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sheshe2

(83,804 posts)
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 06:37 PM Jun 2016

Orlando, I Am Sorry Our Tragedy Wasn’t Enough to Save Your Loved Ones




I was sleeping in because we just got back from working in Canada. My friends came over for our scheduled morning walk. I didn’t have my phone. I came home and my phone was buzzing like crazy. “Are you okay? “Where are you?” “I’m praying for you!” “I love you!”


I still didn’t understand. I no longer have a personal Facebook and the TV wasn’t on. I don’t sign in to the news. I saw it on Twitter and watched the numbers rise in real time. First some dead, then multiple, then 20 and now 50.


My first reaction was visceral. I know the horror of waiting to hear. A helicopter flew overhead. It made everything too real. Too familiar. I panicked. I called my friend. I cried. Fifty people. I am reliving being one of the family members in wait.


And then she told me. An attack against people who are gay. A specific group. Just like last year around this time. The 17th of June. A Black church. My head is spinning.


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I am tired. I just got back from Canada. And tomorrow is Wisconsin but now I am scared. I want to crawl up in a fetal position on the sofa and watch Harry Potter movies with my son. Perhaps I will build a bullet proof barrier around my house and just order groceries from Peapod all summer. Or for the rest of our lives.


Read More: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/nelba-marquezgreene/orlando-i-am-sorry-our-tragedy-wasnt-enough-to-save-your-loved-ones_b_10442908.html

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Orlando, I Am Sorry Our Tragedy Wasn’t Enough to Save Your Loved Ones (Original Post) sheshe2 Jun 2016 OP
Will anything ever be enough? frazzled Jun 2016 #1
I know frazzled. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #2
... missingthebigdog Jun 2016 #3
heartbreaking napkinz Jun 2016 #4
It is Ana Grace's mommy speaking from her heart. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #6
It's just sad BumRushDaShow Jun 2016 #5
I know. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #8
Name one law lancer78 Jun 2016 #7
Ana Grace sheshe2 Jun 2016 #9
So you want to repeal lancer78 Jun 2016 #13
Repeal them all. sheshe2 Jun 2016 #14
So let's try nothing? ... aggiesal Jun 2016 #11
We already have lancer78 Jun 2016 #12
500... sheshe2 Jun 2016 #15
Jim Jefferies -- Gun Control IronLionZion Jun 2016 #10

frazzled

(18,402 posts)
1. Will anything ever be enough?
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 06:48 PM
Jun 2016

You just have to wonder what it takes to make things change. And it's not just about these mass killings; it's about the thousands of shootings that occur across the country, every day, every year.

I feel hopeless.

sheshe2

(83,804 posts)
2. I know frazzled.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 06:59 PM
Jun 2016

When it comes to all these shootings every damn day, we have a huge problem in this country.

When it comes to stopping this, I feel hopeless as well.

sheshe2

(83,804 posts)
6. It is Ana Grace's mommy speaking from her heart.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 07:42 PM
Jun 2016

Embracing all those in Orlando today as they were embraced so many years past.

Yes, napkinz. Heartbreaking.

BumRushDaShow

(129,165 posts)
5. It's just sad
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 07:36 PM
Jun 2016

And what is sadder is that families of the victims, as well as children from that school, learned a civics lesson about "lobbying" to try to get our Congress to listen to them and change - including them traveling to Washington D.C. several times to make their case... And it all fell on deaf ears.

And many here (including myself) had suggested that maybe... just maybe... showing the public what a young child's body looks like when riddled with the type of bullet fired from that type of gun.

Of course the decision to do that is extremely controversial. But in a similarly tragic case in the '50s, Emmett Till's mother insisted that Jet Magazine (and other black-owned media) publish a photo of her son in his casket after they managed to put him back together the best they could after what had been done to him. And believe it or not, that caused so much outrage that it lead to a movement that continues to this day (leading to the several well-known Civil Rights acts and associated legislation).

sheshe2

(83,804 posts)
8. I know.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 08:01 PM
Jun 2016

Newtown found out just how much some politicians cared.



Ana Grace~

You know what, BRDS? I agree with you. They should be seen, just like Emmett Till. They should be shoved in the faces on the NRA and anyone else that opposes simple gun regulations, though I would prefer it goes further than that.

I also believe that every adult that purchases assault weapons should be inducted immediately into the US Army. They should serve a minimum of 4 years, they after all believe they are the well armed militia the 2nd Amendment speaks of. They need to put their stupid asses where their mouth is.

Orlando, we cry for you.

 

lancer78

(1,495 posts)
7. Name one law
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 07:48 PM
Jun 2016

that was brought up after Sandy Hook happened that would have prevented this former armed security guard from acquiring any weapons.

The fact is, nothing besides a total gun ban, with police going door-to-door confiscating guns, would have prevented this tragedy or others like it.

In order to MAYBE prevent another mass shooting, you would have to abolish the 2nd, 4th, and 5th amendments.

 

lancer78

(1,495 posts)
13. So you want to repeal
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:32 PM
Jun 2016

3 of the Bill of Rights to ban something that kills 500 people a year? I lost my sister and brother in law to a drunk driver. I did not go out screaming for people to ban alcohol.

sheshe2

(83,804 posts)
14. Repeal them all.
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 10:46 PM
Jun 2016

You said 500 per year?????????????????????????

Guns kill 500 hundred people a year.


America's Top Killing Machine

Gun deaths are poised to surpass automobile deaths in the United States this year.

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For the better part of a century, the machine most likely to kill an American has been the automobile.

Car crashes killed 33,561 people in 2012, the most recent year for which data is available, according to the National Highway Traffic Safety Administration. Firearms killed 32,251 people in the United States in 2011, the most recent year for which the Centers for Disease Control has data.

But this year gun deaths are expected to surpass car deaths. That's according to a
Center for American Progress report, which cites CDC data that shows guns will kill more Americans under 25 than cars in 2015. Already more than a quarter of the teenagers—15 years old and up—who die of injuries in the United States are killed in gun-related incidents, according to the American Academy of Pediatrics.


A similar analysis by Bloomberg three years ago found shooting deaths in 2015 "will probably rise to almost 33,000, and those related to autos will decline to about 32,000, based on the 10-year average trend." And from The Economist, which wrote about the projection over the weekend:


http://www.theatlantic.com/technology/archive/2015/01/americas-top-killing-machine/384440/

500? 500? 500? WTF!

aggiesal

(8,919 posts)
11. So let's try nothing? ...
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:19 PM
Jun 2016

Oh, I'm sorry, that's exactly what we've done.

I'm getting sick and tired of hearing this excuse.

We could have enacted the AWB 2013 and improved on it.

We had each amendment you mentioned since 1789, and you
never heard about mass shootings on such a frequency that
we are currently seeing.

Prior to 1977, the NRA was a responsible organization and
wanted people to be better marksmen (or marksperson).
In 1977, they started bringing up the 2nd Amendment, and
went from an organization of helping gun owners to being
pretty much a gun manufacturers lobbying arm.

We need to start treating guns like cars.
Get a learners permit. Take a gun safety class.
Pass some physical and/or mental aptitude.
Pass some written and use tests.
Get a license.
Get liability insurance.

This does not violate the 2nd amendment. You still get to have
your guns, you just have to licensed to get it.

 

lancer78

(1,495 posts)
12. We already have
Mon Jun 13, 2016, 09:30 PM
Jun 2016

plenty of laws on the books. The AWB would not have prevented this sale as the AR15 manufacturers would find a way around the restrictions.

It is going to take a lot more than wanting to ban something that only causes 500 deaths a year to make me want to throw out the 2nd, 4th, and 5th amendments.

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