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left-of-center2012

(34,195 posts)
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 06:43 AM Jul 2016

Brian Williams compares Obama to Richard Pryor

Brian Williams hit with Internet wrath after calling Obama’s speech a ‘Richard Pryor delivery’

Brian Williams found himself being slammed on Twitter again after his take on President Barack Obama’s remarks on Tuesday.

“The president was being urged by one member of the crowd to preach,” Williams said following Obama’s campaign appearance with Democratic candidate Hillary Clinton. “He seemingly tried to at one point — borrowing almost a Richard Pryor delivery to deliver the degree of his disgust and disdain for the other side, the comments clearly aimed at Donald Trump.”

Williams’ bizarre comparison between Obama and the late comedian was quickly criticized, as seen below, with at least one user bringing up the fact that Williams ended up at MSNBC following the loss of his NBC Nightly News anchor job:

Cornelius Moore @CMooreHere
"Brian Williams" called Obama's speech the Richard Pryor treatment. Next you'll say saw him on fire and helped put out the flames..
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Brian Williams compares Obama to Richard Pryor (Original Post) left-of-center2012 Jul 2016 OP
Saw that live malaise Jul 2016 #1
Help me out on this one please. CincyDem Jul 2016 #2
What possible reason is there to compare Obama to Pryor except that they're both black? yardwork Jul 2016 #3
Exactly...... Laurian Jul 2016 #4
Exactamundo. n/t oasis Jul 2016 #9
+1 DesertRat Jul 2016 #21
Factually there was nothing Obama did yesterday that was Pryor-ish, nothing. Its like he didn't uponit7771 Jul 2016 #7
So he picks a random black comedian BumRushDaShow Jul 2016 #5
great minds, I was in the middle of written mine about the random black person ... I do think he uponit7771 Jul 2016 #8
I don't see a problem here. Cartoonist Jul 2016 #6
Random [enter minority ethnicity] person conflation uponit7771 Jul 2016 #10
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #11
"if one digs deep one likely can find" BumRushDaShow Jul 2016 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author rjsquirrel Jul 2016 #15
Well it might be easier to compare within the "modern" entertainment field BumRushDaShow Jul 2016 #17
Within the "modern" period I would say Godfrey Cambridge csziggy Jul 2016 #19
Don't hear his name mentioned much anymore. BumRushDaShow Jul 2016 #20
Was George Bush ever considered to be channeling BumRushDaShow Jul 2016 #12
That would be a compliment Cartoonist Jul 2016 #13
But as the Gomer Pyle character BumRushDaShow Jul 2016 #16
I like to think ... left-of-center2012 Jul 2016 #18

CincyDem

(6,385 posts)
2. Help me out on this one please.
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 07:19 AM
Jul 2016

I think Pryor was a comic genius and a fearless communicator who used humor to call our attention to some pretty f'ing ugly truths about being black in 1970's America. He fought with addiction. And he cursed a lot. And he was at the top of his game during BHO's teen years. And he will always be a cultural touchstone for us. Nobody looked at their son and said "I hope you grow up to be like Richard Pryor". Still, he could connect and make you think differently about things.

What's the issue with the comparison? Is it because it's made by Brian Williams (who we know can be a complete asshat) so that makes it fair game? Is it because it's made by a white man so it must be racist? Is it because Pryor was defined as a coke addict more than a great communicator and the comparison is perceived to bring BHO down?

I don't remember the outrage when BHO did Al Green at the Apollo in 2012 singing "Let's stay together" (I know - more direct comparison but still...). I also don't remember the uproar when BHO channeled MLK (he's done it many times and I don't have a specific event to reference). IIRC, there are a couple instances where people had compared BHO's style in a certain speech to some of Lincoln's speeches...again, no outrage.

So what's the story here? I'm not seeing it but with so many people outraged, I have to believe I'm missing something.






yardwork

(61,703 posts)
3. What possible reason is there to compare Obama to Pryor except that they're both black?
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 07:24 AM
Jul 2016

Did Obama quote Pryor? No. Did he reference Pryor in any way? No. Is Pryor in the news lately? No.

"Hey look! The president's black! And he's kind of funny. Who was that other black comedian? Oh yeah. Richard Pryor."

Just stupid.

uponit7771

(90,359 posts)
7. Factually there was nothing Obama did yesterday that was Pryor-ish, nothing. Its like he didn't
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 07:43 AM
Jul 2016

... know anything about Richard Pryor to make that claim.

Obama was purposefully channeling MLK or Green.. not some random black person... if it wasn't Williams and

On the other hand I think Williams mispoke

BumRushDaShow

(129,428 posts)
5. So he picks a random black comedian
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 07:42 AM
Jul 2016

since he probably doesn't know too many others (although Eddie Murphy is closer to my and the President's generation), and then applied that as an analogy? Am surprised he didn't blurt out "Reverend Wright" (he probably thought that since he prefaced it with an audience member exclaiming "preach", but then substituted a random black person instead - someone essentially the polar opposite to the President.

Looking up possibilities, I suppose his brain was fixated on this character that Pryor did 40 years ago?

uponit7771

(90,359 posts)
8. great minds, I was in the middle of written mine about the random black person ... I do think he
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 07:45 AM
Jul 2016

... mispoke though, Williams doesn't come off like a winger or someone racially obtuse like Wolff

Response to uponit7771 (Reply #10)

Response to BumRushDaShow (Reply #14)

BumRushDaShow

(129,428 posts)
17. Well it might be easier to compare within the "modern" entertainment field
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 08:40 AM
Jul 2016

since you mention Letterman, etc. Going back further than that would perhaps take you to the vaudeville period.
The traditional Griot kept the history of the tribe, although I wouldn't want to conflate that role into the modern entertainers per se. I would say however, that folks like Jimmy Fallon have certainly channeled the culture in an almost scary way.

csziggy

(34,137 posts)
19. Within the "modern" period I would say Godfrey Cambridge
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 09:51 AM
Jul 2016


From an album, Toys With the World, released in 1966:



How little the world has changed!

BumRushDaShow

(129,428 posts)
20. Don't hear his name mentioned much anymore.
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 11:24 AM
Jul 2016

Of course Dick Gregory is still live and kickin' and my mother was a fan of Red Foxx (during the 50s and on)!

But as to Cambridge - "Watermelon Man" was certainly classic in an in-your-face way.



Cartoonist

(7,323 posts)
13. That would be a compliment
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 08:23 AM
Jul 2016

If someone were to compare me to George Carlin, I would take it as a compliment.

BumRushDaShow

(129,428 posts)
16. But as the Gomer Pyle character
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 08:35 AM
Jul 2016

was a caricature, rife with stereotypes to create humor, the comparison takes on a different meaning. Very different from comparing one to a specific comedian (not in character) vs some character that the comedian was portraying.

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