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DetlefK

(16,423 posts)
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 02:39 PM Jul 2016

"My ancestors owned your motherfucking ass. My ancestors owned your ass, bitch."

http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/my-ancestors-owned-your-ass-angry-texas-couple-yells-black-teen-does-not-belong-in-america/

According to Media Takeout, the girl was dining with her family after church at Chester’s Chicken restaurant in San Antonio and began streaming the encounter live on Facebook after the couple made racial statements.

...

“Take your n*gger ass back to Africa!” the white woman says.

...

The woman adds, “Black people don’t belong in America.”

“We’re monkeys, guys,” the teen explains to her Facebook followers as the white couple leaves. “That’s what they call us. They call us monkeys and n*ggers and nobody is paying attention. You know, I had to record it to let you all see. Because it’s real in San Antonio too. For everyone who thinks it’s not real, it’s real in San Antonio.”

“That’s the problem though,” she notes. “You can’t fight these people because that’s how you end up in jail.”
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"My ancestors owned your motherfucking ass. My ancestors owned your ass, bitch." (Original Post) DetlefK Jul 2016 OP
I just wrote, after seeing that Bernie endorsed HRC in a powerful way .... 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #1
We will rise above this crap... tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #3
WE ... are already above this crap ... We're just waiting for others to catch up. 1StrongBlackMan Jul 2016 #4
I agree... tallahasseedem Jul 2016 #6
I know what you mean. Hard to believe that vile crap is going on-but obviously it is. riversedge Jul 2016 #54
Frankly, I sometimes wish I didn't live in Minnesota, RiverNoord Jul 2016 #110
That's right!!!!!!!! rbrnmw Jul 2016 #7
been 300 years heaven05 Jul 2016 #80
you are right rbrnmw Jul 2016 #83
I want to believe it will before I die. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #98
+11111100000000000000000000000000!!! 2naSalit Jul 2016 #11
Die off is more accurate. katsy Jul 2016 #24
Sorry, but we've been waiting for them to 'die off' for 150 years now. Stonepounder Jul 2016 #65
What a profound poem katsy Jul 2016 #73
it is a song from the... 3catwoman3 Jul 2016 #86
It's a song, from South Pacific. snot Jul 2016 #91
Ty i never saw that 🙈 Nt katsy Jul 2016 #94
I have been laughing at your GIF for the last several minutes!! Thank you!! Maraya1969 Jul 2016 #99
It still makes me laugh, too. snot Jul 2016 #123
You DO have to be taught. BobTheSubgenius Jul 2016 #87
Teach Your Children Well OxQQme Jul 2016 #116
Amen! n/t paleotn Jul 2016 #40
So true, but many refuse to catch up zz-la Jul 2016 #55
That's a good way to look at it. calimary Jul 2016 #82
Hard to believe all those assholes haven't died off yet Warpy Jul 2016 #2
+11 2naSalit Jul 2016 #9
+1 n/t FSogol Jul 2016 #29
They reproduce. (n/t) Iggo Jul 2016 #43
Excellent comeback! maddiemom Jul 2016 #49
My big mouth gets me into trouble a lot Warpy Jul 2016 #52
Been goin' on for over 200 years. What makes anyone think it's gonna stop? n/t jtuck004 Jul 2016 #58
Not a damned thing Warpy Jul 2016 #62
Yeah. I grew up in the middle of deep blue FDR country, middle of the Dust Bowl. Those jtuck004 Jul 2016 #68
Maybe Required Public Service Would Help Pagan_Engineer Jul 2016 #106
Because while our progress has been too slow, it has also been measurable mythology Jul 2016 #104
"You can’t fight these people because that’s how you end up in jail" NCTraveler Jul 2016 #5
+1! 2naSalit Jul 2016 #8
+1 In_The_Wind Jul 2016 #14
Yep, and that person will feel foolish once it spreads around Facebook Exilednight Jul 2016 #18
seems to me racists never feel foolish when their sin is publicized. irisblue Jul 2016 #41
I would argue that to be inaccurate. NCTraveler Jul 2016 #51
No,no they are proud of they're behavior kacekwl Jul 2016 #48
Yes. geardaddy Jul 2016 #67
I'm sure the sentiment is real, and widely spread, whatthehey Jul 2016 #10
I agree. Kinda staged. After the introduction, both parties are shouting insults. Hoppy Jul 2016 #32
massive ignorance with a huge dose of racial hatred. spanone Jul 2016 #12
Can't fix stupid. Gotta wait for it to crawl away and die on its own--and it will, it MADem Jul 2016 #13
They don't look very wealthy JustAnotherGen Jul 2016 #15
They lost the plantation in that little altercation back in the 1860's.... Moonwalk Jul 2016 #61
I recently discovered my family owned slaves. MadCrow Jul 2016 #111
Now there's an interesting response to this woman saying her family owned slaves.... Moonwalk Jul 2016 #121
2016 America, Ladies and Gentlemen. HughBeaumont Jul 2016 #16
Yah, the white couple (especially the girl) have major issues packman Jul 2016 #17
I agree, she seems awful cheerful she got the couple upset. Hmmm...... frankieallen Jul 2016 #21
Its hard to say how one should react to being treated as less than human bhikkhu Jul 2016 #92
I got the opposite feeling from the black girl - she was trying to smile but her voice was cracking womanofthehills Jul 2016 #103
I agree wallyworld2 Jul 2016 #118
I think the wallyworld2 Jul 2016 #122
Calling someone racial names is never acceptable. I watched the video a couple times and frankieallen Jul 2016 #19
We see the end, not the beginning. Igel Jul 2016 #26
I watched it again, the girl who took the video told someone at the counter or frankieallen Jul 2016 #33
That is wallyworld2 Jul 2016 #119
The guy said something about "excuse me." joshcryer Jul 2016 #53
I had the same impression. hamsterjill Jul 2016 #69
"HOLD ME BACK!! I'M 'A KILL HER!!! (No seriously, hold me back....) HOLD ME BACK!!.... " nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2016 #20
uncivilized behavior Skittles Jul 2016 #22
Nothing shocking here... Moostache Jul 2016 #23
That's a hate crime. Of course you can fight back. R. Daneel Olivaw Jul 2016 #25
It absolutely is a hate crime philosslayer Jul 2016 #42
unfortunately, shouting matches are not against the law. n/t Calista241 Jul 2016 #85
Well actually . . FairWinds Jul 2016 #27
The Feudal System ended with the plague. Slavery in the US is barely 150 years done. WinkyDink Jul 2016 #57
Why . . FairWinds Jul 2016 #114
geez heaven05 Jul 2016 #81
What a twisted and distorted view of history. Completely false. kwassa Jul 2016 #97
Another low-IQ Trump supporter. Doodley Jul 2016 #28
Has anyone ever been told to go back to Europe? IronLionZion Jul 2016 #30
UGH blueseas Jul 2016 #60
All ugly but the hoarder in the car was just bizarre . Boy good thing they filmed it no one would Person 2713 Jul 2016 #88
It wasn't that long ago Irish and Italians auntpurl Jul 2016 #108
What. The. Fuck. Else You Are Mad Jul 2016 #31
I am certainly glad I don't have to yuiyoshida Jul 2016 #35
I didn't know you were allowed to use the world "honky" unless you were George Jefferson. zonkers Jul 2016 #34
What's even sadder is that they appear to find some pride in the idea of owning another human being Small Accumulates Jul 2016 #36
Words fail me. classof56 Jul 2016 #37
Sigh, yes I know what you mean. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #47
Oh, sheshe, it's great to see you! classof56 Jul 2016 #93
I have missed you. sheshe2 Jul 2016 #95
I hear ya, friend. classof56 Jul 2016 #117
Does that girl kiss her mom with that mouth? alfredo Jul 2016 #38
Black people don't belong in America? Here's a thought... Downtown Hound Jul 2016 #39
Sadly the racists already have a go-to explanation for that. trotsky Jul 2016 #45
it is repuke logic Skittles Jul 2016 #79
Exactly. n/t trotsky Jul 2016 #105
I'm not sure being descended from slavers and slaveholders is an honor I aspire to. Liberal Veteran Jul 2016 #44
Those videos make me incredibly SAD! SkyDaddy7 Jul 2016 #46
See comment Craig234 Jul 2016 #50
grrrr allan01 Jul 2016 #56
This is why Coolest Ranger Jul 2016 #59
Please don't lose faith. Most people don't care what color somebody is. Doodley Jul 2016 #70
Why the hell didnt the manager ask the assholes to leave? I mean do they really want to cater to a cstanleytech Jul 2016 #63
San Antonio is 30 minutes from my small dirt poor town and those RWing assholes Rex Jul 2016 #64
Why are such people even allowed to vote? bluestateguy Jul 2016 #66
Them voting is not the problem wallyworld2 Jul 2016 #120
Disgusting Calculating Jul 2016 #71
I kind wish the black lady had hit back with 'and without us you ain't got shit.' nt anigbrowl Jul 2016 #72
Probably the local deputy. Spitfire of ATJ Jul 2016 #74
There is a hilarious irony about that 'would be' barb about their ancestors Joe Chi Minh Jul 2016 #75
I just linked that story to another forum, to a guy whose avatar is the confederate flag Gabi Hayes Jul 2016 #76
Awe shucks...that poor couple just wants Lance Bass esquire Jul 2016 #77
Jerry Springer used to have better production values griloco Jul 2016 #78
Pretty sure their ancestors TNNurse Jul 2016 #84
hmm, my bet is that those arrogant, racist assholes' ancestors were sharecroppers niyad Jul 2016 #89
so, many seem to think that the whole thing was a performance piece. the sad thing is, niyad Jul 2016 #90
America will never rely simply on black activism to fix this MrScorpio Jul 2016 #96
"But what happened befooooooooooore they started filming? Huh?" alcibiades_mystery Jul 2016 #100
Message auto-removed Name removed Jul 2016 #101
Wow, some people are just horrible IgelJames4 Jul 2016 #102
In Roy Blount's account of the Pittsburgh Steelers... malthaussen Jul 2016 #107
yep - pic next to shitkickers in Webster's was the white couple NoMoreRepugs Jul 2016 #109
Standard violent anger and racist verbal assault, Mc Mike Jul 2016 #112
The white woman is a piece of shit... gregcrawford Jul 2016 #113
I have met the enemy heaven05 Jul 2016 #115
 

1StrongBlackMan

(31,849 posts)
1. I just wrote, after seeing that Bernie endorsed HRC in a powerful way ....
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 02:48 PM
Jul 2016

that today is a good day to be a Democrat ... Sadly, reading this tells me it's not such a good day to be an American.

 

RiverNoord

(1,150 posts)
110. Frankly, I sometimes wish I didn't live in Minnesota,
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 11:13 AM
Jul 2016

where it's hard to find that kind of open, mad racist fervor. Not that we don't have racism, of course (e.g., the Philando Castile murder), but, and maybe it sounds perverse, I would really like an opportunity or two to... cut loose on bastards like that.

sheshe2

(83,793 posts)
98. I want to believe it will before I die.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 11:28 PM
Jul 2016

Doubtful, still be foolish enough to believe, yet I can hope.

Stonepounder

(4,033 posts)
65. Sorry, but we've been waiting for them to 'die off' for 150 years now.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 05:27 PM
Jul 2016

And they ain't dying off. They raise the next generation of asshole bigots before they die off. My father, God rest his soul, was a true Christian. He believed that all were equal in the sight of God. If he saw a wrong, he did his best to right it. As a minister back in the 50's he signed the Fair Housing Pledge, which said you wouldn't discriminate on the basis of color when you sold you house. The church told him he couldn't do it. He did it anyway. They told him that he had to take his name off of they would fire him. He said, go ahead and fire me, but I will take to the pulpit one last time and explain to the whole congregation why I have been fired, and I will invite the media. When I was about six I had a best friend. When my birthday came around, I invited him to my party. One of my other friends asked me way I was inviting that ni**er. I didn't know what he meant. Due to my father, I had never even noticed that Lucen was black.

You've got to be taught
To hate and fear,
You've got to be taught
From year to year,
It's got to be drummed
In your dear little ear
You've got to be carefully taught.

You've got to be taught to be afraid
Of people whose eyes are oddly made,
And people whose skin is a diff'rent shade,
You've got to be carefully taught.

You've got to be taught before it's too late,
Before you are six or seven or eight,
To hate all the people your relatives hate,
You've got to be carefully taught!
-You've got to be carefully taught, South Pacific

BobTheSubgenius

(11,564 posts)
87. You DO have to be taught.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 09:32 PM
Jul 2016

My father used to tell this story from time to time. When I brought my Grade 1 class picture home, my father noticed a face that was not like the others. Thinking that this boy might be the first non-white child I had ever encountered, (Vancouver was incredibly white in those days) he wondered what my take was.

My dad: "I see there's a Chinese boy in your class."

Me (puzzled): "No one in my class speaks Chinese."

OxQQme

(2,550 posts)
116. Teach Your Children Well
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:43 PM
Jul 2016

You, who are on the road must have a code that you can live by.
And so become yourself because the past is just a good bye.
Teach your children well, their father's hell did slowly go by,
And feed them on your dreams, the one they fix, the one you'll know by.
Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you, you would cry,
So just look at them and sigh and know they love you.

And you, of the tender years can't know the fears that your elders grew by,
And so please help them with your youth, they seek the truth before they can die.
Teach your parents well, their children's hell will slowly go by,
And feed them on your dreams, the one they fix,the one you'll know by.
Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you, you would cry,
So just look at them and sigh and know they love you.

zz-la

(224 posts)
55. So true, but many refuse to catch up
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 04:51 PM
Jul 2016

They really like living in their bubble and become very angry when someone disturbs that bubble.

Warpy

(111,282 posts)
2. Hard to believe all those assholes haven't died off yet
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 02:49 PM
Jul 2016

out of sheer meanness, but I suppose they've raised their kids to be assholes just like them.

I'm so sorry that poor kid had to run into one of them. It would be so good if we could protect kids until they developed the adult skills to look hate in the eye and say "I belong here just as much as you do. Your ancestors wanted me here so much they dragged my ancestors here in chains."

Of course, she and her family are likely a lot more polite than I am.

Warpy

(111,282 posts)
52. My big mouth gets me into trouble a lot
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 04:41 PM
Jul 2016

but anyone who isn't in danger of being assaulted can feel free to use it.

Warpy

(111,282 posts)
62. Not a damned thing
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 05:14 PM
Jul 2016

What I keep hoping for is that enough of them catch a clue or kick the bucket that the few left will learn to keep their traps shut, at least in public.

Sadly, bigots of all types will always be with us. It might be a survival skill for people being invaded and colonized but once one is no longer under that kind of threat, it's just plain counterproductive.

Not to mention infuriating.

 

jtuck004

(15,882 posts)
68. Yeah. I grew up in the middle of deep blue FDR country, middle of the Dust Bowl. Those
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 05:34 PM
Jul 2016

folks had FDR's pic on the wall, may or may not have Jesus. They knew damn well who saved them.

Their children, then parents, my neighbors as far as one could see, showed up at the high school they threw me in, back in 1971. They incited their kids to violence, beating and stoning the black kids who had shown up on buses. The kids had to retreat to the DQ across the street and the police and fire rescued them. Went on for a few days, the hate went on up until I took off in the Spring of the next year to join the Navy, and presumably after.

Back then we actively intervened in people's awareness, and there was some measurable progress, but the trend toward individualism of the past 40 years or so has killed that. Such things, and their funding, have fallen out of favor. I guess people think racism and hate will just cure themselves, but left alone most cancers spread. Hate does that too.

It's amazing what we have thrown away, and are throwing away, as human resources. I don't know if we will last that much longer as a nation, but maybe that's not so bad.

Pagan_Engineer

(2 posts)
106. Maybe Required Public Service Would Help
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 09:56 AM
Jul 2016

I am a child of the the 50s and 60s deep south. The first time that I ever really got to know diversity was when I joined the Navy and went to Boot Camp. The only color allowed was recruit. We had to operate as a team to get through and graduate. I value that experience and think that if we had a national policy of service, not just the military, for all people when they reach 18 then maybe we could have some hope for the future. Otherwise, I don't know how we counter the hate that this young women experienced. These toxic people will just pass it on to their children and grandchildren.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
104. Because while our progress has been too slow, it has also been measurable
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 06:57 AM
Jul 2016

It's easy to feel like we haven't but even 20 years ago we wouldn't have elected someone like Obama. 20 years ago a guys like Corey Booker, Tom Perez and Julian Castro wouldn't be plausible VP selections.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
5. "You can’t fight these people because that’s how you end up in jail"
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 02:51 PM
Jul 2016

Recording it and making it public is fighting.

 

NCTraveler

(30,481 posts)
51. I would argue that to be inaccurate.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 04:40 PM
Jul 2016

If it were accurate we would know them by name in total. They are the exact opposite of what you say in my opinion. They are overall cowards who hate it when their words are shared outside of their hate filled little groups.

kacekwl

(7,017 posts)
48. No,no they are proud of they're behavior
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 04:27 PM
Jul 2016

This is how they speak to each other . In a Trump / Fox world they are heroes.

whatthehey

(3,660 posts)
10. I'm sure the sentiment is real, and widely spread,
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 02:55 PM
Jul 2016

but this sort of spontaneous open abuse seems a tad staged.

I've lived in some of the whitest, Wonder Bread commercial areas in the country. From literally the last exit south of Canada in rural NY to the tonier suburbs of St Paul to outside Lincoln NE where the only young black men in evidence generally play for the Huskers (slight exaggeration, but not by much.) Places far less cosmopolitan or diverse than San Antonio, and even in those places anyone that got that exercised about seeing a random black face would soon be either arrested, put firmly in their place, or die of a heart attack from apoplexy. San Antonio may not have the black pop. ratio of Baltimore, but come on, how unliklely is it that this gooberess is all that shocked and horrified to come across black people in a Church's in a city that's 7% or so black?

People will be assholes unfortunately, regardless of why they decide to unleash a given strain of assholery.

ETA - while neither wealth class nor vernacular class are 100% hereditary, I'd be surprised if her ancestors came from the level of either that formed the elite strata of society where slave owners were the norm...

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
32. I agree. Kinda staged. After the introduction, both parties are shouting insults.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:37 PM
Jul 2016

On the black side, "I'm gonna wipe your ass on the floor."

If not staged, why isn't management asking all of them to leave?

spanone

(135,846 posts)
12. massive ignorance with a huge dose of racial hatred.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 02:56 PM
Jul 2016

using that ignorant woman's logic, white people don't belong in america either....dumbfucks

MADem

(135,425 posts)
13. Can't fix stupid. Gotta wait for it to crawl away and die on its own--and it will, it
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 02:59 PM
Jul 2016

always does.

I'll bet those assholes' ancestors didn't "own" a pot to piss in, or a window to throw it out of.

If I had to guess, I'd say that genetic code has a long string of non-achievers and failures in it, culminating in the remarkable, recorded "achievement" of this latest generation of mouth-breathing morons.

Like I said--can't fix stupid.

Is that a "couple" though? Looks more like a father with his juvenile delinquent daughter. That young white woman has some major issues and some real hatred in her heart.

JustAnotherGen

(31,828 posts)
15. They don't look very wealthy
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:06 PM
Jul 2016

Or like they come from the land owning class in America . . . shouldn't it be mint juleps at the country club on a Sunday after golf - instead of a fast food joint?

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
61. They lost the plantation in that little altercation back in the 1860's....
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 05:13 PM
Jul 2016

...don't ya know? It's like when any white person does research into their ancestors and finds they were related to royalty. The fantasy of such racists is that their ancestors were plantation owners like in "Gone with the Wind." Though a tad beaten after that whole confederate flag brouhaha, the plantation romance of the old south is not, alas, dead. Not yet.

MadCrow

(155 posts)
111. I recently discovered my family owned slaves.
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 11:27 AM
Jul 2016

In my studying my family tree I had my DNA tested at Ancestry.com . My paternal ancestors came from the West Indies and many of the matches listed in the results had African ancestry. When I researched further back I found that my 4th great- grandfather had owned many slaves back in the early 1800's. I had had no idea. So the only conclusion that I could draw was that somebody back then was fooling around with the help. I went to a database of slaves registered in the Caribbean where you can see the names and descriptions of slaves who are registered as property. At least the British freed their slaves without having to resort to a Civil War and its aftermath.

Later generations in my family lost most of their wealth. My great-grandmother emigrated to the US in 1916 after she was left a widow at age 36 with 8 children and no means to support them. She went to work in NYC and was eventually able to bring all of them to the US where they settled and eventually became citizens. She was a strong woman and an inspiration.

I agree that children have to be taught to hate a particular group or religion. We should all be judged as individuals based on our character and actions.

Moonwalk

(2,322 posts)
121. Now there's an interesting response to this woman saying her family owned slaves....
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 01:50 PM
Jul 2016

Many an African American could shoot back, "My family did, too..." as, alas, the slave owner's DNA was frequently as much a part of the family history as that of the slaves...as the book "Roots" famously attests.

HughBeaumont

(24,461 posts)
16. 2016 America, Ladies and Gentlemen.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:06 PM
Jul 2016

The Racism isn't New, The Cameras Are.

But please, go on about how BLM is the "Hate Group" . . . .

 

packman

(16,296 posts)
17. Yah, the white couple (especially the girl) have major issues
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:09 PM
Jul 2016

But, I was disturbed by the smile on the black girl's face - no anger, no hurt, no rage, no sense of injustice - but a lot of "I got something to post on Facebook". Too much crap going on there.

bhikkhu

(10,718 posts)
92. Its hard to say how one should react to being treated as less than human
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 10:36 PM
Jul 2016

I can't say I know how I would react from experience. I had my ass kicked by several kids my age in high school one time, as I just smiled reflexively when they tried to pick a fight with me for no particular reason. Hit, I smiled, I don't know why, I wasn't angry at them at all, the situation seemed absurd. Perhaps its the same kind of thing.

 

frankieallen

(583 posts)
19. Calling someone racial names is never acceptable. I watched the video a couple times and
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:11 PM
Jul 2016

don't understand how this got started. Someone told someone to shutt the fuck up? All I saw was the group went over to the table, stuck a camera in there face and started calling the white people racists and verbally attacking them. Am I missing something?

Igel

(35,320 posts)
26. We see the end, not the beginning.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:32 PM
Jul 2016

Apparently the girl was upset, in a low-key way, that she was told to be respectful. And objected to being insulted, so went over with her family to pick a fight.

No, we don't see the beginning. But we can probably assume that it started not at the black family's table but between the girl and the white family, over where they were sitting.

Now, what prompted her to say they told her to be respectful? She didn't start off saying they called her names.

 

frankieallen

(583 posts)
33. I watched it again, the girl who took the video told someone at the counter or
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:50 PM
Jul 2016

The drink fountain to be respectful, not the other way around, because that person was upset about something, nothing to do with the black girl I don't think.
From what I saw in the video, I don't blame the white couple for getting upset with the black family, but there racist bullshit was inexcusable. It really showed their ignorance that they couldn't have an argument without resorting to that racist crap.

joshcryer

(62,276 posts)
53. The guy said something about "excuse me."
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 04:44 PM
Jul 2016

So that was a fight waiting to happen. My guess is one or the other was in someone's way. Young girl goes back to get her mom, escalated from there.

The irony is if these idiotic racists kept their mouth shut they'd come out looking better.

hamsterjill

(15,222 posts)
69. I had the same impression.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 05:38 PM
Jul 2016

In what I see here, I see no innocent parties.

I felt like something might have occurred between the girl and the white family when the girl was away from her family's table. She came back to the table and relayed to her mother what had happened. Then the mother of the black family went over. That's my impression, but it's really not factually supported by the video.

In no way do I condone EITHER side here. This could have escalated to a much more dangerous level very quickly if other patrons of the restaurant had decided to become involved. I would hope that the management of the restaurant had already been on the phone to police when they saw this happening. I know if I'd been in the restaurant at that time, I would have felt very threatened because of the actions of both sides.

I live in San Antonio, too, and I've never heard of a Chester's Chicken. We have Chester's Hamburgers. I assume that's a simple misprint.

Moostache

(9,897 posts)
23. Nothing shocking here...
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:24 PM
Jul 2016

That is simply the transcript of Fox News after you translate it from the 21st century Whitespeak they and their ilk use.

Substitute "n***er" with "Thug" and you are halfway home...throw in some Palinese and substitute "owned your ass" with "farce" and you're almost done...finish off with a switch from "monkeys" to the more frequently used "gang members" and that would be a wrap.

The really hard thing is getting these people to see what they look like when espousing their out-of-touch rants.

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
27. Well actually . .
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:32 PM
Jul 2016

around 20% of Africans in the US prior to the Civil War were free.
Today, millions of African Americans are descended from people who
were never slaves.

On the other hand, almost every person of European heritage in the US
is descended from people who were at one time the property of others -
i.e., serfs.

And the word "slave" itself is derived from "Slav" (people) because the
Vikings kidnapped them by the many thousands and sold them - mostly
around the Mediterranean.

The word "slave" originally had nothing to do with Africa or African people.

 

WinkyDink

(51,311 posts)
57. The Feudal System ended with the plague. Slavery in the US is barely 150 years done.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 04:57 PM
Jul 2016

But hey---Why not just post that we're all descended from Lucy?

 

FairWinds

(1,717 posts)
114. Why . .
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:29 PM
Jul 2016

do y'all find it necessary to distort what I wrote?

You might want to do some reading . .
maybe start with Henry Lewis Gates.

http://www.pbs.org/wnet/african-americans-many-rivers-to-cross/history/free-blacks-lived-in-the-north-right/

Even in the pre-civil war south, there were hundreds of
thousands of free blacks.

kwassa

(23,340 posts)
97. What a twisted and distorted view of history. Completely false.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 11:27 PM
Jul 2016

All Africans Americans are descended from slaves. Whites were never slaves in America.

other major errors:

1) Serfdom is not slavery, it is closer to the more modern phenomenon of sharecropping, another abuse heaped upon black Americans.

2) Serfdom started disappearing in Western Europe in the 1300s, and only affected those in rural settings, not urban dwellers at all. To say all whites are descended from serfs is simply false. NONE of the early immigrants to the US were refugees from serfdom.

IronLionZion

(45,463 posts)
30. Has anyone ever been told to go back to Europe?
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:35 PM
Jul 2016

I'm not even sure that would be offensive since many of motherlands of white people tend to have Democratic Socialism and seem like good places to live.

Haters gonna hate. For those who still don't get it. Do you like being associated with these idiots? Racism is all about someone somewhere might have done something someone doesn't like, so you're going to suffer for it because you look like that person. It sucks. You look like Donald Trump, so you must be just like Donald Trump. That level of nonsense is endured by many of us every damn day.









Person 2713

(3,263 posts)
88. All ugly but the hoarder in the car was just bizarre . Boy good thing they filmed it no one would
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 09:39 PM
Jul 2016

believe it. Insane

auntpurl

(4,311 posts)
108. It wasn't that long ago Irish and Italians
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 10:03 AM
Jul 2016

were told to go back where they came from. Obviously there's no comparison to the racism faced by AA's, but yes, immigrants have always been victims of xenophobia.

yuiyoshida

(41,833 posts)
35. I am certainly glad I don't have to
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:56 PM
Jul 2016

face this on a daily basis. I love living in the bay area..where people do seem to respect one another.

Small Accumulates

(149 posts)
36. What's even sadder is that they appear to find some pride in the idea of owning another human being
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:57 PM
Jul 2016

As if that made them grander, more entitled than they actually already are. In fact, that would make them lower, lesser in the eyes of moral human beings.

classof56

(5,376 posts)
37. Words fail me.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 03:59 PM
Jul 2016

Totally disgusting might be the only appropriate response. I have family in San Antonio. I'm aware they are really Right-Wing anti-Obama types, but Lord, I hope they would not engage in this kind of ugly destructive rhetoric. Haven't heard from them in awhile. Breaks my heart that this might be their mindset, them being good catholics and all.

Sigh...sometimes I just wanta give up!

classof56

(5,376 posts)
93. Oh, sheshe, it's great to see you!
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 11:12 PM
Jul 2016

I've been off the grid for awhile, now back on and love it when you post. Thanks for this--lifts my spirit! And hugs back atcha!

classof56

(5,376 posts)
117. I hear ya, friend.
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 01:09 PM
Jul 2016

I've been dealing with issues, as well, compounded by the awful, sinking feeling regarding the election. Keep reminding myself to Keep the Faith, as we used to say back in the 60s. Your hugs help, lemme tell ya!

Blessings!

Downtown Hound

(12,618 posts)
39. Black people don't belong in America? Here's a thought...
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 04:02 PM
Jul 2016

Perhaps your lazy-ass, deadbeat, entitled, and spoiled ancestors should have gotten off their pathetic asses and done their own work instead of bringing them over to America in chains to do it for them.

Just a thought.

trotsky

(49,533 posts)
45. Sadly the racists already have a go-to explanation for that.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 04:19 PM
Jul 2016

You see, slavery in the US only happened because OTHER Africans betrayed their own people and sold them into slavery. A kernel of truth, but exaggerated in the standard right-wing way to "neutralize" (in their minds) the reality of slavery. The right-wing racists have created this bullshit alternate reading of history to justify their hatred.

Skittles

(153,169 posts)
79. it is repuke logic
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 07:22 PM
Jul 2016

it's OK for me to BUY a human being, as long as someone is willing to SELL me a human being

Liberal Veteran

(22,239 posts)
44. I'm not sure being descended from slavers and slaveholders is an honor I aspire to.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 04:08 PM
Jul 2016

Going from slaveholders to bigots in 200 years isn't exactly an accomplishment to brag about.

SkyDaddy7

(6,045 posts)
46. Those videos make me incredibly SAD!
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 04:24 PM
Jul 2016

I'm so glad the African American women stuck up for themselves but I cringe for their safety at the same time. Plus, getting into a public shouting match with redneck racist is NEVER A GOOD THING.

 

Craig234

(335 posts)
50. See comment
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 04:37 PM
Jul 2016

You don't fight those people because violence is the wrong response.

Tell the store manager about their actions and have them thrown out.

Speak back to them that they're idiots and bigots.

Call the police if you feel it's appropriate about their harassing you.

But the reason not to use violence isn't that you get arrested, but that it's the wrong response - just as they are wrong.

allan01

(1,950 posts)
56. grrrr
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 04:52 PM
Jul 2016

i cant stand stupidity for stupidity sake , i cant stand fear for fears sake , and i am seeing them together right now , and it is scarry

Coolest Ranger

(2,034 posts)
59. This is why
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 05:10 PM
Jul 2016

I have no hope or faith in the Human race. I can't tell you how many times in my life I've been called the n word. and I want to lash out so bad against the person who called me that but I had to just swallow my pride and walk away because i can't fight worth a damn.

Doodley

(9,095 posts)
70. Please don't lose faith. Most people don't care what color somebody is.
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 05:58 PM
Jul 2016

I see young people who are more outspoken than ever about racism, about sexism, about social injustice, and the environment. This is the future. Yes, there are many who have had racism drummed into them and aren't smart enough or mature enough to see that is wrong, but they are a minority. Trump is only at around 25% among young voters.

cstanleytech

(26,299 posts)
63. Why the hell didnt the manager ask the assholes to leave? I mean do they really want to cater to a
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 05:15 PM
Jul 2016

bunch of racist assholes?

 

Rex

(65,616 posts)
64. San Antonio is 30 minutes from my small dirt poor town and those RWing assholes
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 05:16 PM
Jul 2016

could be from it! We have disgusting birthers all around this area, they have the collective IQ of a carrot.

bluestateguy

(44,173 posts)
66. Why are such people even allowed to vote?
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 05:29 PM
Jul 2016

Seriously, disenfranchise the racist, redneck hayseeds.

No voting allowed for racists.

wallyworld2

(375 posts)
120. Them voting is not the problem
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 01:35 PM
Jul 2016

People of good will not voting is the problem

We outnumber the haters by a huge percentage and we are not voting

Calculating

(2,955 posts)
71. Disgusting
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 05:59 PM
Jul 2016

And the most disturbing fact is people like her are allowed to breed and raise more racists into the world.

Joe Chi Minh

(15,229 posts)
75. There is a hilarious irony about that 'would be' barb about their ancestors
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 07:08 PM
Jul 2016

owning the ancestors of the OP and her friends, because literally several million African Americans are known to be descended from William the Conqueror, would certainly have owned ancestors of those whites in the chicken restaurant as serfs.

 

Gabi Hayes

(28,795 posts)
76. I just linked that story to another forum, to a guy whose avatar is the confederate flag
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 07:17 PM
Jul 2016

so happy that she got it recorded

niyad

(113,411 posts)
89. hmm, my bet is that those arrogant, racist assholes' ancestors were sharecroppers
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 09:51 PM
Jul 2016

or indentured servants.

niyad

(113,411 posts)
90. so, many seem to think that the whole thing was a performance piece. the sad thing is,
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 09:54 PM
Jul 2016

though, that such a thing actually happening would not surprise any of us these days. the hatred and ignorance is out there for all to see, no longer feeling the need to hide under the very thin veneer of social acceptability.

MrScorpio

(73,631 posts)
96. America will never rely simply on black activism to fix this
Tue Jul 12, 2016, 11:24 PM
Jul 2016

The only thing that we are allowed to do is raise general awareness... And we're barely allowed to do that.

The only people who can put white supremacy and anti-black bias to an end are white peoples themselves. Although we're the targets of oppression, this has always been a problem by, for and of the white majority and it won't go away until the white majority fixes it.

Response to DetlefK (Original post)

 

IgelJames4

(50 posts)
102. Wow, some people are just horrible
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 02:54 AM
Jul 2016

I don't know how I would have reacted to that kind of awful abuse. Frankly, just reading that made my blood boil. It's a pity I have to live in the same country as these racist idiots, argh.

malthaussen

(17,205 posts)
107. In Roy Blount's account of the Pittsburgh Steelers...
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 10:00 AM
Jul 2016

... Cornerback Mel Blount tells Roy: "Your granddaddy probably owned my granddaddy." Whereupon Roy comes back with "My granddaddy was dirt poor and didn't own anything."

-- Mal

Mc Mike

(9,114 posts)
112. Standard violent anger and racist verbal assault,
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:14 PM
Jul 2016

from the same side that claims there is no racism in America, and anyone who claims there is is a racist.

They're on the attack, screaming and crying about how they're under attack.

gregcrawford

(2,382 posts)
113. The white woman is a piece of shit...
Wed Jul 13, 2016, 12:24 PM
Jul 2016

... who will likely whelp more inbred mental defectives just like her. These people disgust me.

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