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Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 09:08 PM Jul 2016

Rachel just showed the lynchpin of the trump campaign:

a very heavy duty Nixon ad from 68, filled with shots of rioting, burning buildings, etc.

"we shall have order"

things are going to get very bad very soon, cause the trump campaign will do exactly what Nixon did....Rachel's talking about it now. "Nixon wanted to make people as afraid as possible"

gee, GWB in O4, with terra as the centerpiece?

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Rachel just showed the lynchpin of the trump campaign: (Original Post) Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 OP
It won't work. Hillary is no shirking violet. morningfog Jul 2016 #1
I hope you're right, but were you around in 68? the frightened populace Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #3
I agree with this assessment Skittles Jul 2016 #12
Yep....same as 1968. dixiegrrrrl Jul 2016 #19
"Shrinking violet" A HERETIC I AM Jul 2016 #17
Rachel: Nixon had a secret plan to win in Vietnam. Trump has a secret plan Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #2
A pic of Dick getting us out of Vietnam... 63splitwindow Jul 2016 #10
nixon sabotaged the peace talks certainot Jul 2016 #13
Tricky Don flamingdem Jul 2016 #4
what do you want to bet that rules committee meeting is going to just fall apart, with Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #5
Rachel was born in 1973. Bluenorthwest Jul 2016 #6
And? nolabear Jul 2016 #7
she can't help when she was born. At least Ilsa Jul 2016 #8
Fear: Standard Operating Procedure of Repubs, Conservatives, and Right Wing Authoritarians. . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2016 #9
Law and order was Nixon's Republican code The Wizard Jul 2016 #11
Law and order for its own sake. WHEN CRABS ROAR Jul 2016 #16
defaming primates? i wish there was another way....... certainot Jul 2016 #14
Oh. look at my primate-o-Americans over here. Are you the greatest? Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #22
yeah, jebus wept, that's what they've produced with certainot Jul 2016 #27
Do people know that America is much more diverse now IronLionZion Jul 2016 #15
I was just gonna say... Wednesdays Jul 2016 #20
to you and iron lion zion. what about 2004? that wasn't so long ago. bush rode the Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #21
I saw that, and thought she's spot on.Trump is a brutal/brutish version of Nixon. But think about... Hekate Jul 2016 #18
Yes malaise Jul 2016 #23
let's add one ingredient to this very brief, but effective recipe: Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #24
Well said malaise Jul 2016 #25
a toast to you! Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #26
 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
3. I hope you're right, but were you around in 68? the frightened populace
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 09:16 PM
Jul 2016

was scared just enough for Nixon to squeak out a very close race. he had to out-Wallace Wallace to do it.

the Hilton fiasco sealed Humphrey's fate, and unrest like that looms very large on the horizon

Rachel just said they are STOKING violence for just this purpose

they're not stupid. either were the Brownshirts...just very crazy, and they stopped at NOTHING

watch what happens

hope I'm wrong, but I've seen it here before, and not just once.

It's coming, and it started today, with trump's ''end of our nation'' screed.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
12. I agree with this assessment
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 11:27 PM
Jul 2016

Fox News "reporters" doing everything they can to get divisive sound bites from BLM protesters

dixiegrrrrl

(60,010 posts)
19. Yep....same as 1968.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 01:44 AM
Jul 2016

I missed trump's ''end of our nation'' screed, have been away from computer awhile.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
2. Rachel: Nixon had a secret plan to win in Vietnam. Trump has a secret plan
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 09:12 PM
Jul 2016

to defeat Isis.

Nixon called on the silent majority for support.

Trump has called for silent majority support, using those exact words. she showed an ad for something that displayed a "silent majority" motto. something for sale, I think.

 

63splitwindow

(2,657 posts)
10. A pic of Dick getting us out of Vietnam...
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 10:48 PM
Jul 2016


I wonder what the pic of us defeating ISIS by Trump's "secret plan" (after all, he DOES know more about them than any general **)
will look like.


**
 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
13. nixon sabotaged the peace talks
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 11:28 PM
Jul 2016

by telling s vietnam leaders they'd get favors for not negotiating in good faith with johnson, or something like that

same as reagan later with the october surprise

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
5. what do you want to bet that rules committee meeting is going to just fall apart, with
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 09:32 PM
Jul 2016

the advent of the 'rising terror' sweeping the land?

how long before the link between BLM and ISIS is established, just like they proved Kerry was a lying coward in his Swiftboat

Rachel is talking about the rules committee meeting. that's why I mention this. she's now listing all the senators, former presidents, big name pols, who aren't going

wondering if that changes any in the next week because of the
terrorist/ protestors

 

Bluenorthwest

(45,319 posts)
6. Rachel was born in 1973.
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 10:19 PM
Jul 2016

It's all theory to her, raised as she was by very conservative, very religious parents with a career military father and plenty of insulating money.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
8. she can't help when she was born. At least
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 10:40 PM
Jul 2016

She studied and learned her political history well enough to discern cycles and manipulation

WHEN CRABS ROAR

(3,813 posts)
16. Law and order for its own sake.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 12:26 AM
Jul 2016

Legalism is the perversion of the rule of law, when rules become fetishized over substance, as opposed to enablers of substantive virtues. Legalism makes a fetish of rules and shuts out moral, political, and social considerations.

A legalist obeys rules because he believes that rules should be followed because they are rules, and he gains a greater and more positive sense of identity when he follows rules.

In a legalistic culture, the overlay of rule-following and morality leads to a cultural tendency to think and talk about rules (instead of morality), to judge on the basis of rule-following (instead of morality), and to self-judge on the basis of rule-following (instead of goodness or virtue). The process of rule-following tends to become as important as the particular substantive harms that the rules protect. In short, the culture becomes one of “process over substance.” Legalistic cultures transform substantive debates into procedural debates. In a culture dominated by legalism, the rules themselves and the relationships between the rules and individuals and institutions dominate the conversations, becoming the topic of ultimate concern and the set of ideas around which debates are framed.

Another feature of legalism is the (related) tendency to conservatism, because all rules that are right-creating must necessarily come before the current moment or debate. If actions are judged in terms of their conformity to rules and process—without regard to their substance—how can one then change the rules or introduce new ones? Legalism enshrines—and values—laws because they are there and have been there before

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
22. Oh. look at my primate-o-Americans over here. Are you the greatest?
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 10:31 AM
Jul 2016

Do you know what I'm talking about? I have the BEST primates working for me, let me tell you. Believe it, they're amazing! Nobody knows more about primates than I do!

http://www.esquire.com/news-politics/news/a38403/how-to-sound-like-donald-trump/

 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
27. yeah, jebus wept, that's what they've produced with
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 01:39 PM
Jul 2016

their 25 years of alternate realities - it's the best they have

IronLionZion

(45,465 posts)
15. Do people know that America is much more diverse now
Mon Jul 11, 2016, 11:54 PM
Jul 2016

1968 was 48 years ago. The people who are afraid and need Donny to protect them are getting fewer every day. People who hate him are increasing every day.

America is only about 62% white, and many of those are liberals for Hillary. Demographics alone give us a major advantage over an openly divisive racist asshole who is disliked by many in his own party

The fear card is going to played for sure, but it's a losing strategy at this point.

Wednesdays

(17,384 posts)
20. I was just gonna say...
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 04:55 AM
Jul 2016

tRump needs something like 70 percent of the white vote to win. No Republican (not even Reagan) ever got those kinds of numbers.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
21. to you and iron lion zion. what about 2004? that wasn't so long ago. bush rode the
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 10:24 AM
Jul 2016

whipped up -911 hysteria, riding it to a second stolen election, and ramrodding public dissent into a very small corner, with, of course, the media following along in meek assent

toe the line, listen to the lies, let them stoke your fears

and people, if shown by the massive support for trump so far, have certainly not learned ANY lessons from past demagoguery

I hope you're right, but the media reaction to the email 'scandal,' and their slavish acceptance of trump's ridiculous comments yesterday only shore up my fear that the possibility of another groundswell of fear and ignorance is just over the horizon

I just wish we could speed up the clock, and wake up in December.

just think what it would be like for a modern day RVW to tumble out of his cot, only to see this on his room monitor:



just having a little fun while whistling past the graveyard

Hekate

(90,724 posts)
18. I saw that, and thought she's spot on.Trump is a brutal/brutish version of Nixon. But think about...
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 01:37 AM
Jul 2016

...it: How long has the GOP been working to scare the pants off the American people?

Hillary has a spine of steel -- but if Trump can stir up all the old bad ghosts of our past -- fear, anger, race -- as he has been doing -- well yes, ugly it will be. Expect it.

I'm With Her, and I Have Her Back.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
24. let's add one ingredient to this very brief, but effective recipe:
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 11:09 AM
Jul 2016

EDIT: what happened to my lede?>>>>

FEAR + IGNORANCE = FASCISIM








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