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eridani

(51,907 posts) Fri Jul 1, 2016, 05:23 AM Jul 2016

If TPP passes with Dem support, it will make us a permanent minority for the forseable future

It will be impossible for Clinton to get anything as all done as president--at least things that the 99% would like to see done.

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If TPP passes with Dem support, it will make us a permanent minority for the forseable future (Original Post) eridani Jul 2016 OP

unfair trade deals were the last nail in the coffin of the labor party. pipoman Jul 2016 #1

So you're saying if TPP passes the status quo will remain the current status? HereSince1628 Jul 2016 #2

Message from reality whatthehey Jul 2016 #3

The OP refers to support from Democratic politicians in Congress, not Democrats who get polled. merrily Jul 2016 #4

But then implies voter anger/departure because it will have passed whatthehey Jul 2016 #6

That is your assumption about the thread starting post. merrily Jul 2016 #7

So what else could make us a permanent minority? What else is being threatened but voter anger? whatthehey Jul 2016 #8

You would have to ask the OP what the OP means and what time frame is contemplated. merrily Jul 2016 #9

. MohRokTah Jul 2016 #5

pipoman

(16,038 posts)

1. unfair trade deals were the last nail in the coffin of the labor party.

Reply to eridani (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2016, 07:25 AM

Jul 2016

The Labor Party is dead.

A large block of labor went to the thugs when they were abandoned because of religion and guns.....

HereSince1628

(36,063 posts)

2. So you're saying if TPP passes the status quo will remain the current status?

Reply to eridani (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2016, 07:31 AM

Jul 2016

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)

3. Message from reality

Reply to eridani (Original post)

Fri Jul 1, 2016, 10:07 AM

Jul 2016

1) Half the people haven't a clue about the TPP

2) Of those who do, Dems support it by a large margin

https://morningconsult.com/2016/04/21/trade-talk-may-play-trail-americans-dont-know-tpp/

merrily

(45,251 posts)

4. The OP refers to support from Democratic politicians in Congress, not Democrats who get polled.

Reply to whatthehey (Reply #3)

Fri Jul 1, 2016, 10:11 AM

Jul 2016

I am not sure if the assertion is correct or incorrect, but that is a separate issue.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)

6. But then implies voter anger/departure because it will have passed

Reply to merrily (Reply #4)

Fri Jul 1, 2016, 10:26 AM

Jul 2016

That is unlikely to happen when half won't care and 58% of the informed Dem voters want it to pass.

So the damage is limited to less than a quarter of Dems who oppose it, but it's not like they all walk away. I'm pretty sure more than a quarter of Dems oppose civilian gun ownership for self defense, or the death penalty, but they elected a president under a platform supporting both.

merrily

(45,251 posts)

7. That is your assumption about the thread starting post.

Reply to whatthehey (Reply #6)

Fri Jul 1, 2016, 10:37 AM

Jul 2016

It's too terse for me to know what it is implying or why, or the time frame. For all I know, it's talking about ten years from adoption of TPP.

I don't know, but I suspect that NAFTA was less of a problem for the general public before it became law than it was ten years later. However, NAFTA did not result in the Democratic Party's being a minority party.