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Since the Internet began, I've been on many discussion websites, on all sorts of topics. One thing they all had in common was sites started by banned former members attacking the original site. All of them had sites like that opposing them.
From time to time, I go and look at those splinter sites that had the sole goal of attacking the original site. Almost 100% of the time, they're gone before long. They just can't maintain interest for long without some positive goal. A few stick around, though, and end up with a few members endlessly posting outdated attacks, but nobody reads them.
Pretty much, they're all better ignored than attended to.
FSogol
(45,491 posts)liberal N proud
(60,338 posts)PJMcK
(22,037 posts)BKH70041
(961 posts)If their sole objective is to just oppose Hillary and that's it, then I would agree. It seems their overall objective is to grow the progressive movement outside the Democratic Party, so with that in common they have the foundation to continue beyond the election.
For me, I would prefer that all Bernie supporters leave the Democratic party and join the Greens or create their own. These are the same people who, after the election, will turn and attack Secretary Clinton from within the party just like they have Obama, which is not good.
If one only looks at short term goals, you want them in to help elect Clinton. If you're a long-term strategist, then you want them out so they don't cause anymore harm. As it stands now, Clinton will go in with a lot of scandals following her with Republicans, progressives who have left the Democratic party, and some progressive insiders objecting at her every turn. Reducing the angles of attack would be preferable.
These are things I and other major donors discuss during our meetings with Party Leaders, Senators and House members, as I'm sure it will be a discussion in Philadelphia as we form the party platform and how funding will be distributed for the election. And it is a concern, and not just a small one.
socialist_n_TN
(11,481 posts)So if HRC is elected president, then NOBODY in the Democratic Party should question ANY of her decisions? Doesn't sound very "democratic" to me.
But I agree that they should all go and form a workers' party for the 99%. Because neither the Republicans or the Democrats are on the side of the rest of us. And that's ESPECIALLY if this mindset holds true for the Dems.
BKH70041
(961 posts)"But I agree that they should all go and form a workers' party for the 99%. Because neither the Republicans or the Democrats are on the side of the rest of us. And that's ESPECIALLY if this mindset holds true for the Dems."
I don't agree with them, however if that's the way they view events, then the solution you expressed is the same as mine. I don't see how one can be happy within a party they believe are a bunch of shills for corporate interests. And obviously they weren't.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)Exilednight
(9,359 posts)Or on any other message board.
I wish people would stop making crap up. No elected official on the federal or state level would come near this place or any other message board.
They prefer Twitter and Facebook. There's hundreds of message boards just like this, and if they can't control the message they don't want any part of it.
BKH70041
(961 posts)DUer brooklynite will be there, too. Well, not really, because he's also making it all up.
Brother Buzz
(36,445 posts)MineralMan
(146,317 posts)Tommy_Carcetti
(43,184 posts)See also: Alt-Right message boards.
Tommy_Carcetti
(43,184 posts)Of the names I saw that I recognized, 90% of them I can't say that I'd miss contributing here. Including the main contributor, who I found very boorish and lame at his attempts of humor from his time here.
I came, I saw, I meh'd. Nothing of note to talk about. Next.
Javaman
(62,531 posts)competition makes for a healthy market.
zipplewrath
(16,646 posts)If their outcome is to continue complaining about the past primary, it isn't going to last much beyond the election. If they can morph into a site for the progressive/Warren "wing" of the party, it could grow to be quite popular. Some tightening of the "rules" and over all organization will probably be necessary.
This site basically started out as an "anti-bush" site, but was able to morph into a site to discuss democratic values. Now that it has become more of the "establishment" site, there is room for an alternate site. But as FR and others have shown, it's one thing to start one, and another to actually run and grow one.
Exilednight
(9,359 posts)I've never seen you post anything positive about liberals, it's just one constant attack after another under the guise of setting the record straight.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)Why are you pretending that it did?
Exilednight
(9,359 posts)I'm not stupid.
pnwmom
(108,980 posts)to see quite a number of such sites come and go.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)There's "healthy debate" and there's "purposeless typing".
Shooting down the defenders of dead Reagans gets old after a while.