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MineralMan

(146,317 posts)
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 09:31 AM Jul 2016

Spin-off Attack Sites Typically Fail

Since the Internet began, I've been on many discussion websites, on all sorts of topics. One thing they all had in common was sites started by banned former members attacking the original site. All of them had sites like that opposing them.

From time to time, I go and look at those splinter sites that had the sole goal of attacking the original site. Almost 100% of the time, they're gone before long. They just can't maintain interest for long without some positive goal. A few stick around, though, and end up with a few members endlessly posting outdated attacks, but nobody reads them.

Pretty much, they're all better ignored than attended to.

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Spin-off Attack Sites Typically Fail (Original Post) MineralMan Jul 2016 OP
Agree: "all better ignored than attended to" n/t FSogol Jul 2016 #1
Ignoring is the best response liberal N proud Jul 2016 #2
Gee, what could you be writing about, MineralMan? (wink, n/t) PJMcK Jul 2016 #3
Generally, yes. Maybe not this case. BKH70041 Jul 2016 #4
That sounds a lot like "sit down and shut up" to me.......... socialist_n_TN Jul 2016 #5
That's more the point. BKH70041 Jul 2016 #6
+1 JustAnotherGen Jul 2016 #9
Party Leaders do not worry about that happens here Exilednight Jul 2016 #16
I'll remember that when I'm in Philly. BKH70041 Jul 2016 #19
Is the 'not to be mentioned' site, often referred to as "The Cave", still in existence? Brother Buzz Jul 2016 #7
That's not a spin-off site from DU. MineralMan Jul 2016 #11
More like a display of pathetic human sadness. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2016 #12
I saw the site in reference. Tommy_Carcetti Jul 2016 #8
ignore at your own peril. Javaman Jul 2016 #10
I know what you mean zipplewrath Jul 2016 #13
Why do you have this unhealthy obsession with Bernie and his supporters? Exilednight Jul 2016 #14
The OP didn't say a word about Bernie or his supporters. pnwmom Jul 2016 #20
it's pretty thinly veiled attack of the JPR website. I'm a bit eccentric, but Exilednight Jul 2016 #21
Why would you think that? Mineral Man has been around long enough pnwmom Jul 2016 #22
How's "An-Cap Central" . . . I mean, "Discussionist" doing? HughBeaumont Jul 2016 #15
Don't know. I never go there. MineralMan Jul 2016 #18
Pretty much true. Eleanors38 Jul 2016 #17
We have had several off of here. At least a couple in my time: tree thing, now the jackass thing nt arely staircase Jul 2016 #23

BKH70041

(961 posts)
4. Generally, yes. Maybe not this case.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 10:46 AM
Jul 2016

If their sole objective is to just oppose Hillary and that's it, then I would agree. It seems their overall objective is to grow the progressive movement outside the Democratic Party, so with that in common they have the foundation to continue beyond the election.

For me, I would prefer that all Bernie supporters leave the Democratic party and join the Greens or create their own. These are the same people who, after the election, will turn and attack Secretary Clinton from within the party just like they have Obama, which is not good.

If one only looks at short term goals, you want them in to help elect Clinton. If you're a long-term strategist, then you want them out so they don't cause anymore harm. As it stands now, Clinton will go in with a lot of scandals following her with Republicans, progressives who have left the Democratic party, and some progressive insiders objecting at her every turn. Reducing the angles of attack would be preferable.

These are things I and other major donors discuss during our meetings with Party Leaders, Senators and House members, as I'm sure it will be a discussion in Philadelphia as we form the party platform and how funding will be distributed for the election. And it is a concern, and not just a small one.

socialist_n_TN

(11,481 posts)
5. That sounds a lot like "sit down and shut up" to me..........
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 11:03 AM
Jul 2016

So if HRC is elected president, then NOBODY in the Democratic Party should question ANY of her decisions? Doesn't sound very "democratic" to me.

But I agree that they should all go and form a workers' party for the 99%. Because neither the Republicans or the Democrats are on the side of the rest of us. And that's ESPECIALLY if this mindset holds true for the Dems.

BKH70041

(961 posts)
6. That's more the point.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 11:09 AM
Jul 2016

"But I agree that they should all go and form a workers' party for the 99%. Because neither the Republicans or the Democrats are on the side of the rest of us. And that's ESPECIALLY if this mindset holds true for the Dems."

I don't agree with them, however if that's the way they view events, then the solution you expressed is the same as mine. I don't see how one can be happy within a party they believe are a bunch of shills for corporate interests. And obviously they weren't.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
16. Party Leaders do not worry about that happens here
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:06 PM
Jul 2016

Or on any other message board.

I wish people would stop making crap up. No elected official on the federal or state level would come near this place or any other message board.

They prefer Twitter and Facebook. There's hundreds of message boards just like this, and if they can't control the message they don't want any part of it.

BKH70041

(961 posts)
19. I'll remember that when I'm in Philly.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 04:17 PM
Jul 2016

DUer brooklynite will be there, too. Well, not really, because he's also making it all up.

Tommy_Carcetti

(43,184 posts)
8. I saw the site in reference.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 11:27 AM
Jul 2016

Of the names I saw that I recognized, 90% of them I can't say that I'd miss contributing here. Including the main contributor, who I found very boorish and lame at his attempts of humor from his time here.

I came, I saw, I meh'd. Nothing of note to talk about. Next.

zipplewrath

(16,646 posts)
13. I know what you mean
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 12:55 PM
Jul 2016

If their outcome is to continue complaining about the past primary, it isn't going to last much beyond the election. If they can morph into a site for the progressive/Warren "wing" of the party, it could grow to be quite popular. Some tightening of the "rules" and over all organization will probably be necessary.

This site basically started out as an "anti-bush" site, but was able to morph into a site to discuss democratic values. Now that it has become more of the "establishment" site, there is room for an alternate site. But as FR and others have shown, it's one thing to start one, and another to actually run and grow one.

Exilednight

(9,359 posts)
14. Why do you have this unhealthy obsession with Bernie and his supporters?
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 01:00 PM
Jul 2016

I've never seen you post anything positive about liberals, it's just one constant attack after another under the guise of setting the record straight.

pnwmom

(108,980 posts)
22. Why would you think that? Mineral Man has been around long enough
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 05:03 PM
Jul 2016

to see quite a number of such sites come and go.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
15. How's "An-Cap Central" . . . I mean, "Discussionist" doing?
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 01:17 PM
Jul 2016

There's "healthy debate" and there's "purposeless typing".

Shooting down the defenders of dead Reagans gets old after a while.

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