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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsGreat Vox article about why the Harvard study showing black people are less often killed by police
is bunk
You have probably read about this study
No doubt that the right and the alt right are going to use it a lot. But Vox has started finding the limitation of this study. One of the most obvious is here :
but there are others at the link, and a graph, that presents the full data.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)... biased, that along with the small state sample size and the fact that blacks have weapons drawn at us on a higher rate being disconnected from the shooting stats...
more drawn weapons somehow goes against less often shot
True Earthling
(832 posts)if there is please point me to it. There never will be because it's totally subjective...one would have to be a mind reader.
There is plenty of data on LE encounters as far as who, when, where someone was stopped, what the LE's race and subjects race were, what the circumstances were, if there was resistance or a gun pulled or someone shot. These are all data points that can be compiled into a database and then examined.
One could draw a conclusion of racial bias if there is significant statistical difference between a large number of overall experiences of whites and blacks in similar circumstances. That is the only way to determine racial bias in the overall LE community...or at least those LE communities that the data was drawn from.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)"one would have to be a mind reader..."
Or simply follow the standard method of statistical probability distribution function after reading a valid sample size.
uponit7771
(90,364 posts)... shootings and concluded the arrest percentage are similar to the shootings so therefore there's no bias (mine).
But the data on the weapons pulled on blacks seems to negate that conclusion, the study needs to be peer reviewed.
Don't know why the rush to post this by NYT...
Humanist_Activist
(7,670 posts)mythology
(9,527 posts)We don't have a complete picture of police violence, or even police shootings. At best the original article was a starting point, but it can't begin to prove what the accounts of it have said.
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)shot and killed--and that there's no racial bias in the criminal justice system.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)And I see lots of DUers who make their support very clear; there are a LOT of threads here about this sickness of racism in Amurka, and a LOT of support from a LOT of people.
Everyone I know (here and IRL) reaches out to you--in solidarity. ❤️
Liberal_Stalwart71
(20,450 posts)There's a lot of ugliness on this forum, sadly.
BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)That's horrible....
I haven't happened across it---not that I read every thread here, obviously.
I'm not happy to hear that. You would think a progressive community would be well past racism.
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)Solidarity.
The lengths that some people will go to deny the obvious truth are extraordinary.
Statistical
(19,264 posts)the Police even for trivial (or nonexistent) reasons. However separate from that utterly alarming and bone chilling fact is that Blacks are stopped a lot more and hence more likely to be put in a situation where they are executed.