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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 10:21 AM Jul 2016

New student debt rules trigger frenzy

By Megan R. Wilson - 07/06/16 06:00 AM EDT

The Obama administration is moving ahead with a new regulation that could make it easier for students to seek forgiveness of their federal student loans. The proposal is roiling the higher education industry, with the backlash particularly fierce among for-profit colleges that feel they are being singled out.

Public interest groups have largely applauded the rule, but they are also upset with the Education Department and say the 530-page proposal released on June 13 does not go far enough in some cases. The regulatory push has stirred a flurry of activity at the White House.

Representatives from 50 organizations — including the offices of 14 state attorneys general — had a total of 20 meetings about the proposal in late May and early June with White House and executive branch officials.

“There’s a sense of urgency here,” said Steve Gunderson, president and CEO of Career Education Colleges and Universities (CECU), the main trade group representing the for-profit education industry.

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New student debt rules trigger frenzy (Original Post) DonViejo Jul 2016 OP
I would imagine they will just tighten up requirements on who gets the loans yeoman6987 Jul 2016 #1
That's the best course of action. Igel Jul 2016 #2
 

yeoman6987

(14,449 posts)
1. I would imagine they will just tighten up requirements on who gets the loans
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 10:28 AM
Jul 2016

Until they go after colleges for charging 24,000 a year for a state school, nothing of substance will be done. There is no reason college should cost that much. But let's go after loan companies.

Igel

(35,354 posts)
2. That's the best course of action.
Wed Jul 6, 2016, 01:04 PM
Jul 2016

If you try price-controlling schools you wind up with distortions that would lead to highly unpopular consequences in a few years.

Few would connect the two, and the connection would be denied or avoided by most: We'd have popular causes inexplicably but entailing unpopular consequences, which is the intellectual space much of the electorate dwells in.


Restrictions on who can get loans will be billed as great, since it will primarily protect the poor, meaning a disproportionate number of blacks and Latinos. In a few years they'll look back and say, "Ah, whites and the not-so-poor disproportionately get student loans. This entire idea was racist and we must liberalize loan criteria." It's what happened with house loans in 2009-2014. The period 1990-2002 was summarized in much shorter time.

There are many reasons college should cost that much. Parents and students demand a certain level of comfort. We have wellness centers, and they cost more; at one point a lot of large tuition increases covered providing of health care, and when I was in grad school there was an extra bump as student health expanded to cover reproductive health care and increased counseling. Professors demand COLAs and merit increases. IT isn't cheap. Libraries, real or virtual, are expensive. Lab equipment and supplies aren't cheap. As they expand to offer new majors or provide new research space, they have bonds to pay off. They have to replace infrastructure as it ages. And a lot of tuition goes to pay for financial aid that's not loans--the stuff we don't hear about because it's not bad news. Some increases are because college tuition includes more; in some cases, how cost increases get passed along looks different depending what side of the line you're on.

Faculty are no more productive in teaching than they were 50 years ago. But in many ways their salary is more unequal. Let's say you and Prof. X each get a 5% pay increase. You make $20k. She makes $60k (but hey, she's just starting). You get $1000 more per year, $21k/year. She gets $3000, $63k/year. She got a greater, but identical, pay increase. It works out to mean that tuition increases to account for inflation will be bigger than your pay increases to account for inflation.

We focus on things like chancellorial pay. If UCLA's chancellor got no money for his work, tuition/fees could be reduce a whopping $10/year/student. That's $3/term. But somebody would have to do what he does, or they could forgo representation at the Regents, fundraising that brings in far more than his salary, or representation at state and regional meetings.

Even Title IX in athletics was spendy. A lot of men's sports teams were popular and alumni demanded them. So did students. Title IX required at first equal $ spent on men and women. So there was some redistribution, but more money put into sports. Then it required equal bodies. That required more outreach, and ways of making it more attractive for women to participate. When I was in grad school, they added showers, trainers, more coaches, free towel service to help encourage women to participate. It flopped, but they spent the money to try.

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