that lived in Delray..

 

philosslayer

(3,076 posts)
16. Exactly. A hate crime.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:42 PM
Jun 2016

NOT terrorism. I have been torn to shreds on this site by many when I've suggested this, but the evidence is becoming more and more clear. Of course, some are looking for the elusive "Muslim boogeyman", and ignore evidence that doesn't fit their narrative.

thesquanderer

(11,990 posts)
19. Not everything has to fall into neat categories.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:53 PM
Jun 2016

He could have been partially motivated by gay hate and yet also partially motivated by terrorist sympathies.

ck4829

(35,077 posts)
20. Symbolically killing himself through killing others
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:04 PM
Jun 2016

That seems to be a thing murderers do.

Adam Lanza - Possibly a pedophile (Nobody will sue me for saying this, but I say this looking at his secrecy, destruction of his computer, and what can be reconstructed through his Internet history), so he killed kids and himself.
John Wayne Gacy - I think he was trying to put himself in his father's shoes in a strange way

And Omar Mateen - If, IF he was trying to keep the gay away, then murdering gays and dying in a blaze of gunfire was the ultimate way to go. His conservative view of Islam, which forbids both outright suicide and homosexuality, conflicted with how he felt. I think it's possible that he was trying to stalk gay men to kill them on an individual basis.

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