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kpete

(71,996 posts)
Sat Jul 16, 2016, 10:21 AM Jul 2016

Trump drained Christie of all dignity & filled space with a raked carcass of dignity loss.

Trump drained Christie of all dignity and filled the space he once occupied with a raked carcass of dignity loss.


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.........Coming into the orbit of Mr Trump, taking his yoke as it were, requires not only total submission, a total relaxation of every muscle and defense but a farewell to all independence and dignity.

Lasciate ogni speranza, voi ch'entrate ...

Look at Chris Christie, a once strong-arming figure now reduced to being the iconic symbol of a shudder-inducing, oddly voluntary and seemingly perpetual cycle of abject humiliation. In addition to all the 'hostage Christie' memes we saw over recent months, Trump forces made sure to tell numerous reporters that as recently as Thursday night - last night - Christie was literally pitching himself to Trump on the phone, again begging to be picked for Veep even after the decision for Pence had apparently already been made. As recently as Friday morning, according to the Times, Christie still thought he was still in the running. It seems quite likely Christie only finally learned his fate from Trump's twitter. As the Times put it with some understatement in a separate article dedicated entirely to Christie's public humiliation, "Mr. Trump appeared to relish poking fun at his effusive booster."

It is a genuine mystery what sort of hold Trump was able to take over Christie. But it seems to have been total. Like a vampire, Trump drained Christie of all dignity and filled the space he once occupied with a raked carcass of dignity loss.

Newt Gingrich didn't do quite as badly. But it was close. According to the Times Gingrich confirmed by email that he still hadn't heard from Trump about his final decision, only minutes before Trump tweeted it to almost 10 million followers around the world. The pattern was the same, a deepening cycle of greater submission and more abject humiliations.

And now we have Mike Pence.


http://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/dominance-and-humiliation-no-middle-ground
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Trump drained Christie of all dignity & filled space with a raked carcass of dignity loss. (Original Post) kpete Jul 2016 OP
This vignette reminds me of Christie DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2016 #1
I really think Christie thought he was Trump's pick watching some of the latest interviews with RKP5637 Jul 2016 #2
Waiting for the other shoe to drop no_hypocrisy Jul 2016 #3
Christie had visions of elevating his national profile to new heights by oasis Jul 2016 #21
The best thing that could happen now, every public appearance, people just point at him and laugh. Hoppy Jul 2016 #4
Play with fire, you get burned! imanamerican63 Jul 2016 #5
i don't think christie had any dignity to drain. spanone Jul 2016 #6
Couldn't have happened lillypaddle Jul 2016 #7
Interesting write up on the psychology involved... Wounded Bear Jul 2016 #8
Christie sacrificed his dignity, his manhood, and his ... 11 Bravo Jul 2016 #9
Christie is the classic bully PatSeg Jul 2016 #10
carcass = dead animal. dead people = corpse nt msongs Jul 2016 #11
"dead animal" describes Christie well appal_jack Jul 2016 #13
What part of "balancing the ticket" does he not understand? rocktivity Jul 2016 #12
Christie will be given an important job ThoughtCriminal Jul 2016 #14
Sympathy for Christie? Not a chance. (nt) Paladin Jul 2016 #15
Completely despised among myself and my Jersey friends. OhZone Jul 2016 #16
I do hope you're familiar with the DU Christime Crime Digest rocktivity Jul 2016 #17
Oh I am now! THANKS! nt OhZone Jul 2016 #22
Beautiful malaise Jul 2016 #18
He's such a blustering shmuck, it's complete karmic justice. Warren DeMontague Jul 2016 #19
Christie has pretty much been demoted to toilet cleaner. Vinca Jul 2016 #20
Jawdropping article at link. Appalling and terrifying. My gods what a psychopath Trump is. Hekate Jul 2016 #23

RKP5637

(67,110 posts)
2. I really think Christie thought he was Trump's pick watching some of the latest interviews with
Sat Jul 16, 2016, 10:23 AM
Jul 2016

him before Pence slithered out.

no_hypocrisy

(46,117 posts)
3. Waiting for the other shoe to drop
Sat Jul 16, 2016, 10:47 AM
Jul 2016

Chris Christie is still on the menu for RNC Convention as a speaker.

Unless Trump has promised not to do another fake-out on Christie (like promise him the AG job and then give it to someone else) and Christie relies on that promise, the speech will be lackluster and bland. After all, Christie's lost it all and the RNC speech could be his farewell to the troops.

oasis

(49,389 posts)
21. Christie had visions of elevating his national profile to new heights by
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 05:33 PM
Jul 2016

stumping for Trump. Book deals and countless interviews lie in the horizon. Smart guy that he is, Christie knows Trump's chances of actually winning are a long shot, so he likely views the AG spot as pie in the sky.

 

Hoppy

(3,595 posts)
4. The best thing that could happen now, every public appearance, people just point at him and laugh.
Sat Jul 16, 2016, 10:55 AM
Jul 2016

Nelson would be the inspiration.


He won't be able to control his response. There will be melt-downs the likes of which you can't imagine.

imanamerican63

(13,798 posts)
5. Play with fire, you get burned!
Sat Jul 16, 2016, 10:59 AM
Jul 2016

He has no one else to blame! He was one of the first to jump on the wacky train & should have known he was being used by Trump!

Wounded Bear

(58,662 posts)
8. Interesting write up on the psychology involved...
Sat Jul 16, 2016, 11:47 AM
Jul 2016

Pretty much as I see it. It's all about alpha male status with these guys. It's like a fucking Mafia family business to them.

11 Bravo

(23,926 posts)
9. Christie sacrificed his dignity, his manhood, and his ...
Sat Jul 16, 2016, 12:09 PM
Jul 2016

political credibility.
On the bright side, he was able to score all of Trump's leftover fries and Chicken McNuggets.

PatSeg

(47,496 posts)
10. Christie is the classic bully
Sat Jul 16, 2016, 12:25 PM
Jul 2016

Bullying a school teacher on his own turf and cowering behind a bigger bully when it serves his ambitions.

Meanwhile, Trump could be getting revenge for Christie's aggressive prosecution of Ivanka's father-in-law.

 

appal_jack

(3,813 posts)
13. "dead animal" describes Christie well
Sat Jul 16, 2016, 01:51 PM
Jul 2016

Christie never had dignity to lose. Yes, he once projected strength (no drained & wasted), but never dignity in the slightest.

-app

rocktivity

(44,576 posts)
12. What part of "balancing the ticket" does he not understand?
Sat Jul 16, 2016, 01:16 PM
Jul 2016

Last edited Sun Jul 17, 2016, 04:07 PM - Edit history (1)

Trump needed a running mate seen as the opposite of being a egotistical, short-tempered, inarticulate, bullying vulgarian. Joe Biden supplied the older-and-wiser image and foreign policy chops Obama lacked; Edwards supplied the appeal to non-Northeasterners and women that Kerry lacked. THAT'S how it's supposed to work, Donald!

For that reason alone, Christie should have known he'd reached the beginning of the end when Trump put him on the VP list (especially if it's true that Newt Gingrich was the other runner up), and that he could kiss a major Trump administration position goodbye as well (the federal charges against his mentor and one of his commissioners notwithstanding). Aside from that, would the town of Washington DC under President Trump have been big enough for the two of them?


rocktivity

OhZone

(3,212 posts)
16. Completely despised among myself and my Jersey friends.
Sat Jul 16, 2016, 04:48 PM
Jul 2016

And delicious to watch is pathetic fall, especially with so many of his friends getting hammered over Bridgegate!

Warren DeMontague

(80,708 posts)
19. He's such a blustering shmuck, it's complete karmic justice.
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 05:07 PM
Jul 2016

Just 4 months ago he was blubbering and huffing and puffing about how excited he was to rush into legal marijuana states and start rounding up pot smokers.

Bully.

Vinca

(50,276 posts)
20. Christie has pretty much been demoted to toilet cleaner.
Sun Jul 17, 2016, 05:16 PM
Jul 2016

He doesn't even get to stand behind Trump in hostage videos anymore. Karma.

Hekate

(90,714 posts)
23. Jawdropping article at link. Appalling and terrifying. My gods what a psychopath Trump is.
Mon Jul 18, 2016, 04:21 AM
Jul 2016

Does he like to tear the wings off flies, too?

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