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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region Forums'This is a historic day': California lawmakers send governor sweeping gun control package
Spurred by outrage over recent mass shootings, California lawmakers on Thursday sent Gov. Jerry Brown an unprecedented package of gun control bills, including a ban on the sale of semiautomatic rifles with detachable magazines, background checks for those buying ammunition and new restrictions on homemade firearms.
In the wake of massacres in San Bernardino and Orlando, Fla., the flurry of legislative action once again puts California in the lead among states regulating firearms, and in stark contrast to inaction in the gridlocked Congress, officials said.
I dont know how much more blood needs to be spilled in our schools, in our community centers, in public spaces, until the members of Congress act and we can do this nationwide, Senate President Pro Tem Kevin De León (D-Los Angeles) told reporters after the vote. Until that happens, we will not stop moving forward forcefully to make sure that we protect our families, to protect our children, protect our communities. This is a historic day.
But controversy over the gun control measures reached beyond Republicans who voted against them as an erosion of the 2nd Amendment. One measure that would allow Californians to petition courts to take guns away from co-workers also drew strong objections from the American Civil Liberties Union. The vote also came against the backdrop of a political tussle between De León and Lt. Gov. Gavin Newsom, who has qualified a competing gun control ballot measure with many of the same provisions as those offered in the Legislature.
http://www.latimes.com/politics/la-pol-cal-legislature-gun-control-package-20160630-snap-story.html#nt=oft12aH-2la1
LonePirate
(13,429 posts)Lee-Lee
(6,324 posts)By law NICS can't be used for ammunition sales, so they will have to create, fund and staff a complete state level system.
NY passed it into law several years ago and has spent millions of dollars and missed multiple deadlines without the first check being done, and they had to walk back and say they won't enforce the law until some undetermined date in the future because they can't work the logistics out.
hunter
(38,322 posts)Few people think smoking is wonderful any more, not even among people who smoke. They know their habit is harmful to their own health and the health of others.
The laws changed to reflect that. We don't have to tolerate smoking in California's restaurants and other workplaces anymore. My freedom to enjoy a smoke free environment supersedes a smokers right to smoke.
Social pressures and legislation restricting guns will follow a similar trajectory.
None of us should have to live in an environment where we might be shot by a criminal, a fool, a psychopath, or by accident.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)Good look changing the Constitution.
hunter
(38,322 posts)An ugly relic of the eighteenth century, just as slavery was.
Indians causing trouble, workers striking, slaves rebelling? Call the fucking militia.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)it's still the law.
hunter
(38,322 posts)But there are laws regulating smoking.
Guns kill people.
Guns are a public health problem, just like cigarettes.
Personally, I think there are far too many fools with guns.
Straw Man
(6,625 posts)But there are laws regulating smoking.
Cars kill people too. And there are laws regulating cars. And guns.
Guns are a crime problem. If they are used legally, they pose no threat to anyone. Except, or course, in cases of legitimate self-defense, in which harm to the perpetrator is justified by prevention of harm to the victim.
cherokeeprogressive
(24,853 posts)as an assault weapon.
Hallelujah the world will surely be a safer place, won't it.
And to think... my plan was to go down in infamy with it.
Foiled.
kcr
(15,318 posts)That really is a ridiculous law, then. In that case I agree, no one is much safer.
If only the law applied to others....
Just reading posts
(688 posts)2001: "No worries. You can keep your normal capacity magazines. You just can't buy any more."
2016: "We changed our mind. Ship them out of state or turn them in to be destroyed."