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http://www.rawstory.com/2016/07/my-ancestors-owned-your-ass-angry-texas-couple-yells-black-teen-does-not-belong-in-america/According to Media Takeout, the girl was dining with her family after church at Chesters Chicken restaurant in San Antonio and began streaming the encounter live on Facebook after the couple made racial statements.
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Take your n*gger ass back to Africa! the white woman says.
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The woman adds, Black people dont belong in America.
Were monkeys, guys, the teen explains to her Facebook followers as the white couple leaves. Thats what they call us. They call us monkeys and n*ggers and nobody is paying attention. You know, I had to record it to let you all see. Because its real in San Antonio too. For everyone who thinks its not real, its real in San Antonio.
Thats the problem though, she notes. You cant fight these people because thats how you end up in jail.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)that today is a good day to be a Democrat ... Sadly, reading this tells me it's not such a good day to be an American.
tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)It's disgusting.
1StrongBlackMan
(31,849 posts)tallahasseedem
(6,716 posts)I'm just at a loss for words when I read this stuff. It's like a bad dream.
riversedge
(70,246 posts)RiverNoord
(1,150 posts)where it's hard to find that kind of open, mad racist fervor. Not that we don't have racism, of course (e.g., the Philando Castile murder), but, and maybe it sounds perverse, I would really like an opportunity or two to... cut loose on bastards like that.
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)some just need to catch up
heaven05
(18,124 posts)ain't caught up yet...........
rbrnmw
(7,160 posts)sheshe2
(83,793 posts)Doubtful, still be foolish enough to believe, yet I can hope.
2naSalit
(86,650 posts)katsy
(4,246 posts)They carry their hatred to a bitter lonely end.
Stonepounder
(4,033 posts)And they ain't dying off. They raise the next generation of asshole bigots before they die off. My father, God rest his soul, was a true Christian. He believed that all were equal in the sight of God. If he saw a wrong, he did his best to right it. As a minister back in the 50's he signed the Fair Housing Pledge, which said you wouldn't discriminate on the basis of color when you sold you house. The church told him he couldn't do it. He did it anyway. They told him that he had to take his name off of they would fire him. He said, go ahead and fire me, but I will take to the pulpit one last time and explain to the whole congregation why I have been fired, and I will invite the media. When I was about six I had a best friend. When my birthday came around, I invited him to my party. One of my other friends asked me way I was inviting that ni**er. I didn't know what he meant. Due to my father, I had never even noticed that Lucen was black.
You've got to be taught
To hate and fear,
You've got to be taught
From year to year,
It's got to be drummed
In your dear little ear
You've got to be carefully taught.
You've got to be taught to be afraid
Of people whose eyes are oddly made,
And people whose skin is a diff'rent shade,
You've got to be carefully taught.
You've got to be taught before it's too late,
Before you are six or seven or eight,
To hate all the people your relatives hate,
You've got to be carefully taught!
-You've got to be carefully taught, South Pacific
katsy
(4,246 posts)I'm passing it to my children.
Ty
3catwoman3
(24,007 posts)...show South Pacific.
snot
(10,530 posts)katsy
(4,246 posts)Maraya1969
(22,486 posts)snot
(10,530 posts)BobTheSubgenius
(11,564 posts)My father used to tell this story from time to time. When I brought my Grade 1 class picture home, my father noticed a face that was not like the others. Thinking that this boy might be the first non-white child I had ever encountered, (Vancouver was incredibly white in those days) he wondered what my take was.
My dad: "I see there's a Chinese boy in your class."
Me (puzzled): "No one in my class speaks Chinese."
OxQQme
(2,550 posts)You, who are on the road must have a code that you can live by.
And so become yourself because the past is just a good bye.
Teach your children well, their father's hell did slowly go by,
And feed them on your dreams, the one they fix, the one you'll know by.
Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you, you would cry,
So just look at them and sigh and know they love you.
And you, of the tender years can't know the fears that your elders grew by,
And so please help them with your youth, they seek the truth before they can die.
Teach your parents well, their children's hell will slowly go by,
And feed them on your dreams, the one they fix,the one you'll know by.
Don't you ever ask them why, if they told you, you would cry,
So just look at them and sigh and know they love you.
paleotn
(17,931 posts)zz-la
(224 posts)They really like living in their bubble and become very angry when someone disturbs that bubble.
calimary
(81,332 posts)Wonder how long the waiting will drag on, though, 'eh?
Warpy
(111,282 posts)out of sheer meanness, but I suppose they've raised their kids to be assholes just like them.
I'm so sorry that poor kid had to run into one of them. It would be so good if we could protect kids until they developed the adult skills to look hate in the eye and say "I belong here just as much as you do. Your ancestors wanted me here so much they dragged my ancestors here in chains."
Of course, she and her family are likely a lot more polite than I am.
Iggo
(47,558 posts)maddiemom
(5,106 posts)Warpy
(111,282 posts)but anyone who isn't in danger of being assaulted can feel free to use it.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)Warpy
(111,282 posts)What I keep hoping for is that enough of them catch a clue or kick the bucket that the few left will learn to keep their traps shut, at least in public.
Sadly, bigots of all types will always be with us. It might be a survival skill for people being invaded and colonized but once one is no longer under that kind of threat, it's just plain counterproductive.
Not to mention infuriating.
jtuck004
(15,882 posts)folks had FDR's pic on the wall, may or may not have Jesus. They knew damn well who saved them.
Their children, then parents, my neighbors as far as one could see, showed up at the high school they threw me in, back in 1971. They incited their kids to violence, beating and stoning the black kids who had shown up on buses. The kids had to retreat to the DQ across the street and the police and fire rescued them. Went on for a few days, the hate went on up until I took off in the Spring of the next year to join the Navy, and presumably after.
Back then we actively intervened in people's awareness, and there was some measurable progress, but the trend toward individualism of the past 40 years or so has killed that. Such things, and their funding, have fallen out of favor. I guess people think racism and hate will just cure themselves, but left alone most cancers spread. Hate does that too.
It's amazing what we have thrown away, and are throwing away, as human resources. I don't know if we will last that much longer as a nation, but maybe that's not so bad.
Pagan_Engineer
(2 posts)I am a child of the the 50s and 60s deep south. The first time that I ever really got to know diversity was when I joined the Navy and went to Boot Camp. The only color allowed was recruit. We had to operate as a team to get through and graduate. I value that experience and think that if we had a national policy of service, not just the military, for all people when they reach 18 then maybe we could have some hope for the future. Otherwise, I don't know how we counter the hate that this young women experienced. These toxic people will just pass it on to their children and grandchildren.
mythology
(9,527 posts)It's easy to feel like we haven't but even 20 years ago we wouldn't have elected someone like Obama. 20 years ago a guys like Corey Booker, Tom Perez and Julian Castro wouldn't be plausible VP selections.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)Recording it and making it public is fighting.
In_The_Wind
(72,300 posts)Exilednight
(9,359 posts)irisblue
(32,982 posts)NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)If it were accurate we would know them by name in total. They are the exact opposite of what you say in my opinion. They are overall cowards who hate it when their words are shared outside of their hate filled little groups.
kacekwl
(7,017 posts)This is how they speak to each other . In a Trump / Fox world they are heroes.
geardaddy
(24,931 posts)And it's smart fighting.
whatthehey
(3,660 posts)but this sort of spontaneous open abuse seems a tad staged.
I've lived in some of the whitest, Wonder Bread commercial areas in the country. From literally the last exit south of Canada in rural NY to the tonier suburbs of St Paul to outside Lincoln NE where the only young black men in evidence generally play for the Huskers (slight exaggeration, but not by much.) Places far less cosmopolitan or diverse than San Antonio, and even in those places anyone that got that exercised about seeing a random black face would soon be either arrested, put firmly in their place, or die of a heart attack from apoplexy. San Antonio may not have the black pop. ratio of Baltimore, but come on, how unliklely is it that this gooberess is all that shocked and horrified to come across black people in a Church's in a city that's 7% or so black?
People will be assholes unfortunately, regardless of why they decide to unleash a given strain of assholery.
ETA - while neither wealth class nor vernacular class are 100% hereditary, I'd be surprised if her ancestors came from the level of either that formed the elite strata of society where slave owners were the norm...
Hoppy
(3,595 posts)On the black side, "I'm gonna wipe your ass on the floor."
If not staged, why isn't management asking all of them to leave?
spanone
(135,846 posts)using that ignorant woman's logic, white people don't belong in america either....dumbfucks
MADem
(135,425 posts)always does.
I'll bet those assholes' ancestors didn't "own" a pot to piss in, or a window to throw it out of.
If I had to guess, I'd say that genetic code has a long string of non-achievers and failures in it, culminating in the remarkable, recorded "achievement" of this latest generation of mouth-breathing morons.
Like I said--can't fix stupid.
Is that a "couple" though? Looks more like a father with his juvenile delinquent daughter. That young white woman has some major issues and some real hatred in her heart.
JustAnotherGen
(31,828 posts)Or like they come from the land owning class in America . . . shouldn't it be mint juleps at the country club on a Sunday after golf - instead of a fast food joint?
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)...don't ya know? It's like when any white person does research into their ancestors and finds they were related to royalty. The fantasy of such racists is that their ancestors were plantation owners like in "Gone with the Wind." Though a tad beaten after that whole confederate flag brouhaha, the plantation romance of the old south is not, alas, dead. Not yet.
MadCrow
(155 posts)In my studying my family tree I had my DNA tested at Ancestry.com . My paternal ancestors came from the West Indies and many of the matches listed in the results had African ancestry. When I researched further back I found that my 4th great- grandfather had owned many slaves back in the early 1800's. I had had no idea. So the only conclusion that I could draw was that somebody back then was fooling around with the help. I went to a database of slaves registered in the Caribbean where you can see the names and descriptions of slaves who are registered as property. At least the British freed their slaves without having to resort to a Civil War and its aftermath.
Later generations in my family lost most of their wealth. My great-grandmother emigrated to the US in 1916 after she was left a widow at age 36 with 8 children and no means to support them. She went to work in NYC and was eventually able to bring all of them to the US where they settled and eventually became citizens. She was a strong woman and an inspiration.
I agree that children have to be taught to hate a particular group or religion. We should all be judged as individuals based on our character and actions.
Moonwalk
(2,322 posts)Many an African American could shoot back, "My family did, too..." as, alas, the slave owner's DNA was frequently as much a part of the family history as that of the slaves...as the book "Roots" famously attests.
HughBeaumont
(24,461 posts)The Racism isn't New, The Cameras Are.
But please, go on about how BLM is the "Hate Group" . . . .
packman
(16,296 posts)But, I was disturbed by the smile on the black girl's face - no anger, no hurt, no rage, no sense of injustice - but a lot of "I got something to post on Facebook". Too much crap going on there.
frankieallen
(583 posts)bhikkhu
(10,718 posts)I can't say I know how I would react from experience. I had my ass kicked by several kids my age in high school one time, as I just smiled reflexively when they tried to pick a fight with me for no particular reason. Hit, I smiled, I don't know why, I wasn't angry at them at all, the situation seemed absurd. Perhaps its the same kind of thing.
womanofthehills
(8,721 posts)wallyworld2
(375 posts)No hearts or minds were changed in this interaction
wallyworld2
(375 posts)end of this piece from crooks a liars makes a point that can be applied here
http://crooksandliars.com/2016/07/jim-jefferies-cautions-trump-dont-be-ahole
http://crooksandliars.com/cltv/2016/07/jim-jeffries-donald-trump#start=9DbcjIKQ|299
frankieallen
(583 posts)don't understand how this got started. Someone told someone to shutt the fuck up? All I saw was the group went over to the table, stuck a camera in there face and started calling the white people racists and verbally attacking them. Am I missing something?
Igel
(35,320 posts)Apparently the girl was upset, in a low-key way, that she was told to be respectful. And objected to being insulted, so went over with her family to pick a fight.
No, we don't see the beginning. But we can probably assume that it started not at the black family's table but between the girl and the white family, over where they were sitting.
Now, what prompted her to say they told her to be respectful? She didn't start off saying they called her names.
frankieallen
(583 posts)The drink fountain to be respectful, not the other way around, because that person was upset about something, nothing to do with the black girl I don't think.
From what I saw in the video, I don't blame the white couple for getting upset with the black family, but there racist bullshit was inexcusable. It really showed their ignorance that they couldn't have an argument without resorting to that racist crap.
wallyworld2
(375 posts)what I saw too and the racist crap was just that, crap and inexcusable.
joshcryer
(62,276 posts)So that was a fight waiting to happen. My guess is one or the other was in someone's way. Young girl goes back to get her mom, escalated from there.
The irony is if these idiotic racists kept their mouth shut they'd come out looking better.
hamsterjill
(15,222 posts)In what I see here, I see no innocent parties.
I felt like something might have occurred between the girl and the white family when the girl was away from her family's table. She came back to the table and relayed to her mother what had happened. Then the mother of the black family went over. That's my impression, but it's really not factually supported by the video.
In no way do I condone EITHER side here. This could have escalated to a much more dangerous level very quickly if other patrons of the restaurant had decided to become involved. I would hope that the management of the restaurant had already been on the phone to police when they saw this happening. I know if I'd been in the restaurant at that time, I would have felt very threatened because of the actions of both sides.
I live in San Antonio, too, and I've never heard of a Chester's Chicken. We have Chester's Hamburgers. I assume that's a simple misprint.
Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,501 posts)Skittles
(153,169 posts)Moostache
(9,897 posts)That is simply the transcript of Fox News after you translate it from the 21st century Whitespeak they and their ilk use.
Substitute "n***er" with "Thug" and you are halfway home...throw in some Palinese and substitute "owned your ass" with "farce" and you're almost done...finish off with a switch from "monkeys" to the more frequently used "gang members" and that would be a wrap.
The really hard thing is getting these people to see what they look like when espousing their out-of-touch rants.
R. Daneel Olivaw
(12,606 posts)Take em to court.
philosslayer
(3,076 posts)They should be prosecuted. And jailed.
Calista241
(5,586 posts)FairWinds
(1,717 posts)around 20% of Africans in the US prior to the Civil War were free.
Today, millions of African Americans are descended from people who
were never slaves.
On the other hand, almost every person of European heritage in the US
is descended from people who were at one time the property of others -
i.e., serfs.
And the word "slave" itself is derived from "Slav" (people) because the
Vikings kidnapped them by the many thousands and sold them - mostly
around the Mediterranean.
The word "slave" originally had nothing to do with Africa or African people.
WinkyDink
(51,311 posts)But hey---Why not just post that we're all descended from Lucy?
FairWinds
(1,717 posts)do y'all find it necessary to distort what I wrote?
You might want to do some reading . .
maybe start with Henry Lewis Gates.
http://www.pbs.org/wnet/african-americans-many-rivers-to-cross/history/free-blacks-lived-in-the-north-right/
Even in the pre-civil war south, there were hundreds of
thousands of free blacks.
kwassa
(23,340 posts)All Africans Americans are descended from slaves. Whites were never slaves in America.
other major errors:
1) Serfdom is not slavery, it is closer to the more modern phenomenon of sharecropping, another abuse heaped upon black Americans.
2) Serfdom started disappearing in Western Europe in the 1300s, and only affected those in rural settings, not urban dwellers at all. To say all whites are descended from serfs is simply false. NONE of the early immigrants to the US were refugees from serfdom.
Doodley
(9,095 posts)IronLionZion
(45,463 posts)I'm not even sure that would be offensive since many of motherlands of white people tend to have Democratic Socialism and seem like good places to live.
Haters gonna hate. For those who still don't get it. Do you like being associated with these idiots? Racism is all about someone somewhere might have done something someone doesn't like, so you're going to suffer for it because you look like that person. It sucks. You look like Donald Trump, so you must be just like Donald Trump. That level of nonsense is endured by many of us every damn day.
blueseas
(11,575 posts)Cameras don't lie.
Person 2713
(3,263 posts)believe it. Insane
auntpurl
(4,311 posts)were told to go back where they came from. Obviously there's no comparison to the racism faced by AA's, but yes, immigrants have always been victims of xenophobia.
Else You Are Mad
(3,040 posts)Is wrong with people?
yuiyoshida
(41,833 posts)face this on a daily basis. I love living in the bay area..where people do seem to respect one another.
zonkers
(5,865 posts)Small Accumulates
(149 posts)As if that made them grander, more entitled than they actually already are. In fact, that would make them lower, lesser in the eyes of moral human beings.
classof56
(5,376 posts)Totally disgusting might be the only appropriate response. I have family in San Antonio. I'm aware they are really Right-Wing anti-Obama types, but Lord, I hope they would not engage in this kind of ugly destructive rhetoric. Haven't heard from them in awhile. Breaks my heart that this might be their mindset, them being good catholics and all.
Sigh...sometimes I just wanta give up!
sheshe2
(83,793 posts)Good to see you, classof56.
classof56
(5,376 posts)I've been off the grid for awhile, now back on and love it when you post. Thanks for this--lifts my spirit! And hugs back atcha!
sheshe2
(83,793 posts)I have not been here much myself. Issues. Trying to deal.
classof56
(5,376 posts)I've been dealing with issues, as well, compounded by the awful, sinking feeling regarding the election. Keep reminding myself to Keep the Faith, as we used to say back in the 60s. Your hugs help, lemme tell ya!
Blessings!
alfredo
(60,074 posts)Downtown Hound
(12,618 posts)Perhaps your lazy-ass, deadbeat, entitled, and spoiled ancestors should have gotten off their pathetic asses and done their own work instead of bringing them over to America in chains to do it for them.
Just a thought.
trotsky
(49,533 posts)You see, slavery in the US only happened because OTHER Africans betrayed their own people and sold them into slavery. A kernel of truth, but exaggerated in the standard right-wing way to "neutralize" (in their minds) the reality of slavery. The right-wing racists have created this bullshit alternate reading of history to justify their hatred.
Skittles
(153,169 posts)it's OK for me to BUY a human being, as long as someone is willing to SELL me a human being
trotsky
(49,533 posts)Liberal Veteran
(22,239 posts)Going from slaveholders to bigots in 200 years isn't exactly an accomplishment to brag about.
SkyDaddy7
(6,045 posts)I'm so glad the African American women stuck up for themselves but I cringe for their safety at the same time. Plus, getting into a public shouting match with redneck racist is NEVER A GOOD THING.
Craig234
(335 posts)You don't fight those people because violence is the wrong response.
Tell the store manager about their actions and have them thrown out.
Speak back to them that they're idiots and bigots.
Call the police if you feel it's appropriate about their harassing you.
But the reason not to use violence isn't that you get arrested, but that it's the wrong response - just as they are wrong.
allan01
(1,950 posts)i cant stand stupidity for stupidity sake , i cant stand fear for fears sake , and i am seeing them together right now , and it is scarry
Coolest Ranger
(2,034 posts)I have no hope or faith in the Human race. I can't tell you how many times in my life I've been called the n word. and I want to lash out so bad against the person who called me that but I had to just swallow my pride and walk away because i can't fight worth a damn.
Doodley
(9,095 posts)I see young people who are more outspoken than ever about racism, about sexism, about social injustice, and the environment. This is the future. Yes, there are many who have had racism drummed into them and aren't smart enough or mature enough to see that is wrong, but they are a minority. Trump is only at around 25% among young voters.
cstanleytech
(26,299 posts)bunch of racist assholes?
Rex
(65,616 posts)could be from it! We have disgusting birthers all around this area, they have the collective IQ of a carrot.
bluestateguy
(44,173 posts)Seriously, disenfranchise the racist, redneck hayseeds.
No voting allowed for racists.
wallyworld2
(375 posts)People of good will not voting is the problem
We outnumber the haters by a huge percentage and we are not voting
Calculating
(2,955 posts)And the most disturbing fact is people like her are allowed to breed and raise more racists into the world.
anigbrowl
(13,889 posts)Spitfire of ATJ
(32,723 posts)Joe Chi Minh
(15,229 posts)owning the ancestors of the OP and her friends, because literally several million African Americans are known to be descended from William the Conqueror, would certainly have owned ancestors of those whites in the chicken restaurant as serfs.
Gabi Hayes
(28,795 posts)so happy that she got it recorded
Lance Bass esquire
(671 posts)their country back.
griloco
(832 posts)TNNurse
(6,927 posts)never owned anything except rundown trailers.
niyad
(113,411 posts)or indentured servants.
niyad
(113,411 posts)though, that such a thing actually happening would not surprise any of us these days. the hatred and ignorance is out there for all to see, no longer feeling the need to hide under the very thin veneer of social acceptability.
MrScorpio
(73,631 posts)The only thing that we are allowed to do is raise general awareness... And we're barely allowed to do that.
The only people who can put white supremacy and anti-black bias to an end are white peoples themselves. Although we're the targets of oppression, this has always been a problem by, for and of the white majority and it won't go away until the white majority fixes it.
alcibiades_mystery
(36,437 posts)Gaslighting racist trash.
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IgelJames4
(50 posts)I don't know how I would have reacted to that kind of awful abuse. Frankly, just reading that made my blood boil. It's a pity I have to live in the same country as these racist idiots, argh.
malthaussen
(17,205 posts)... Cornerback Mel Blount tells Roy: "Your granddaddy probably owned my granddaddy." Whereupon Roy comes back with "My granddaddy was dirt poor and didn't own anything."
-- Mal
NoMoreRepugs
(9,436 posts)Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)from the same side that claims there is no racism in America, and anyone who claims there is is a racist.
They're on the attack, screaming and crying about how they're under attack.
gregcrawford
(2,382 posts)... who will likely whelp more inbred mental defectives just like her. These people disgust me.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)and he/she is us................